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I'm experiencing the Kernel 41 error, but I'm confident it isn't connected to my power supply unit.

I'm experiencing the Kernel 41 error, but I'm confident it isn't connected to my power supply unit.

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MistyStars
Junior Member
29
08-31-2023, 02:59 PM
#1
Hey everyone,
I have a curious problem I’m trying to figure out.
First, here’s my setup:
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor
$744.22
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CPU Cooler
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Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler
No PricesAvailable
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Motherboard
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$356.99
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MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
$356.99
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Memory
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$409.99
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G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory
$409.99
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Storage
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$299.99
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Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
$299.99
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Video Card
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MSI RTX 4090 GAMING X TRIO CLASSIC 24G GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card
No PricesAvailable
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MistyStars
08-31-2023, 02:59 PM #1

Hey everyone,
I have a curious problem I’m trying to figure out.
First, here’s my setup:
[/td]
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor
$744.22
[/td]
CPU Cooler
[/td]
Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler
No PricesAvailable
[/td]
[td width="1px"]
Motherboard
[/td]
$356.99
[/td]
[td]
MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
$356.99
[/td]
[td][/td]
[td width="1px"]
Memory
[/td]
$409.99
[/td]
[td]
G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory
$409.99
[/td]
[td][/td]
[td width="1px"]
Storage
[/td]
$299.99
[/td]
[td]
Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
$299.99
[/td]
[td][/td]
[td width="1px"]
Video Card
[/td]
[td]
MSI RTX 4090 GAMING X TRIO CLASSIC 24G GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card
No PricesAvailable
[/td]
[td][/td]

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Andase
Junior Member
15
08-31-2023, 07:21 PM
#2
I expanded the details about removing the drivers and updating to the newer version. Regarding the PSU, I checked its age in the current build. For the motherboard, I verified the BIOS version associated with it.
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Andase
08-31-2023, 07:21 PM #2

I expanded the details about removing the drivers and updating to the newer version. Regarding the PSU, I checked its age in the current build. For the motherboard, I verified the BIOS version associated with it.

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xXChrisPvPzXx
Member
123
09-13-2023, 05:08 PM
#3
The -41 errors just mean the PC stopped working suddenly.
"Hello, human. I turned it off and don't understand the reason. Please help."
The real issue might be something else. It doesn't necessarily point to the PSU.
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xXChrisPvPzXx
09-13-2023, 05:08 PM #3

The -41 errors just mean the PC stopped working suddenly.
"Hello, human. I turned it off and don't understand the reason. Please help."
The real issue might be something else. It doesn't necessarily point to the PSU.

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hammy488
Member
125
09-13-2023, 06:19 PM
#4
I removed the driver from the uninstall app folder and then reinstalled the previous version. The PSU is two years old, and I obtained it during my build. I think it's not the latest model, but I updated recently. People keep saying it's your PSU, even ChatGPT, so that makes sense. It could be anything. I used to be the heat before, now I think it's a software issue.
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hammy488
09-13-2023, 06:19 PM #4

I removed the driver from the uninstall app folder and then reinstalled the previous version. The PSU is two years old, and I obtained it during my build. I think it's not the latest model, but I updated recently. People keep saying it's your PSU, even ChatGPT, so that makes sense. It could be anything. I used to be the heat before, now I think it's a software issue.

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onezeny
Member
186
09-13-2023, 09:51 PM
#5
I removed the driver from the location where you uninstall apps and other programs.
Use DDU in Safe Mode to delete all GPU drivers (Intel, AMD, Nvidia), then restart and install the newest driver from Nvidia's support site using an elevated command—Right-click the installer and select Run as Administrator.
I think it isn't the latest version, but I updated a few months ago.
For clarity, we should confirm the BIOS version.
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onezeny
09-13-2023, 09:51 PM #5

I removed the driver from the location where you uninstall apps and other programs.
Use DDU in Safe Mode to delete all GPU drivers (Intel, AMD, Nvidia), then restart and install the newest driver from Nvidia's support site using an elevated command—Right-click the installer and select Run as Administrator.
I think it isn't the latest version, but I updated a few months ago.
For clarity, we should confirm the BIOS version.

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Queffect
Member
219
09-13-2023, 10:49 PM
#6
I own an air-cooled 7950X paired with a Noctua NH-D15. During extended coding sessions, some CPU cores reach +95°C and remain in the mid-eighties. I identified crashes linked to Nvidia GPU current spikes that triggered OCP on my old ATX12 Gen2.x TX850M PSU. Upgrading to a new MSI A1000G Gen3.x PSU resolved the issue. The problem isn’t related to the 7950X overheating with an air cooler.

Upgrading to a more powerful AIO could enable my 7950X to run at slightly higher frequencies until thermal throttling resumes. I’m not sure if the original issue stemmed from the air cooler.

Modern CPUs push performance to the limit unless BIOS settings restrict it. Switching from air to liquid cooling usually helps a bit, but shouldn’t noticeably change peak temperatures during intense stress tests.

This is likely where our differences lie. I use Nvidia’s Studio drivers, which are reportedly more stable than their gaming versions.

I discovered a solution for my GPU issues while using the TX850M by running MSI Afterburner and setting max GPU power to 95%. It cut GPU dissipation by 10W from its maximum and stabilized the system. It might be worth experimenting with this approach.
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Queffect
09-13-2023, 10:49 PM #6

I own an air-cooled 7950X paired with a Noctua NH-D15. During extended coding sessions, some CPU cores reach +95°C and remain in the mid-eighties. I identified crashes linked to Nvidia GPU current spikes that triggered OCP on my old ATX12 Gen2.x TX850M PSU. Upgrading to a new MSI A1000G Gen3.x PSU resolved the issue. The problem isn’t related to the 7950X overheating with an air cooler.

Upgrading to a more powerful AIO could enable my 7950X to run at slightly higher frequencies until thermal throttling resumes. I’m not sure if the original issue stemmed from the air cooler.

Modern CPUs push performance to the limit unless BIOS settings restrict it. Switching from air to liquid cooling usually helps a bit, but shouldn’t noticeably change peak temperatures during intense stress tests.

This is likely where our differences lie. I use Nvidia’s Studio drivers, which are reportedly more stable than their gaming versions.

I discovered a solution for my GPU issues while using the TX850M by running MSI Afterburner and setting max GPU power to 95%. It cut GPU dissipation by 10W from its maximum and stabilized the system. It might be worth experimenting with this approach.

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Barnesy28
Junior Member
47
09-14-2023, 02:16 AM
#7
It's 14.03.2025
SMBIOS: 3.7
Appreciate the response. I experienced crashes daily until I added the water cooler; it stopped completely after about 4-5 months, never once. Temperatures have dropped a lot—80 to 65s...
I’m considering trying this and hadn’t thought about it before. Would using this driver cause any performance problems in games?
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Barnesy28
09-14-2023, 02:16 AM #7

It's 14.03.2025
SMBIOS: 3.7
Appreciate the response. I experienced crashes daily until I added the water cooler; it stopped completely after about 4-5 months, never once. Temperatures have dropped a lot—80 to 65s...
I’m considering trying this and hadn’t thought about it before. Would using this driver cause any performance problems in games?

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macitom
Member
170
09-20-2023, 11:50 AM
#8
Afterburner functions as a utility rather than a driver. Restricting the GPU maximum power in Afterburner could slightly reduce your FPS score. This is minor if the game remains playable and the PC doesn’t crash.

Regarding the Nvidia Studio driver, compatibility issues may arise with certain games. It seems Nvidial frequently updates the Game driver, which might conflict with the Studio driver. Since they can't test all hardware-software combinations, such conflicts could occur on your system.
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macitom
09-20-2023, 11:50 AM #8

Afterburner functions as a utility rather than a driver. Restricting the GPU maximum power in Afterburner could slightly reduce your FPS score. This is minor if the game remains playable and the PC doesn’t crash.

Regarding the Nvidia Studio driver, compatibility issues may arise with certain games. It seems Nvidial frequently updates the Game driver, which might conflict with the Studio driver. Since they can't test all hardware-software combinations, such conflicts could occur on your system.

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vboy90
Junior Member
5
09-25-2023, 09:37 AM
#9
Could you clarify if you're wondering about the BIOS or something else?
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vboy90
09-25-2023, 09:37 AM #9

Could you clarify if you're wondering about the BIOS or something else?

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DestroN42
Member
230
09-27-2023, 08:12 AM
#10
It's 14.03.2025
SMBIOS: 3.7
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-X670...FI/support
The BIOS version listed on the support page doesn't match what you're using. Are you running BIOS version 7E12v1H? If so, you have pending updates. The newest is 7E12v1K7 (Beta). Ensure your motherboard's chipset driver is up to date, then update the BIOS and reset the CMOS.
If you think the problem comes from your power supply unit, consider borrowing a well-built PSU with the same wattage to test. There was a known issue with a certain batch of RM units in the Shift and e series. It might help to notify Corsair via email as well.
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DestroN42
09-27-2023, 08:12 AM #10

It's 14.03.2025
SMBIOS: 3.7
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-X670...FI/support
The BIOS version listed on the support page doesn't match what you're using. Are you running BIOS version 7E12v1H? If so, you have pending updates. The newest is 7E12v1K7 (Beta). Ensure your motherboard's chipset driver is up to date, then update the BIOS and reset the CMOS.
If you think the problem comes from your power supply unit, consider borrowing a well-built PSU with the same wattage to test. There was a known issue with a certain batch of RM units in the Shift and e series. It might help to notify Corsair via email as well.

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