F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop I understood the value of AM4 as a top platform once I did.

I understood the value of AM4 as a top platform once I did.

I understood the value of AM4 as a top platform once I did.

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xMoshiMoshi
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05-21-2022, 05:10 AM
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In short, I've been running a Ryzen 5 2400G on a B350 board with 16GB DDR4 3200 and a 4GB RX580 for about five years. I never faced any issues, but I thought it was time to make a few changes. I swapped in a Ryzen 5 5600 and an RX6600 (both non-X), leaving everything else unchanged. Performance jumped overnight—over 100% faster in both productivity and gaming tests. This happened while using one of the less desirable chipset combinations. Honestly, I don’t recall seeing such a big boost with just a mid-range CPU and a mid/low GPU. It’s impressive how quickly things improved after just a couple upgrades over five years. Maybe similar results could be achieved in older generations if you swapped a low-end P2 for a high-speed P3 back then.
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xMoshiMoshi
05-21-2022, 05:10 AM #1

In short, I've been running a Ryzen 5 2400G on a B350 board with 16GB DDR4 3200 and a 4GB RX580 for about five years. I never faced any issues, but I thought it was time to make a few changes. I swapped in a Ryzen 5 5600 and an RX6600 (both non-X), leaving everything else unchanged. Performance jumped overnight—over 100% faster in both productivity and gaming tests. This happened while using one of the less desirable chipset combinations. Honestly, I don’t recall seeing such a big boost with just a mid-range CPU and a mid/low GPU. It’s impressive how quickly things improved after just a couple upgrades over five years. Maybe similar results could be achieved in older generations if you swapped a low-end P2 for a high-speed P3 back then.

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ChickenPhoYou
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05-26-2022, 09:35 PM
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I believe AM4 could become legendary for being one of the finest connectors ever made. It’s a bit disappointing, though, since it suggests AMD and Intel won’t offer such quality again. We should appreciate AM4 while it lasts. Great job on the upgrade! I’m hoping it brings you back another five years or more.
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ChickenPhoYou
05-26-2022, 09:35 PM #2

I believe AM4 could become legendary for being one of the finest connectors ever made. It’s a bit disappointing, though, since it suggests AMD and Intel won’t offer such quality again. We should appreciate AM4 while it lasts. Great job on the upgrade! I’m hoping it brings you back another five years or more.

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MojoPug
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05-27-2022, 12:37 AM
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AM4 stands out strongly. The 5800x3d performs well alongside the 7700x/13600k. It’s one of the top platforms I’ve seen. The 5600 also delivers great value for its cost. Still, I believe AM4 hardware will soon be surpassed by newer generations like Zen 5 and Arrow Lake. Those who expect a decade more from Am4 are probably being unrealistic. Five more years? That’s possible, but the upcoming CPUs are going to be truly exceptional.
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MojoPug
05-27-2022, 12:37 AM #3

AM4 stands out strongly. The 5800x3d performs well alongside the 7700x/13600k. It’s one of the top platforms I’ve seen. The 5600 also delivers great value for its cost. Still, I believe AM4 hardware will soon be surpassed by newer generations like Zen 5 and Arrow Lake. Those who expect a decade more from Am4 are probably being unrealistic. Five more years? That’s possible, but the upcoming CPUs are going to be truly exceptional.

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Stunflix
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05-28-2022, 01:15 PM
#4
It will resemble the 2500K performance, offering excellent results over an extended period.
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Stunflix
05-28-2022, 01:15 PM #4

It will resemble the 2500K performance, offering excellent results over an extended period.

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GewoonRomano
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05-28-2022, 06:19 PM
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AM4 represented a step back to earlier times before Super Socket 7. Back then, all CPU manufacturers used the same socket as Intel. You could fit an AMD chip into a slot that Intel wouldn’t allow a Pentium in, delivering similar performance. An AMD or Cyrix processor could be installed in a relatively new machine and provide a significant upgrade without replacing most components. It was common to replace your CPU every couple of years for a major boost. In my opinion... this approach would have been better for users, companies, and the planet. Today we often buy sealed laptops that are hard to repair once they develop even minor issues. At least in the early 2010s.
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GewoonRomano
05-28-2022, 06:19 PM #5

AM4 represented a step back to earlier times before Super Socket 7. Back then, all CPU manufacturers used the same socket as Intel. You could fit an AMD chip into a slot that Intel wouldn’t allow a Pentium in, delivering similar performance. An AMD or Cyrix processor could be installed in a relatively new machine and provide a significant upgrade without replacing most components. It was common to replace your CPU every couple of years for a major boost. In my opinion... this approach would have been better for users, companies, and the planet. Today we often buy sealed laptops that are hard to repair once they develop even minor issues. At least in the early 2010s.

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zScossa99z
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06-05-2022, 03:48 PM
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Eh. Five years? That’s fine. Ten years or more like a 2500k? Not really. I’m okay with some AM4, but Zen 5/Arrow Lake will be huge jumps in performance while core counts rise. Only about 1.5 years away or sooner. Picture a 14600k with eight cores, twenty-four threads, boosts to six 3D graphics and 30-40% better IPC. That makes Zen 4 totally outdated overnight—let alone Zen 3 or Alder Lake. The 5600/5800X3D are nice “give me a bit more time on AM4” options though. But the 2500k was actually strong for a long time. Intel got too relaxed and AMD wasn’t around to challenge it, which is why it lasted so long. With competition from Intel and Ryzen still active, the 5600 will probably be completely surpassed in every way within a few years at most.
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zScossa99z
06-05-2022, 03:48 PM #6

Eh. Five years? That’s fine. Ten years or more like a 2500k? Not really. I’m okay with some AM4, but Zen 5/Arrow Lake will be huge jumps in performance while core counts rise. Only about 1.5 years away or sooner. Picture a 14600k with eight cores, twenty-four threads, boosts to six 3D graphics and 30-40% better IPC. That makes Zen 4 totally outdated overnight—let alone Zen 3 or Alder Lake. The 5600/5800X3D are nice “give me a bit more time on AM4” options though. But the 2500k was actually strong for a long time. Intel got too relaxed and AMD wasn’t around to challenge it, which is why it lasted so long. With competition from Intel and Ryzen still active, the 5600 will probably be completely surpassed in every way within a few years at most.

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Tessia_xD
Junior Member
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06-07-2022, 02:22 PM
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yeah i kinda see why but, i think these 5000 series ryzen's will stick by for a veeeeeery long time, it is an amazing time for anyone interested in CPUs though, love to see all this competition
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Tessia_xD
06-07-2022, 02:22 PM #7

yeah i kinda see why but, i think these 5000 series ryzen's will stick by for a veeeeeery long time, it is an amazing time for anyone interested in CPUs though, love to see all this competition

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1zambos
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06-12-2022, 06:44 PM
#8
Oh yeah definitely. They will still be extremely good low end chips and will do just fine at 4k gaming or whatever. Something not super cpu intensive. High refresh 1440p/1080p? Nope. I just don't think there will ever be another 2500k again at our current rate of advancement. Arrow lake is essentially like a quadruple node shrink in 1.5 gens. It's going from Intel 7 (10nm) to intel 20a (2nm). Zen 5 will be on 3/4nm but will be a brand new arc. and they have 3d cache too. It's an AMAZING time for cpus. Golden age even, perhaps.
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1zambos
06-12-2022, 06:44 PM #8

Oh yeah definitely. They will still be extremely good low end chips and will do just fine at 4k gaming or whatever. Something not super cpu intensive. High refresh 1440p/1080p? Nope. I just don't think there will ever be another 2500k again at our current rate of advancement. Arrow lake is essentially like a quadruple node shrink in 1.5 gens. It's going from Intel 7 (10nm) to intel 20a (2nm). Zen 5 will be on 3/4nm but will be a brand new arc. and they have 3d cache too. It's an AMAZING time for cpus. Golden age even, perhaps.

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992x
Senior Member
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06-13-2022, 09:21 PM
#9
I owned that CPU from 2012 to 2019 and could play AAA games smoothly. I only needed two GPU updates (as anticipated). Just like before, it makes sense for Intel to introduce their L4 eDRAM cache—it could perform similarly to AMD's 3D cache.
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992x
06-13-2022, 09:21 PM #9

I owned that CPU from 2012 to 2019 and could play AAA games smoothly. I only needed two GPU updates (as anticipated). Just like before, it makes sense for Intel to introduce their L4 eDRAM cache—it could perform similarly to AMD's 3D cache.

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ava_v
Junior Member
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06-13-2022, 11:09 PM
#10
Those times are behind me. The 5600 launched in 2020. By 2027 Intel will release 16a (Sub 2nm) chips and Ryzen models featuring 24+ core i5s and 16+ core Ryzen 5s. Great rivalry!
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ava_v
06-13-2022, 11:09 PM #10

Those times are behind me. The 5600 launched in 2020. By 2027 Intel will release 16a (Sub 2nm) chips and Ryzen models featuring 24+ core i5s and 16+ core Ryzen 5s. Great rivalry!

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