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Home POE, methods and tips How to use and what to avoid

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ScoopyDo
Junior Member
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11-16-2023, 08:26 PM
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you're dealing with a lot of technical details here. let's break it down simply.

what you want is to set up a poe system using a switch that supports poe, and replace your current cabling. since most devices don't support poe out of the box, you'll need a switch with built-in poe capability.

here’s what you should consider:
- **switch**: look for one that explicitly lists poe support (like 2x deco m5).
- **poe splitter**: choose a splitter that matches your power requirements (12v, 1.2a for switch, etc.).
- **cables & adapters**: use the right cables and adapters to connect your devices.
- **poe splitter specs**: check for compatibility with your existing gear—especially the chromecast, tradfrig, and pc.

your confusion is normal—poe can be tricky. keep asking questions and double-check each component before connecting anything.
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ScoopyDo
11-16-2023, 08:26 PM #1

you're dealing with a lot of technical details here. let's break it down simply.

what you want is to set up a poe system using a switch that supports poe, and replace your current cabling. since most devices don't support poe out of the box, you'll need a switch with built-in poe capability.

here’s what you should consider:
- **switch**: look for one that explicitly lists poe support (like 2x deco m5).
- **poe splitter**: choose a splitter that matches your power requirements (12v, 1.2a for switch, etc.).
- **cables & adapters**: use the right cables and adapters to connect your devices.
- **poe splitter specs**: check for compatibility with your existing gear—especially the chromecast, tradfrig, and pc.

your confusion is normal—poe can be tricky. keep asking questions and double-check each component before connecting anything.

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Th3_Green_Bean
Junior Member
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11-17-2023, 01:18 AM
#2
If the device doesn't recognize PoE, it won't function and will operate just like a regular internet connection. That's all there is to it. So. * would it work? Everything you have is functioning exactly as before. Nothing changes since none support PoE. * what should I search for in PoE splitters? A switch PoE splitter isn't available. * what should I look for in the switch? A basic PoE switch is sufficient, provided it meets your port count and speed requirements. * what else am I unsure about? You probably don't need a PoE switch because you don't have any PoE-enabled devices.
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Th3_Green_Bean
11-17-2023, 01:18 AM #2

If the device doesn't recognize PoE, it won't function and will operate just like a regular internet connection. That's all there is to it. So. * would it work? Everything you have is functioning exactly as before. Nothing changes since none support PoE. * what should I search for in PoE splitters? A switch PoE splitter isn't available. * what should I look for in the switch? A basic PoE switch is sufficient, provided it meets your port count and speed requirements. * what else am I unsure about? You probably don't need a PoE switch because you don't have any PoE-enabled devices.

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Izzius
Junior Member
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11-17-2023, 02:01 AM
#3
If the equipment lacks Power over Ethernet support, using a PoE port for power would be ineffective. You'd still need an external power source. Similar to PoE injectors that transform standard Ethernet ports into PoE connections, there are also devices that act as pass-through connectors, drawing power from a PoE cable and delivering it to the device. Some common examples include passive PoE adapters that convert 12V barrel jack power for security cameras—though these differ from network switch PoE setups. When bandwidth is set to 100 Mbps, only four of the eight available wires are utilized for data transmission; the remaining four remain unused. This is where passive PoE comes in: two unused wires carry voltage, and the other two carry grounding, allowing a simple voltage across the four active wires—typically up to 48 volts is considered safe. Active PoE, on the other hand, requires a chip at the receiving end to negotiate power allocation with the switch, enabling precise control over the amount of power assigned per device. For instance, a 24-port switch with a 100W PoE budget might support up to 25W per port; a device could request only 7W, allowing the switch to allocate the rest across other ports. Refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over...ng_devices for more details.
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Izzius
11-17-2023, 02:01 AM #3

If the equipment lacks Power over Ethernet support, using a PoE port for power would be ineffective. You'd still need an external power source. Similar to PoE injectors that transform standard Ethernet ports into PoE connections, there are also devices that act as pass-through connectors, drawing power from a PoE cable and delivering it to the device. Some common examples include passive PoE adapters that convert 12V barrel jack power for security cameras—though these differ from network switch PoE setups. When bandwidth is set to 100 Mbps, only four of the eight available wires are utilized for data transmission; the remaining four remain unused. This is where passive PoE comes in: two unused wires carry voltage, and the other two carry grounding, allowing a simple voltage across the four active wires—typically up to 48 volts is considered safe. Active PoE, on the other hand, requires a chip at the receiving end to negotiate power allocation with the switch, enabling precise control over the amount of power assigned per device. For instance, a 24-port switch with a 100W PoE budget might support up to 25W per port; a device could request only 7W, allowing the switch to allocate the rest across other ports. Refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over...ng_devices for more details.

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dies34
Junior Member
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11-17-2023, 08:16 AM
#4
I've found PoE adapters suitable for 5V equipment that have proven effective with non-native PoE devices. Some options include models from Amazon, though I'm still looking for the best fit. The main challenge has been locating compatible barrel adapters and similar connectors. For USB devices using micro-connections, those appear to work well. However, the 12V Deco M5 seems unsuitable because of its power needs.
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dies34
11-17-2023, 08:16 AM #4

I've found PoE adapters suitable for 5V equipment that have proven effective with non-native PoE devices. Some options include models from Amazon, though I'm still looking for the best fit. The main challenge has been locating compatible barrel adapters and similar connectors. For USB devices using micro-connections, those appear to work well. However, the 12V Deco M5 seems unsuitable because of its power needs.

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kitty_345
Member
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11-20-2023, 07:20 AM
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The issue involves high costs and the need for a separate device per unit, plus a switch that supports PoE. If bandwidth isn’t critical, purchasing a set of passive injector-extractor pairs (or larger) for $12 works well. Connect them to a 12V or higher power source and route the extra voltage through a 12V → 5V or 5V → 3.3V converter. At the receiving end, use a small step-down converter to lower the voltage as needed. The cables should be compatible with standard barrel jacks, allowing connection to a power supply. For more options, check Digi-Key listings for various voltage converters.
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kitty_345
11-20-2023, 07:20 AM #5

The issue involves high costs and the need for a separate device per unit, plus a switch that supports PoE. If bandwidth isn’t critical, purchasing a set of passive injector-extractor pairs (or larger) for $12 works well. Connect them to a 12V or higher power source and route the extra voltage through a 12V → 5V or 5V → 3.3V converter. At the receiving end, use a small step-down converter to lower the voltage as needed. The cables should be compatible with standard barrel jacks, allowing connection to a power supply. For more options, check Digi-Key listings for various voltage converters.