How to upgrade my PC for music production?
How to upgrade my PC for music production?
It's a bit of a joke, isn't it? The i5 3570K was released over ten years ago as a third-generation Intel chip, and service work stopped in 2019. The i5 13600K is still not even on the radar. You're using the wording incorrectly quite a lot. The B760 and z790 boards are still very up-to-date if you're purchasing Intel products. It's hard to say anything new has arrived yet, as those generations remain current.
In what reality would a product be considered dead just because a successor is coming soon? Should we discard our 2022 E-class machines simply because Mercedes is launching a new 2024 model? No, I can't support that view. The LGA1700 remains a solid consumer CPU generation from Intel. While there won't be any new CPUs for that socket, all other components—from memory to SSDs, GPUs, etc.—will continue to be compatible and functional.
The latest z790 motherboards were released just last month or a few months back. They're still in production. If you're saying they're dead, it's only if they're no longer available on the market and sales have stopped, with a new generation arriving instead. You could call it dead in Q4 this year at most, but that's your interpretation.
Even 12th generation + z690 builds are perfectly fine. In some cases, they're even better because z690 boards have become more affordable without sacrificing quality. DDR4 is also a more cost-effective option for larger builds, and it offers lower latency.
DDR4 isn't dead at all—it's been replaced. So I can't agree with the way this is being presented.
AM4, AM5, and LGA1700 are all still viable options. AM5 is the only one expected to have new CPUs and motherboards in the future. That could be an advantage, but most users won't upgrade their boards because that's essentially a core upgrade.
CPUs can still be upgraded for those who don't buy i9 13900K or 14900K models. Unless someone is planning a build that needs to last two to three years, they have the freedom to choose something other than AM5. Try to challenge that idea.
I did not say that people have to swap to current gen parts cuz a product is EoL. But you have to understand that what EoL means - no future product updates.
You are trying to side track the point by saying that SSDs and other pc parts are compatible with 14th gen. You and i both know thats not what i meant.
There is a difference between EoL and discontinued. Win 7 is discontinued, no more product support. Security updates.
similar to this: Intel 11th gen is discontinued. and LGA 1700 is EoL.
You can see the marketing status here:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...11...0-ghz.html
I am not back tracking on what i said, OP can use the 14600 for 10 years if it suits him. I am just pointing out the facts.
I've never had a cross word with you before and i hope never to have one. I respect you and your opinions and advice and suggestions.
What really irked me was you declaring the current Intel lineup, which is as modern as it gets, as dead. Dead means useless, buried, do not buy. That's dead.
You
used
the word"dead" in a different way.
9/10/11 gen intels are not advisable except for upgrades and if parts are cheap. But parts are usually not cheap, and it's usually better to switch to 12/13/14 gen. (or Ryzen)
8th gen and older is basically still up to the task but buying an 8th gen CPU or PC is almost certainly a mistake.
But the same cannot be said of the 12/13/14th gens. It's current. It will be outgoing soon and soon it will be better to wait and see what the next gen has to offer. But there may be early wrinkles to iron out etc etc.
I think you know and understand this. Because the argument isn't about this.
It's about what you mean by dead or EoL. It's not officially EoL. Some Alder motherbaord may be, but the whole of LGA1700 is neither EoL and certainly is not dead.
And product updates depend on what you mean. BIOSes will be updated. Motherboard revisions may come out. New CPUs will certainly not appear. Is that enough for you to declare "no future product updates"?
Please be clear when you say these things and when you use definitive language to advise others. Being up to date with computer hardware is a priviledge and it's great to be able to share it and help steer people away from garbage and suspicious vendors.
I felt you've been misleading with the way you've used EoL and "dead" product/socket, unintentionally.
The Intel sheet you linked says discontinued. That means production ended and it's no longer sold new except for old stock.
Look at this one:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...-3...0-ghz.html
That's the 3570K, 12 years old. Discontinued AND End of servicing lifetime. That is dead.
Of course i don't expect you to pretend the 9600K is alive and a viable product. It isn't and i would not advise anyone to build a PC using it.
Here is the current 13600K:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...36...0-ghz.html
"Launched" is all it says. But
you
declared EoL and no preoduct updates. Untrue, and you must be more clear with your language.
This is my gripe with what you said. Nothing else.
Again, I believe we are focusing on different aspects here. And fine, I won’t refer to EoL there, but it’s clear that this model won’t be compatible with the next generation Intel CPUs, unlike the AM5 version. As someone who enjoys building PCs, I’d say it’s reaching its end of life. From a typical consumer view, yes, you’ll get some BIOS and security updates for a few more years. But for the upcoming hardware upgrades, you’d need to replace both the motherboard and the CPU. The B650 AM5 boards can run CPUs that will be available until 2027, which is at least two more generations of Ryzen chips. Would this impact you? Absolutely. That’s why I chose the 7800X3D and B650. Would that matter to you or the person asking? I can’t say.
I just thought that the PSU is OK, since it is not from no name company, but from antec. I understand that is the entry level but I couldn't find sources that say this PSU is bad. If I will buy a more power consuming PSU I will also upgrade the PSU.
Actually for the 14600 I can get a new one with the same price as the amd
Nevertheless I think I will to the new AMD launch to make a better decision
Power supply units don't wear out physically, though their internal components do. They tend to lose effectiveness chemically over time. The typical warranty period is under five years. Premium models usually come with 10 or 12-year guarantees. These options are pricier but offer greater longevity and more consistent power output over an extended lifespan.
Yes, I wouldn't upgrade unless I also replaced the PSU. It's a budget-built, regulated unit aimed at the entry-level segment. I wouldn't recommend it for any PC with a GPU needing extra power.