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Inquiry about running AI Suite 3 on an i5 4690K within an Asus Z97M-Plus using Corsair PC-10700 (XMP 1600)

Inquiry about running AI Suite 3 on an i5 4690K within an Asus Z97M-Plus using Corsair PC-10700 (XMP 1600)

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deth31
Junior Member
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05-10-2020, 08:42 PM
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I'm using AI Suite 3 to optimize my PC before installing a new Windows 10 version. It increased my 4690k from 3.5GHz to 4.5Ghz. After the fresh Windows 10 setup, it only reached 3.9Ghz with auto settings. I adjusted the BCLK from 100MHz to 125MHz, which brought it up to 4.5Ghz and increased my RAM to 2000MHz instead of 1600MHz, but the timings changed from 9.0, 9, 9, 24, 208 to 11, 13, 13, 35, 260. Is this a noticeable change? My alternative is keeping BCLK at 100 and increasing the ratio from 39 to 45, but that caused a BSOD once I reached around 41 or 42. I'm unsure why AI Suite 3 can't bring me back to 4.5Ghz after the fresh install.
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deth31
05-10-2020, 08:42 PM #1

I'm using AI Suite 3 to optimize my PC before installing a new Windows 10 version. It increased my 4690k from 3.5GHz to 4.5Ghz. After the fresh Windows 10 setup, it only reached 3.9Ghz with auto settings. I adjusted the BCLK from 100MHz to 125MHz, which brought it up to 4.5Ghz and increased my RAM to 2000MHz instead of 1600MHz, but the timings changed from 9.0, 9, 9, 24, 208 to 11, 13, 13, 35, 260. Is this a noticeable change? My alternative is keeping BCLK at 100 and increasing the ratio from 39 to 45, but that caused a BSOD once I reached around 41 or 42. I'm unsure why AI Suite 3 can't bring me back to 4.5Ghz after the fresh install.

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kungfutyla
Posting Freak
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05-10-2020, 10:01 PM
#2
You might only need to adjust the performance settings in Windows. If memory bandwidth is important, you'll see a boost but latency will increase slightly. I don't suggest using AI tools at all, as they usually require excessive power. Your memory seems capable of fast operation, so consider resetting the BIOS to defaults and following a straightforward overclocking guide such as the ones provided: http://www.overclock.net/forum/5-intel-c...stics.html or
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kungfutyla
05-10-2020, 10:01 PM #2

You might only need to adjust the performance settings in Windows. If memory bandwidth is important, you'll see a boost but latency will increase slightly. I don't suggest using AI tools at all, as they usually require excessive power. Your memory seems capable of fast operation, so consider resetting the BIOS to defaults and following a straightforward overclocking guide such as the ones provided: http://www.overclock.net/forum/5-intel-c...stics.html or

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SarahFina
Member
51
05-11-2020, 12:15 PM
#3
You likely only need to adjust the performance settings in Windows. If memory bandwidth is important, you'll see a boost but latency may increase slightly. I don't suggest using an AI suite at all, as it usually requires excessive voltage. Your memory seems capable of fast operation, so consider resetting the BIOS to defaults and following a straightforward overclocking guide such as the ones provided: http://www.overclock.net/forum/5-intel-c...stics.html or
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SarahFina
05-11-2020, 12:15 PM #3

You likely only need to adjust the performance settings in Windows. If memory bandwidth is important, you'll see a boost but latency may increase slightly. I don't suggest using an AI suite at all, as it usually requires excessive voltage. Your memory seems capable of fast operation, so consider resetting the BIOS to defaults and following a straightforward overclocking guide such as the ones provided: http://www.overclock.net/forum/5-intel-c...stics.html or

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wazzupman17
Member
160
05-13-2020, 02:59 AM
#4
I've instructed AI Suite 3 to keep the voltage stable. Honestly, since I'm not used to frequently adjusting voltage levels, it gives me some concern.
I'll review the available guides.
Could you clarify which option offers better performance—higher DDR3 speed with more latency or lower speed with quicker latency?
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wazzupman17
05-13-2020, 02:59 AM #4

I've instructed AI Suite 3 to keep the voltage stable. Honestly, since I'm not used to frequently adjusting voltage levels, it gives me some concern.
I'll review the available guides.
Could you clarify which option offers better performance—higher DDR3 speed with more latency or lower speed with quicker latency?

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Stab3_
Junior Member
16
05-13-2020, 05:04 AM
#5
It might be possible to adjust the settings slightly, but it seems either way is fine for gaming. A bit then some of the lower-end models. I think I would probably overclock it correctly, then check if I can achieve 1866 with more sensible timings.
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Stab3_
05-13-2020, 05:04 AM #5

It might be possible to adjust the settings slightly, but it seems either way is fine for gaming. A bit then some of the lower-end models. I think I would probably overclock it correctly, then check if I can achieve 1866 with more sensible timings.

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mgib
Junior Member
15
05-13-2020, 04:41 PM
#6
Sure, just to confirm, you're asking whether the correct method is using the BIOS AI Tweaker feature from Asus or handling it manually.
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mgib
05-13-2020, 04:41 PM #6

Sure, just to confirm, you're asking whether the correct method is using the BIOS AI Tweaker feature from Asus or handling it manually.

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FuWenZhanShen
Junior Member
4
05-14-2020, 04:14 PM
#7
You can experiment with the AI Tweaker and then evaluate its results compared to the overclocking guides. These tools aim for broad compatibility and success, not the perfect settings for your particular CPU. They are improving, with many newer motherboards offering profile presets that came close to expectations for my 7th generation chip. At that time, I still needed to adjust the CPU for stability, though it provided a solid understanding of the required voltage. I never used any of the onboard tools on my z87 board, sticking to traditional methods.
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FuWenZhanShen
05-14-2020, 04:14 PM #7

You can experiment with the AI Tweaker and then evaluate its results compared to the overclocking guides. These tools aim for broad compatibility and success, not the perfect settings for your particular CPU. They are improving, with many newer motherboards offering profile presets that came close to expectations for my 7th generation chip. At that time, I still needed to adjust the CPU for stability, though it provided a solid understanding of the required voltage. I never used any of the onboard tools on my z87 board, sticking to traditional methods.

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Atayack
Member
144
05-19-2020, 05:40 AM
#8
I first reset AI Suite 3 to its default settings, restarted it, and then removed it completely. Next, I accessed the BIOS and implemented these adjustments. I'm trying to make my machine as standard as possible.
You can view the modifications here: https://ibb.co/f2T2Bn
Am I prepared to begin? lol
Correction: I removed all of AI Suite 3 except the USB 3.0 Boost.
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Atayack
05-19-2020, 05:40 AM #8

I first reset AI Suite 3 to its default settings, restarted it, and then removed it completely. Next, I accessed the BIOS and implemented these adjustments. I'm trying to make my machine as standard as possible.
You can view the modifications here: https://ibb.co/f2T2Bn
Am I prepared to begin? lol
Correction: I removed all of AI Suite 3 except the USB 3.0 Boost.

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05-19-2020, 07:09 AM
#9
I would begin by resetting the BIOS myself. As long as the outcome avoids overheating and excessive voltage, it should work well.
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LupusGladiator
05-19-2020, 07:09 AM #9

I would begin by resetting the BIOS myself. As long as the outcome avoids overheating and excessive voltage, it should work well.