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Incorporating more memory capacity

Incorporating more memory capacity

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Noxder_oJ
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09-13-2020, 09:29 PM
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Hello everyone, my setup currently includes a G.Skill Flare X5 with 32GB RAM at 6000MHz CL32. I'm planning to add another 32GB and haven't found a UK supplier with the exact model in stock. My main concern is whether I can use a different brand as long as it matches the speed and timing specifications. Also, I have a quick note for Mobo regarding this.
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Noxder_oJ
09-13-2020, 09:29 PM #1

Hello everyone, my setup currently includes a G.Skill Flare X5 with 32GB RAM at 6000MHz CL32. I'm planning to add another 32GB and haven't found a UK supplier with the exact model in stock. My main concern is whether I can use a different brand as long as it matches the speed and timing specifications. Also, I have a quick note for Mobo regarding this.

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Excalinma
Junior Member
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09-14-2020, 03:34 AM
#2
AMD only rates their memory controller for DDR5-3600 with four sticks, so even with identical equipment we can't guarantee the outcome. It's likely EXPO/XMP won't work on the first boot and you'll need some manual adjustments. When combining different brands, try to use matching memory modules.
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Excalinma
09-14-2020, 03:34 AM #2

AMD only rates their memory controller for DDR5-3600 with four sticks, so even with identical equipment we can't guarantee the outcome. It's likely EXPO/XMP won't work on the first boot and you'll need some manual adjustments. When combining different brands, try to use matching memory modules.

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samnicholas34
Member
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09-21-2020, 04:44 PM
#3
Identical schedules could mean the same NAND chip, but I’d avoid the reliability problems with a 4x16GB package given how fragile the RAM is on AM5. I’d consider purchasing a 2x32GB unit or check if you’re willing to trade in your existing one.
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samnicholas34
09-21-2020, 04:44 PM #3

Identical schedules could mean the same NAND chip, but I’d avoid the reliability problems with a 4x16GB package given how fragile the RAM is on AM5. I’d consider purchasing a 2x32GB unit or check if you’re willing to trade in your existing one.

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09-21-2020, 07:29 PM
#4
The X670e PG Lightning board is said to accommodate up to 192GB RAM with a 4 stick setup, reaching speeds of 7200. Please confirm if this interpretation is correct.
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VibrationArrow
09-21-2020, 07:29 PM #4

The X670e PG Lightning board is said to accommodate up to 192GB RAM with a 4 stick setup, reaching speeds of 7200. Please confirm if this interpretation is correct.

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Ignorance69
Junior Member
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09-22-2020, 02:05 AM
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It doesn't mean you're guaranteed to run 192GB of RAM @ 7200. It means the board supports up to 192GB (4x48GB) and up to 7200 (as an overclock). In their small print they say it is subject to the QVL (which isn't a guarantee either, see buildzoids video here ) and there's no memory on the QVL (that I can see) above 6200/6400 that has more than 2 sticks tested. This is an example from MSI of how the board's rating varies on number of sticks and the capacity: Before AMD released the AGESA that supported higher speeds, it was pretty normal to use speeds lower than 6200/6400 for Ryzen 7000. This is an old (and now outdated) video on the topic: The memory controller is on the CPU and the massive DDR5 de-rates * that Intel and AMD specify for their CPUs is pretty much saying "4 sticks? You're on your own buddy". I think it is likely (from the recent experiences of other users) that if the sticks are compatible/stable running together then you'll be able to match, or get near to the rated speed of your memory with 4x16GB, but "out of the box" one-click XMP/EXPO is very unlikely. If you'll need to loosen the timings/up the DRAM voltage, or other tweaks, I can't say. * Your CPU's spec page here :
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Ignorance69
09-22-2020, 02:05 AM #5

It doesn't mean you're guaranteed to run 192GB of RAM @ 7200. It means the board supports up to 192GB (4x48GB) and up to 7200 (as an overclock). In their small print they say it is subject to the QVL (which isn't a guarantee either, see buildzoids video here ) and there's no memory on the QVL (that I can see) above 6200/6400 that has more than 2 sticks tested. This is an example from MSI of how the board's rating varies on number of sticks and the capacity: Before AMD released the AGESA that supported higher speeds, it was pretty normal to use speeds lower than 6200/6400 for Ryzen 7000. This is an old (and now outdated) video on the topic: The memory controller is on the CPU and the massive DDR5 de-rates * that Intel and AMD specify for their CPUs is pretty much saying "4 sticks? You're on your own buddy". I think it is likely (from the recent experiences of other users) that if the sticks are compatible/stable running together then you'll be able to match, or get near to the rated speed of your memory with 4x16GB, but "out of the box" one-click XMP/EXPO is very unlikely. If you'll need to loosen the timings/up the DRAM voltage, or other tweaks, I can't say. * Your CPU's spec page here :

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PinkGamer888
Junior Member
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09-23-2020, 01:05 AM
#6
Thanks for the feedback. It seems you'd prefer two 32GB sticks over additional 16GB kits.
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PinkGamer888
09-23-2020, 01:05 AM #6

Thanks for the feedback. It seems you'd prefer two 32GB sticks over additional 16GB kits.

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_q4
Junior Member
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10-07-2020, 03:41 PM
#7
I just put this kit in an Asus X670E-E with a 7800X3D CPU and it functions perfectly on EXPO II settings. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Xg2W...32gx2-tz5n Update your BIOS too.
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_q4
10-07-2020, 03:41 PM #7

I just put this kit in an Asus X670E-E with a 7800X3D CPU and it functions perfectly on EXPO II settings. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Xg2W...32gx2-tz5n Update your BIOS too.

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Playered_401
Member
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10-08-2020, 08:54 PM
#8
Your bios are current. I'll review it once more before you finalize the kit.
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Playered_401
10-08-2020, 08:54 PM #8

Your bios are current. I'll review it once more before you finalize the kit.