F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop I'm just getting started and would appreciate some guidance on upgrading.

I'm just getting started and would appreciate some guidance on upgrading.

I'm just getting started and would appreciate some guidance on upgrading.

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DarkTiger427
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06-27-2023, 08:27 AM
#11
Consider revisiting the 1600 again.
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DarkTiger427
06-27-2023, 08:27 AM #11

Consider revisiting the 1600 again.

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Nightwolf_C
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07-16-2023, 02:08 PM
#12
From what you're describing, it seems CPU overclocking isn't a top concern for you. Intel boards support XMP settings, and RAM speed is fixed, which isn't a major issue compared to AMD chips. The Ryzen 5 1600AF offers similar performance to the i5-10400F at around 75% of gaming power, so pushing it won't significantly boost results.
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Nightwolf_C
07-16-2023, 02:08 PM #12

From what you're describing, it seems CPU overclocking isn't a top concern for you. Intel boards support XMP settings, and RAM speed is fixed, which isn't a major issue compared to AMD chips. The Ryzen 5 1600AF offers similar performance to the i5-10400F at around 75% of gaming power, so pushing it won't significantly boost results.

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Ryant0404
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07-16-2023, 09:13 PM
#13
people share alike opinions and the cost stays consistent. What’s left is deciding which stands out.
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Ryant0404
07-16-2023, 09:13 PM #13

people share alike opinions and the cost stays consistent. What’s left is deciding which stands out.

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CeceloGamer
Junior Member
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07-23-2023, 04:01 PM
#14
Gather the information and aim for a solid average board. Ryzen options also work similarly. I’m not really familiar with Intel, but some of their processors offer better value compared to Ryzen as observed. I hope someone more experienced can recommend a decent, budget-friendly setup. It might not be ideal, but lacking features like overclocking could be a concern, particularly with Intel.
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CeceloGamer
07-23-2023, 04:01 PM #14

Gather the information and aim for a solid average board. Ryzen options also work similarly. I’m not really familiar with Intel, but some of their processors offer better value compared to Ryzen as observed. I hope someone more experienced can recommend a decent, budget-friendly setup. It might not be ideal, but lacking features like overclocking could be a concern, particularly with Intel.

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butter_moon
Junior Member
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07-23-2023, 05:13 PM
#15
Visit YouTube to see Hardward Unboxed's motherboard reviews and comparisons. He likely covered budget Intel boards as well. It’s possible he reviewed cheaper options, but a solid cooler and chip boost can deliver most of the gains from overclocking. The first CPU that supports overclocking is the i5-10600K, usually priced near £200. To handle extra heat, you’d need a Z-series board and a better cooler, pushing the cost to around £375—about double the original price. It won’t double performance, just improve it.
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butter_moon
07-23-2023, 05:13 PM #15

Visit YouTube to see Hardward Unboxed's motherboard reviews and comparisons. He likely covered budget Intel boards as well. It’s possible he reviewed cheaper options, but a solid cooler and chip boost can deliver most of the gains from overclocking. The first CPU that supports overclocking is the i5-10600K, usually priced near £200. To handle extra heat, you’d need a Z-series board and a better cooler, pushing the cost to around £375—about double the original price. It won’t double performance, just improve it.

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Ayella
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07-25-2023, 04:01 AM
#16
It makes sense, choosing a board without overclocking features is ideal. These factors really complicate finding the perfect motherboard.
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Ayella
07-25-2023, 04:01 AM #16

It makes sense, choosing a board without overclocking features is ideal. These factors really complicate finding the perfect motherboard.

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Frinex10
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08-15-2023, 10:10 PM
#17
If OP wants to push performance further, it still restricts your capabilities. A big exaggeration. Another overstatement. I’m part of the competitive overclocking community—the boosted multipliers you achieve are far superior to the clock speeds you get with boost settings. The 4.3GHz maximum boost from the 10400F is minimal; on unlocked boards, you can easily reach 5GHz with a solid motherboard and cooling. With unlocked multipliers, the possibilities expand dramatically, pushing clocks even higher. OP should seriously evaluate these options—B450 supports Zen 3, offering up to 16 cores, making it ideal for gaming and future upgrades.
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Frinex10
08-15-2023, 10:10 PM #17

If OP wants to push performance further, it still restricts your capabilities. A big exaggeration. Another overstatement. I’m part of the competitive overclocking community—the boosted multipliers you achieve are far superior to the clock speeds you get with boost settings. The 4.3GHz maximum boost from the 10400F is minimal; on unlocked boards, you can easily reach 5GHz with a solid motherboard and cooling. With unlocked multipliers, the possibilities expand dramatically, pushing clocks even higher. OP should seriously evaluate these options—B450 supports Zen 3, offering up to 16 cores, making it ideal for gaming and future upgrades.

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speednitro11
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08-18-2023, 04:00 AM
#18
Most users avoid overclocking. Intel's CPUs aren't reliant on RAM speed. If it weren't capped, you might notice minor gains—just a few percent—depending on the game. Only marginally. The Ryzen 5 2600 (similar to 1600af) runs about 15-20% slower than the 3600. The 3600 underperforms compared to the i5-10400f, so I guess around 25% slower. You'll likely only surpass 4GHz on a 1600af if lucky. Ryzen gains little from overclocking because they typically boost more than you can all-core tune. The cheapest Intel (10th gen or newer) CPU hitting 5GHz is the 10600k, and if you prioritize cooling and board over CPU cost, upgrade to a better one.
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speednitro11
08-18-2023, 04:00 AM #18

Most users avoid overclocking. Intel's CPUs aren't reliant on RAM speed. If it weren't capped, you might notice minor gains—just a few percent—depending on the game. Only marginally. The Ryzen 5 2600 (similar to 1600af) runs about 15-20% slower than the 3600. The 3600 underperforms compared to the i5-10400f, so I guess around 25% slower. You'll likely only surpass 4GHz on a 1600af if lucky. Ryzen gains little from overclocking because they typically boost more than you can all-core tune. The cheapest Intel (10th gen or newer) CPU hitting 5GHz is the 10600k, and if you prioritize cooling and board over CPU cost, upgrade to a better one.

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Blazerx13
Junior Member
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08-18-2023, 05:46 AM
#19
I understand - the Ryzen offers more adaptability here, even if the user doesn't fully utilize its features. Upgrading with the unlocked multiplier in the Ryzen compensates for the 10400f's limitations, but you can't exceed the Intel's fixed maximum with its locked configuration. What you receive out of the box is what you get, nothing more. Still, I agree on one thing: the 1600 chip is solid, but the OP could improve. A 2600 would be a better choice than the 1600 and also supports higher RAM speeds compared to the 1600, especially on suitable boards. For instance, my X2700 with DDR4 3200s reaches around 3333 on the X470 Tachi Ultimate, whereas on the X570 MEG ACE it can exceed 3800 with the same settings. I recommend considering a 2600 if possible instead of a 1600.
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Blazerx13
08-18-2023, 05:46 AM #19

I understand - the Ryzen offers more adaptability here, even if the user doesn't fully utilize its features. Upgrading with the unlocked multiplier in the Ryzen compensates for the 10400f's limitations, but you can't exceed the Intel's fixed maximum with its locked configuration. What you receive out of the box is what you get, nothing more. Still, I agree on one thing: the 1600 chip is solid, but the OP could improve. A 2600 would be a better choice than the 1600 and also supports higher RAM speeds compared to the 1600, especially on suitable boards. For instance, my X2700 with DDR4 3200s reaches around 3333 on the X470 Tachi Ultimate, whereas on the X570 MEG ACE it can exceed 3800 with the same settings. I recommend considering a 2600 if possible instead of a 1600.

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coolgamer33
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08-18-2023, 07:55 AM
#20
Overclocking offers enhanced speed. RAM speed and timing influence CPU performance. Relying solely on benchmarks isn't fair. Different designs vary in clock rates. Ryzen delivers more instructions per clock while running slower speeds compared to Intel. The 1600 AF reaches 3.4GHz; pushing it to 4GHz provides a notable performance increase, especially with advanced cooling. This applies only to Zen 2 and later models. The 1600 AF is a Zen+ variant, maintaining similar boosting characteristics as its predecessors. It's achievable within a budget, though not for Intel processors.
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coolgamer33
08-18-2023, 07:55 AM #20

Overclocking offers enhanced speed. RAM speed and timing influence CPU performance. Relying solely on benchmarks isn't fair. Different designs vary in clock rates. Ryzen delivers more instructions per clock while running slower speeds compared to Intel. The 1600 AF reaches 3.4GHz; pushing it to 4GHz provides a notable performance increase, especially with advanced cooling. This applies only to Zen 2 and later models. The 1600 AF is a Zen+ variant, maintaining similar boosting characteristics as its predecessors. It's achievable within a budget, though not for Intel processors.

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