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I believed choosing 8.1 was solid, but now I'm uncertain.

I believed choosing 8.1 was solid, but now I'm uncertain.

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koushin086
Junior Member
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12-06-2016, 01:09 AM
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Security updates for Windows 7 are coming up soon, which is why many topics about version 10 are appearing. I used to run Windows 8.1, but I stayed away from 10 because of data mining worries and Microsoft’s strong push for it. Now I’m out of the loop. Recently someone said my confidence in staying with 8.1 was wrong—it had similar issues. They just wrapped things up with complicated legal language. I don’t like feeling treated like a product, which is how corporate data mining often operates. I’m okay sharing info to help improve hardware, but I hate being watched to shape my view of the world. The change between 8.1 and 10 can be subtle and hard to notice. It might happen without you realizing it. I thought Windows 10 had this issue too, but 8.1 didn’t. 8.1 is still functional. I’m used to it, but costs will rise soon. Back in the day, it was free. I’m not very familiar with the differences between Win10 and Win 8.1—I’d just need guidance. People are busy, so if anyone can explain clearly, I’m open to listening. Things I’m unsure about: My belief that controlling Win10’s data mining was theoretically possible but practically impossible is still valid? Are there tools or apps that make it safer? Can we improve security beyond what 8.1 offered? I remember trying to get a free update, but it’s long gone or expired.
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koushin086
12-06-2016, 01:09 AM #1

Security updates for Windows 7 are coming up soon, which is why many topics about version 10 are appearing. I used to run Windows 8.1, but I stayed away from 10 because of data mining worries and Microsoft’s strong push for it. Now I’m out of the loop. Recently someone said my confidence in staying with 8.1 was wrong—it had similar issues. They just wrapped things up with complicated legal language. I don’t like feeling treated like a product, which is how corporate data mining often operates. I’m okay sharing info to help improve hardware, but I hate being watched to shape my view of the world. The change between 8.1 and 10 can be subtle and hard to notice. It might happen without you realizing it. I thought Windows 10 had this issue too, but 8.1 didn’t. 8.1 is still functional. I’m used to it, but costs will rise soon. Back in the day, it was free. I’m not very familiar with the differences between Win10 and Win 8.1—I’d just need guidance. People are busy, so if anyone can explain clearly, I’m open to listening. Things I’m unsure about: My belief that controlling Win10’s data mining was theoretically possible but practically impossible is still valid? Are there tools or apps that make it safer? Can we improve security beyond what 8.1 offered? I remember trying to get a free update, but it’s long gone or expired.

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MasMenno
Member
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12-07-2016, 09:15 PM
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There are options that can significantly improve security, such as DNS blocking through the router. Generally, Windows 10 offers stronger protection compared to Windows 8.1. Upgrading isn't completely free right now, but you might avoid activation problems. While Windows claims it's activated, this doesn't guarantee proper licensing, yet Microsoft won't audit your system. If privacy is a concern, consider operating systems designed with strong privacy in mind and that don't transmit data back to the provider. macOS also performs better than Windows, and Linux provides even greater security benefits.
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MasMenno
12-07-2016, 09:15 PM #2

There are options that can significantly improve security, such as DNS blocking through the router. Generally, Windows 10 offers stronger protection compared to Windows 8.1. Upgrading isn't completely free right now, but you might avoid activation problems. While Windows claims it's activated, this doesn't guarantee proper licensing, yet Microsoft won't audit your system. If privacy is a concern, consider operating systems designed with strong privacy in mind and that don't transmit data back to the provider. macOS also performs better than Windows, and Linux provides even greater security benefits.

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Darkeos
Senior Member
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12-13-2016, 03:14 AM
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Win 10 is available via the 8.1 key. I'm not sure about the details, but based on what I know from using Windows 7/8.1 and 10.
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Darkeos
12-13-2016, 03:14 AM #3

Win 10 is available via the 8.1 key. I'm not sure about the details, but based on what I know from using Windows 7/8.1 and 10.

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KryTechTV
Junior Member
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12-13-2016, 11:44 AM
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The alternate operating system was the initial idea before version 8.1 became outdated. I enjoy video games, especially big open-world titles. Switching to Linux with Wine isn’t without challenges and restrictions—I’d rather steer clear of those if possible. While I’m okay with Microsoft’s products, my focus is on how I actually use them. I appreciate the small sense of autonomy I still have. I once fell for a phone game that forced me to create a fake Facebook account, only to lose all my data. Later, I found myself bombarded with ads for urinary devices and yoga wear everywhere. Additionally, I began receiving scam robocalls targeting seniors, which was frustrating. Political messaging also shifted in tone, which bothered me. This is what worries me.
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KryTechTV
12-13-2016, 11:44 AM #4

The alternate operating system was the initial idea before version 8.1 became outdated. I enjoy video games, especially big open-world titles. Switching to Linux with Wine isn’t without challenges and restrictions—I’d rather steer clear of those if possible. While I’m okay with Microsoft’s products, my focus is on how I actually use them. I appreciate the small sense of autonomy I still have. I once fell for a phone game that forced me to create a fake Facebook account, only to lose all my data. Later, I found myself bombarded with ads for urinary devices and yoga wear everywhere. Additionally, I began receiving scam robocalls targeting seniors, which was frustrating. Political messaging also shifted in tone, which bothered me. This is what worries me.

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IPS10
Senior Member
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12-13-2016, 04:56 PM
#5
Not ideal because dual boot can cause conflicts and complexity, while VMs offer flexibility without needing separate hardware.
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IPS10
12-13-2016, 04:56 PM #5

Not ideal because dual boot can cause conflicts and complexity, while VMs offer flexibility without needing separate hardware.

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Darkeos
Senior Member
538
12-17-2016, 02:19 PM
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Dual boot presents similar challenges. Running a virtual machine is an alternative, though I’m uncertain if the extra resources are feasible on my end. I’ve seen it mentioned before—it seemed complex. The decision comes down to technical feasibility or cost considerations.
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Darkeos
12-17-2016, 02:19 PM #6

Dual boot presents similar challenges. Running a virtual machine is an alternative, though I’m uncertain if the extra resources are feasible on my end. I’ve seen it mentioned before—it seemed complex. The decision comes down to technical feasibility or cost considerations.

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prysskitten
Junior Member
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12-17-2016, 02:31 PM
#7
A dual boot works with the same problems because both systems share similar hardware issues. You can run typical daily tasks on Linux, OS X, or other OSes, but use Windows only for gaming. The virtual machine usually runs smoothly most of the time. What equipment are you using?
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prysskitten
12-17-2016, 02:31 PM #7

A dual boot works with the same problems because both systems share similar hardware issues. You can run typical daily tasks on Linux, OS X, or other OSes, but use Windows only for gaming. The virtual machine usually runs smoothly most of the time. What equipment are you using?

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Vichoflo
Senior Member
396
12-18-2016, 10:14 PM
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It’s an older setup—Z97 with 16GB RAM, 4770kHz clock at 4.0 GHz. The silicon didn’t survive the lottery; it’s stable at 4.1 but only about 99%. I’ve got cooling options for around 4.5, like a viperX 6 pipe and diamond paste, though it’d need voltage tweaks and some manual work. My gut says it wasn’t worth it. The GTX970 is still there, but upgrading the GPU to the 5700X on Black Friday seems risky. There are plenty of processor cycles left.
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Vichoflo
12-18-2016, 10:14 PM #8

It’s an older setup—Z97 with 16GB RAM, 4770kHz clock at 4.0 GHz. The silicon didn’t survive the lottery; it’s stable at 4.1 but only about 99%. I’ve got cooling options for around 4.5, like a viperX 6 pipe and diamond paste, though it’d need voltage tweaks and some manual work. My gut says it wasn’t worth it. The GTX970 is still there, but upgrading the GPU to the 5700X on Black Friday seems risky. There are plenty of processor cycles left.

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SlieFie333
Junior Member
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12-20-2016, 12:12 PM
#9
The setup needs to run GPU pass-through for VMs if that's what you're aiming for.
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SlieFie333
12-20-2016, 12:12 PM #9

The setup needs to run GPU pass-through for VMs if that's what you're aiming for.

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carlobolla
Member
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12-22-2016, 03:54 AM
#10
Linux offers a solid choice for gaming. It’s simpler to set up, especially on Arch Linux. But if you need the newest updates, anti-cheat tools, or strict DRM protection, Linux might lag behind by a year or more. For top performance, Windows 10 remains the best. A KVM with GPU pass-through works, though you’ll need extra GPU power and may sacrifice some CPU resources, which can impact gameplay depending on the title. Windows 7 and 8 keys still support Windows 10, but I think a fresh install is safer. In terms of data usage, Windows 10 and 8.1 are similar, so you can control it with firewall rules at network or router level.
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carlobolla
12-22-2016, 03:54 AM #10

Linux offers a solid choice for gaming. It’s simpler to set up, especially on Arch Linux. But if you need the newest updates, anti-cheat tools, or strict DRM protection, Linux might lag behind by a year or more. For top performance, Windows 10 remains the best. A KVM with GPU pass-through works, though you’ll need extra GPU power and may sacrifice some CPU resources, which can impact gameplay depending on the title. Windows 7 and 8 keys still support Windows 10, but I think a fresh install is safer. In terms of data usage, Windows 10 and 8.1 are similar, so you can control it with firewall rules at network or router level.

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