i5 6400 oc - Can they all oc?
i5 6400 oc - Can they all oc?
JebThePleb
06-20-2022, 07:24 AM #21Ms pushed some board makers to release and update bios, removing the option to use non-K chips. Even if your board has an older bios, you might still be lucky. The best choice is one of those Asrock hyper boards I mentioned earlier. Asrock doesn’t have any connection with MS, so they completely overlooked their demands. Keep in mind the major three (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte) all build prebuilt machines with Intel chips and didn’t want to cause trouble. Good that Asrock chose to ignore them and release two boards clearly aimed at overclocking locked CPUs—definitely a clear move in favor of MS.
Microcode updates are essentially fixes applied at the BIOS level that manage CPU capabilities. These updates are provided by Intel and accepted voluntarily by board manufacturers, who distribute them as BIOS revisions. They must be reinstalled each time the system boots to take effect. This is why older BIOS versions or beta releases can bypass non-K OC restrictions. Windows updates are not applicable in this context.
madmatt30 :
Someboard makers pushed for BIOS updates on their boards to eliminate the option of running non-K chips. If your board uses an outdated BIOS, you might still be able to use it.
The safest choice is one of the Asrock hyper boards I mentioned earlier. Asrock doesn’t have any connection with Microsoft and has completely disregarded their requests.
Keep in mind the major players (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte) all produce prebuilt systems with Intel chips and didn’t want to interfere.
Good job on Asrock for not following their demands and releasing boards clearly aimed at overclocking locked CPUs – that’s a clear move against Microsoft.
purplepixe
07-08-2022, 04:09 PM #22I need to learn more about Intel micro updates. I only understand that they restrict non-K CPUs from overclocking, but I'm curious about the details. How does it function? Is it a secret update similar to Windows updates? Does it modify the CPU itself or involve changes at the hardware level, such as the motherboard (e.g., EFUSE)? What methods exist to prevent this update? Are there any scripts or specific software available for handling it?
Microcode updates are essentially fixes applied at the BIOS level that manage CPU capabilities. These updates are provided by Intel and accepted voluntarily by board manufacturers, who distribute them as BIOS revisions. They must be reinstalled each time the system boots to take effect. This is why older BIOS versions or beta releases can bypass non-K OC restrictions. Windows updates are not applicable in this context.
madmatt30 :
Someboard makers pushed for BIOS updates on their boards to eliminate the option of running non-K chips. If your board uses an outdated BIOS, you might still be able to use it.
The safest choice is one of the Asrock hyper boards I mentioned earlier. Asrock doesn’t have any connection with Microsoft and has completely disregarded their requests.
Keep in mind the major players (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte) all produce prebuilt systems with Intel chips and didn’t want to interfere.
Good job on Asrock for not following their demands and releasing boards clearly aimed at overclocking locked CPUs – that’s a clear move against Microsoft.
roboocreeper
07-11-2022, 09:11 AM #24Microsoft has a significant role here, as they exert pressure on board manufacturers to modify BIOS settings, eliminating the facility for 'clean & easy' overclocking on Skylake chips. This claim is inaccurate. Source?
Right now, I'm also in germany, and I'm from a third world country as well. So my advice can get you, maybe.
I have discovered that you can get some pretty good deals if you look for 4670k or 4690k on Auktions on e-bay. You can easily secure a 4670k for €100-120, if you try on 2 or 3 Auktions and are a bit patient. That will get you a very easy to overclock chip, and the performace difference between Haswell and Skylake is really small, so you might even get better performance (haswell chips almost always get to 4.4 or 4.5GHz), without having to overclock uaing hard methods.
I strongly recommend you take a look at used haswell overclockable chips, especially bidding in Auktions. Be sure follow all the articles that might be interesting, and only bid qhen there are 30 seconds or less remaining, with your maximum price.
With this method, I lost about 10 Auktions, but won around 3, which means I got 3 parts for a GREAT price.
There are also used Mobo+CPU+Ram combos for really cheap on the auktions.
Might not be a direct answer to your question, but I can help a bit.
Right now, I'm also in germany, and I'm from a third world country as well. So my advice can get you, maybe.
I have discovered that you can get some pretty good deals if you look for 4670k or 4690k on Auktions on e-bay. You can easily secure a 4670k for €100-120, if you try on 2 or 3 Auktions and are a bit patient. That will get you a very easy to overclock chip, and the performace difference between Haswell and Skylake is really small, so you might even get better performance (haswell chips almost always get to 4.4 or 4.5GHz), without having to overclock uaing hard methods.
I strongly recommend you take a look at used haswell overclockable chips, especially bidding in Auktions. Be sure follow all the articles that might be interesting, and only bid qhen there are 30 seconds or less remaining, with your maximum price.
With this method, I lost about 10 Auktions, but won around 3, which means I got 3 parts for a GREAT price.
There are also used Mobo+CPU+Ram combos for really cheap on the auktions.