Hardware Upgrade Suggestions?
Hardware Upgrade Suggestions?
Hardware Upgrade Suggestions?
Looking to make some upgrades to my PC and wanted opinins. Here's what I'm working with:
Current build:
CPU: i7 3770k
GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 FTW
Mobo: Gigabyte B75M-D3H
PSU: Corsair CX600
Case: Coudln't even tell you but it's an old Thermaltake case lol
RAM: Generic 8gb of ram
Upgrades I want to make:
CPU: i7-7700k
MOBO: ASUS PRIME z270-A
PSU: Corsair RM850x
Case: Corsair 450D
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16gb 2400mhz
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H55
Obviously I intend to keep my GPU. I've never overclocked before and need some suggestions on air flow/fan locations and cpu cooling so any information helps! My original plan was to OC my 3770k but my mobo can't and apparently its pretty hard to find a good lga 1155 mobo for overclocking nowadays. Money isn't really a problem here as I plan to buy these things overtime but any suggestions on saving money is welcome!
Wait until Zen is out. Even with intel, prices will drop. I’ve used ASUS for about 15 years, but ASRock now provides better quality (components, power phases/VRM) in the same price range. Corsair is solid, though Kingston RAM has been more reliable over the past 2-3 years. Check if you can find a refurbished Corsair 760W (non I), made by Seasonic and using a newer layout compared to the original Seasonic 760W. MC sells them for $100 less than the new ones. The H60 would be a better upgrade (it has larger hoses, etc.), but it’s still based on ASETEX design and will likely fail due to pumps within 1-3 years. Go with the Articulate LC as it isn’t built on ASETEX, or the non-plus-ultra AIO from EK. Here are some links for reference:
- http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rTVBD3/a...-gaming-k6
- http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tx648d/a...70extreme7
- http://pcpartpicker.com/product/DykwrH/k...6c15fbk216
- http://www.microcenter.com/product/45719...efurbished
- http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yhbp99/c...pply-ax760
- http://pcpartpicker.com/product/wxcMnQ/a...cfre00016a
- https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xlc-predator-240
But since many are moving to AM4 brackets, you might struggle to find good options at a reasonable price.
Solid, just don't buy H55... it's a waste of money. Go air cooling instead, H55 won't be better than an air cooler but will create more noise. Never use less than 240mm radiator for water cooling.
Also, 850w is way too much for your upgrade. Plan accordingly—future CPUs and GPUs won't require more wattage than the current one. It really depends on you if you want to save money by choosing a lower wattage, but you'll need a better cooler than H55. A 16gb RAM is sufficient or you can upgrade anytime.
Also agree with fry178 about AsRock and the new Zen CPU.
i'm testing an AIO setup with a 3770k and the H60 works well. using two low-speed fans in push/pull mode keeps it completely quiet, and temperatures stay below 70°C even under full load. the main purpose of an AIO is to move heat outside the case, keeping internal components cooler than what even top air coolers can achieve. my chipset never exceeds 50°C, the 560ti is temporarily above 70°C, the 1070 stays under 68°C, and everything runs smoothly with just two case fans and all radiators spinning around 500rpm.
i don’t need to read or learn about that.
i started my first LC rig in 2005 from scratch, using external rads and a pump, with industrial connectors—making it portable.
my most recent custom loop was entirely passive, relying only on an external radiator (no fans at all).
when did i mention a 120 cools being better than 240?
how does air cooling provide more silence and performance?
(i don’t care about cheap options, because i’ve never found it worth it, no matter what it cost. the poster also didn’t mention price or cost.)
as before, i’m running a 3770k oced with the H60, which runs very quietly (just two 10dBa fans).
any air cooler would have to work much harder to maintain the same temperatures, since all other parts (board, gpu) also generate heat that gets trapped inside the case.
so for an air cooler to function optimally, you need strong airflow in your setup (like noticeable noise), which i don’t require with LC cooling.
and if you revisit my previous post, you’ll notice i wasn’t talking about pump noise, but about pump failure—something common with most Corsair coolers (and almost all others), since they’re based on Asetek’s design.
this isn’t true for coolers from Arctic and EK, which are fully designed by them.
and when i could get a H60 for about $20 more than a good two-fan air cooler, it still offers a major advantage:
it lets you release heat outside the case, which lowers temperatures across the board (gpu, etc.) by roughly 20–30°C.
so far, i haven’t found any air cooler that stays quiet even under full load (which my H60 does).
this contradicts what you said.
plus, could you show me one air cooler with a warranty covering all components if it fails? Something like corsair’s hydros warranty...
i don’t feel the need to read or study that.
i started my first LC rig in 2005 (from scratch using external rads/pump and industrial connectors, making it portable), and my most recent custom loop was entirely passive with an external radiator (no fans at all).
when did i mention a 120 cools being better than 240?
how does air cooling sound quieter and more effective?
(i don’t care about cheap options, as i’ve never seen it make sense to go low on quality, no matter what it was. and the poster didn’t mention anything about price or cost either).
as i mentioned before, i’m running a 3770k oced with the H60 completely silent (two 10dBa fans).
any air cooler would have to work much harder to maintain the same temperatures, since all other components (board/gpu) also generate heat that gets trapped inside the case.
so for an air cooler to perform optimally, you need a lot of airflow in your setup (like noise), which i don’t need with LC.
and if you read my previous post again, you’ll notice i wasn’t talking about pump noise, but pump failure, which is common for all Corsair coolers (and almost all other brands), since they’re based on Asetek’s design.
this isn’t true for coolers from Arctic and EK, as they are fully designed by them (not Asetek).
and when i could get a H60 for 20$ more than a decent two-fan air cooler, it still offers a big advantage over air cooling:
it lets the heat escape outside the case, which lowers all other temperatures (gpu board) by about 20-30*C.
so far, i haven’t found any air cooler that stays quiet under full load (which my H60 does).
this contradicts what you said.
ohh boy, it’s getting hot here.
I might want to read your post again:
I didn’t say the H55 is good.
The H60 would be better (upgrade one) because it has larger hoses, etc...
I never said H55/60 are better than the Evo.
I didn’t say AIOs are worth the money, but they seem like a perfect solution for dumping heat outside the case (which I and some people want).
We’re here to offer help and recommendations, not to tell someone what or what not to buy (unless you’re paying for it).
Even if it doesn’t make sense to us, the “perfect” choice for you might not be perfect for everyone else.
For example, who would tell their 5-year-old daughter that all reviews show the blue/silver/black bike is cheaper than the pink one, while doing the same job?
No, you wouldn’t.
You buy the pink one, and she’s happy.
I’m out...