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How much performance gain is possible using the built-in cooler?

How much performance gain is possible using the built-in cooler?

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Oka_ruto64
Junior Member
34
09-01-2016, 10:00 PM
#1
So here's my build
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ItsJohnny/saved/tkBNnQ
I was wondering, how much could I overclock the CPU with just the stock cooler? I'm on a really tight budget and I really really don't want to add more money at the moment (possibly later). Thank you
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Oka_ruto64
09-01-2016, 10:00 PM #1

So here's my build
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ItsJohnny/saved/tkBNnQ
I was wondering, how much could I overclock the CPU with just the stock cooler? I'm on a really tight budget and I really really don't want to add more money at the moment (possibly later). Thank you

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CD_Bish
Junior Member
30
09-09-2016, 07:13 PM
#2
Using the stock or lower-end third-party cooler will cause you to reach the temperature limit quickly, well before hitting the voltage limit. Numerous stress tests, like OCCT, will stop running if temperatures rise above 85°C.
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CD_Bish
09-09-2016, 07:13 PM #2

Using the stock or lower-end third-party cooler will cause you to reach the temperature limit quickly, well before hitting the voltage limit. Numerous stress tests, like OCCT, will stop running if temperatures rise above 85°C.

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Vladmirr
Member
51
09-15-2016, 10:59 AM
#3
It varies. Each chip will generate different temperatures during overclocking. Possibly 100mhz with the standard cooler. They seem not built for any kind of overclocking.
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Vladmirr
09-15-2016, 10:59 AM #3

It varies. Each chip will generate different temperatures during overclocking. Possibly 100mhz with the standard cooler. They seem not built for any kind of overclocking.

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Sebluigi
Senior Member
727
09-15-2016, 11:14 PM
#4
It depends, as there are many variables that can affect the clock speeds you can achieve with the stock cooler. However, because the G3258 is a dual core and runs on the fairly efficient Haswell architecture and only has a TDP of 53W, I'd reckon you can push it to somewhere around 3.5, as you're not using a Z97 board and your PSU doesn't have a very high efficiency rating. Again, many factors do come into play, eg. environment temperature, case airflow, the overclockability of the actual chip you own (whether you've won the silicon lottery) etc. so do take note of that.
Hope this helps and good luck,
Ryan
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Sebluigi
09-15-2016, 11:14 PM #4

It depends, as there are many variables that can affect the clock speeds you can achieve with the stock cooler. However, because the G3258 is a dual core and runs on the fairly efficient Haswell architecture and only has a TDP of 53W, I'd reckon you can push it to somewhere around 3.5, as you're not using a Z97 board and your PSU doesn't have a very high efficiency rating. Again, many factors do come into play, eg. environment temperature, case airflow, the overclockability of the actual chip you own (whether you've won the silicon lottery) etc. so do take note of that.
Hope this helps and good luck,
Ryan

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Ariielle
Member
63
09-16-2016, 04:06 AM
#5
It relies on your board. If it supports the right overclocking level, it can run from 4.0Ghz to 4.4Ghz for safety.
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Ariielle
09-16-2016, 04:06 AM #5

It relies on your board. If it supports the right overclocking level, it can run from 4.0Ghz to 4.4Ghz for safety.

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mark100
Member
69
09-28-2016, 02:01 PM
#6
Stock coolers are tailored to specific wattage categories. A 53w CPU should use a cooler meant for 60w, while a 105w CPU requires a cooler for 120w, and so on. These few units accommodate various CPUs; the 80w cooler fits both a 74w and a 77w CPU.

However, the TDP listed isn't the maximum. It represents the typical high-wattage usage during normal heavy loads, which is why applications like p95, IBT, and Aida64 can push temperatures significantly higher. This is why overclocking should avoid stock coolers—standard coolers are built for lower peak loads, and exceeding their limits can cause temperatures to spike rapidly.

Generally, overclocking stock coolers isn't recommended. A modest 100-200MHz increase is unlikely to cause issues, but moving the CPU from 3.2GHz to 4.0 GHz or higher can quickly trigger thermal shutdown.
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mark100
09-28-2016, 02:01 PM #6

Stock coolers are tailored to specific wattage categories. A 53w CPU should use a cooler meant for 60w, while a 105w CPU requires a cooler for 120w, and so on. These few units accommodate various CPUs; the 80w cooler fits both a 74w and a 77w CPU.

However, the TDP listed isn't the maximum. It represents the typical high-wattage usage during normal heavy loads, which is why applications like p95, IBT, and Aida64 can push temperatures significantly higher. This is why overclocking should avoid stock coolers—standard coolers are built for lower peak loads, and exceeding their limits can cause temperatures to spike rapidly.

Generally, overclocking stock coolers isn't recommended. A modest 100-200MHz increase is unlikely to cause issues, but moving the CPU from 3.2GHz to 4.0 GHz or higher can quickly trigger thermal shutdown.

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3Edge
Senior Member
718
09-28-2016, 05:43 PM
#7
I'm not sure how to respond to you all. I accidentally downvoted Ryan while trying to say sorry, but I appreciate the help. Still, what impact would adding a cooler have?
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3Edge
09-28-2016, 05:43 PM #7

I'm not sure how to respond to you all. I accidentally downvoted Ryan while trying to say sorry, but I appreciate the help. Still, what impact would adding a cooler have?

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Athame_
Senior Member
734
09-28-2016, 06:53 PM
#8
Using a quality aftermarket cooler means you'll be more constrained by voltage and CPU options than temperature. A solid CPU cooler leaves the maximum performance uncertain. A poor CPU cooler won't offer much improvement over the standard one.
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Athame_
09-28-2016, 06:53 PM #8

Using a quality aftermarket cooler means you'll be more constrained by voltage and CPU options than temperature. A solid CPU cooler leaves the maximum performance uncertain. A poor CPU cooler won't offer much improvement over the standard one.

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levoyageur92
Posting Freak
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10-15-2016, 12:51 PM
#9
Using the stock or lower-end third-party cooler will cause you to reach the temperature limit quickly, well before hitting the voltage limit. Numerous stress tests, like OCCT, will stop running if temperatures rise above 85°C.
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levoyageur92
10-15-2016, 12:51 PM #9

Using the stock or lower-end third-party cooler will cause you to reach the temperature limit quickly, well before hitting the voltage limit. Numerous stress tests, like OCCT, will stop running if temperatures rise above 85°C.

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BenjaminCechak
Junior Member
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10-17-2016, 03:41 AM
#10
OC is a pastime, not a must-have. Therefore, any hobby will require some expense at some point. A mobile device suited for the OC you desire, along with components like a CPU, RAM, GPU, cooler, and water cooling, all come at a higher price than their non-OC versions. The real question isn't whether you can extract an OC from what you already own, but rather what steps are needed to achieve this OC properly.
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BenjaminCechak
10-17-2016, 03:41 AM #10

OC is a pastime, not a must-have. Therefore, any hobby will require some expense at some point. A mobile device suited for the OC you desire, along with components like a CPU, RAM, GPU, cooler, and water cooling, all come at a higher price than their non-OC versions. The real question isn't whether you can extract an OC from what you already own, but rather what steps are needed to achieve this OC properly.