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I attempted to upgrade my PSU and GPU simultaneously, but the power button is unresponsive.

I attempted to upgrade my PSU and GPU simultaneously, but the power button is unresponsive.

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DBaker527
Junior Member
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05-11-2021, 08:49 AM
#1
Hello there, it's been a long time since I've shared here.
In short, I was planning to upgrade from a 3060 and 650w PSU to an RX9070XT and an 850w PSU. I attempted the changes at the same time.
With the 850w connected, I have the 8 pin CPU, 24 pin motherboard, and 8x3 pin PCIe in the 9070. Pressing the power button or shorting the power pins didn't make a difference.
Later, I reinserted the old 650w into the 8 pin CPU and 24 pin motherboard, connected the fan power to the SATA/PATA, and shorted the power—this started the fans! I'm not sure if it's been posted yet, but that's not crucial right now.
Where might I have made a mistake? It's been about 4-5 years since I last tried an upgrade.
Edit: The new PSU is fully modular, while the old 650w was only partially modular with the 8pin CPU and 24pin motherboard being hard wired. I've connected the fan molexes to the SATA/PATA part of the modular unit.
The old PSU is a Corsair CX650M, and the new 850w is a Corsair RM850X.
Please let me know if there are any other details that could help.
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DBaker527
05-11-2021, 08:49 AM #1

Hello there, it's been a long time since I've shared here.
In short, I was planning to upgrade from a 3060 and 650w PSU to an RX9070XT and an 850w PSU. I attempted the changes at the same time.
With the 850w connected, I have the 8 pin CPU, 24 pin motherboard, and 8x3 pin PCIe in the 9070. Pressing the power button or shorting the power pins didn't make a difference.
Later, I reinserted the old 650w into the 8 pin CPU and 24 pin motherboard, connected the fan power to the SATA/PATA, and shorted the power—this started the fans! I'm not sure if it's been posted yet, but that's not crucial right now.
Where might I have made a mistake? It's been about 4-5 years since I last tried an upgrade.
Edit: The new PSU is fully modular, while the old 650w was only partially modular with the 8pin CPU and 24pin motherboard being hard wired. I've connected the fan molexes to the SATA/PATA part of the modular unit.
The old PSU is a Corsair CX650M, and the new 850w is a Corsair RM850X.
Please let me know if there are any other details that could help.

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Azastias
Member
223
05-11-2021, 09:30 AM
#2
Did you utilize every connector from the new power supply or tried to repurpose any of the previous ones? I'm checking since mixing connectors might cause problems.
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Azastias
05-11-2021, 09:30 AM #2

Did you utilize every connector from the new power supply or tried to repurpose any of the previous ones? I'm checking since mixing connectors might cause problems.

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elliottrg
Member
70
05-11-2021, 11:30 AM
#3
I used every new connector from the box. After checking, I tried connecting the 8pin CPU and 24pin motherboard to the old PSU and it worked. When I switched all the power connections to the new PSU, it didn’t start. Thanks for your help!
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elliottrg
05-11-2021, 11:30 AM #3

I used every new connector from the box. After checking, I tried connecting the 8pin CPU and 24pin motherboard to the old PSU and it worked. When I switched all the power connections to the new PSU, it didn’t start. Thanks for your help!

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Shad0wHydra13
Senior Member
716
05-13-2021, 05:19 AM
#4
i'm beginning to suspect i just received a faulty power supply unit since it starts up each time i short with the previous one but not with the new one.
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Shad0wHydra13
05-13-2021, 05:19 AM #4

i'm beginning to suspect i just received a faulty power supply unit since it starts up each time i short with the previous one but not with the new one.

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Wikingknight
Junior Member
4
05-13-2021, 05:55 AM
#5
Is your setup using an outdated setup? Corsair removed the -12V pin from the 24-pin connector in newer power supplies, which might lead to problems if you're connecting it to older devices.
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Wikingknight
05-13-2021, 05:55 AM #5

Is your setup using an outdated setup? Corsair removed the -12V pin from the 24-pin connector in newer power supplies, which might lead to problems if you're connecting it to older devices.

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Nitro_PT
Member
182
06-03-2021, 12:07 PM
#6
Interesting question... Your MSI Z590-Pro seems up-to-date, though I might be mistaken
Edit: If you need more specifics, just say so—I'm a bit of an old-school guy!
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Nitro_PT
06-03-2021, 12:07 PM #6

Interesting question... Your MSI Z590-Pro seems up-to-date, though I might be mistaken
Edit: If you need more specifics, just say so—I'm a bit of an old-school guy!

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MooMoo2011
Senior Member
690
06-03-2021, 01:49 PM
#7
It's possible the issue lies with your setup, as it isn't old but predates the new ATX spec that made it optional. I understand your point about the PSU being the main concern, though replacing it might not solve the problem entirely. You may want to verify if your model lacks the -12V pin (second pin top row from left with the clip facing up) and consider purchasing a different brand PSU, as Corsair seems to be the only one mentioned for removal on mainstream models.
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MooMoo2011
06-03-2021, 01:49 PM #7

It's possible the issue lies with your setup, as it isn't old but predates the new ATX spec that made it optional. I understand your point about the PSU being the main concern, though replacing it might not solve the problem entirely. You may want to verify if your model lacks the -12V pin (second pin top row from left with the clip facing up) and consider purchasing a different brand PSU, as Corsair seems to be the only one mentioned for removal on mainstream models.

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Ruubiee17
Senior Member
572
06-03-2021, 06:06 PM
#8
I no longer purchase Corsair PSUs since they removed -12V support. When upgrading a 2021 TX850M, I opted for an MSI A1000G that offered genuine -12V compatibility. It's wiser to be cautious. Saving a bit on each PSU has cost me my preference, though it's not a major issue for me. I'm only one user, but I no longer automatically suggest Corsair to others because it's hard to confirm if a motherboard requires -12V.

I understand that -12V isn't required in ATX 3.x systems, which explains Corsair's push to limit sales and save on parts. A more sustainable approach would be better, but some PCs still face compatibility problems.

I could revisit Corsair if they provide a clear list of incompatible models on their site that don’t work with their products. The challenge is that this might deter potential buyers and reduce sales.

Over the years, I've assembled at least ten PCs using Corsair components and have swapped PSUs between systems. Given the compatibility concerns, it's time to explore another brand. Goodbye, Corsair.
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Ruubiee17
06-03-2021, 06:06 PM #8

I no longer purchase Corsair PSUs since they removed -12V support. When upgrading a 2021 TX850M, I opted for an MSI A1000G that offered genuine -12V compatibility. It's wiser to be cautious. Saving a bit on each PSU has cost me my preference, though it's not a major issue for me. I'm only one user, but I no longer automatically suggest Corsair to others because it's hard to confirm if a motherboard requires -12V.

I understand that -12V isn't required in ATX 3.x systems, which explains Corsair's push to limit sales and save on parts. A more sustainable approach would be better, but some PCs still face compatibility problems.

I could revisit Corsair if they provide a clear list of incompatible models on their site that don’t work with their products. The challenge is that this might deter potential buyers and reduce sales.

Over the years, I've assembled at least ten PCs using Corsair components and have swapped PSUs between systems. Given the compatibility concerns, it's time to explore another brand. Goodbye, Corsair.

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Da_Shadows
Member
185
06-04-2021, 11:36 PM
#9
Great ideas, thanks a lot! I’ll look into compatibility and consider swapping this rm850 for a Stryker model if necessary. Your suggestions are really helpful!
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Da_Shadows
06-04-2021, 11:36 PM #9

Great ideas, thanks a lot! I’ll look into compatibility and consider swapping this rm850 for a Stryker model if necessary. Your suggestions are really helpful!

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Bonnibel
Posting Freak
794
06-05-2021, 12:51 AM
#10
I got a Thermaltake 850 PSU and it functions perfectly. You all are amazing hardware experts. Thank you so much!
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Bonnibel
06-05-2021, 12:51 AM #10

I got a Thermaltake 850 PSU and it functions perfectly. You all are amazing hardware experts. Thank you so much!