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Gaming with DDR5 RAM offers improved speed and efficiency.

Gaming with DDR5 RAM offers improved speed and efficiency.

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Charliemc909
Posting Freak
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08-31-2023, 01:10 AM
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I've assembled multiple PCs throughout my career, though I'm still absorbing new insights. For instance, I recently discovered that CAS latency and timing play a role when choosing RAM for a gaming setup. My current configuration includes an i7-14700K CPU, an ASUS ROG Z790 Dark Hero graphics card, and an Alienware 32" 4K QDOLED monitor at 240Hz. The RAM here is a 32x2 Corsair Dominator Titanium module with 6600 MT/s CL32.

After reviewing some content on online calculators, I noticed my initial decision to upgrade from the CL40 to the CL32 was reasonable. My first latency reading dropped below 10 ms, which aligns with expectations. In CPU-heavy titles, especially when targeting higher-end GPUs like a future 5090, this adjustment likely added value—though I'm not counting on a massive gain to justify the $300 investment.

I’m considering a potential switch to AMD and a 9800X3D later, but I suspect those kits won’t sustain speeds above 6400 MT/s and might even hurt performance. For now, my current setup seems solid enough for my needs.

I appreciate the varied advice I’ve received from more experienced users. Most discussions seem to focus on CL differences (like 36 vs 32), but real-world tests often show much smaller impacts. I’m not a competitive player, so my priorities are more about stability and enjoyment than raw FPS gains. Thanks for the insights!
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Charliemc909
08-31-2023, 01:10 AM #1

I've assembled multiple PCs throughout my career, though I'm still absorbing new insights. For instance, I recently discovered that CAS latency and timing play a role when choosing RAM for a gaming setup. My current configuration includes an i7-14700K CPU, an ASUS ROG Z790 Dark Hero graphics card, and an Alienware 32" 4K QDOLED monitor at 240Hz. The RAM here is a 32x2 Corsair Dominator Titanium module with 6600 MT/s CL32.

After reviewing some content on online calculators, I noticed my initial decision to upgrade from the CL40 to the CL32 was reasonable. My first latency reading dropped below 10 ms, which aligns with expectations. In CPU-heavy titles, especially when targeting higher-end GPUs like a future 5090, this adjustment likely added value—though I'm not counting on a massive gain to justify the $300 investment.

I’m considering a potential switch to AMD and a 9800X3D later, but I suspect those kits won’t sustain speeds above 6400 MT/s and might even hurt performance. For now, my current setup seems solid enough for my needs.

I appreciate the varied advice I’ve received from more experienced users. Most discussions seem to focus on CL differences (like 36 vs 32), but real-world tests often show much smaller impacts. I’m not a competitive player, so my priorities are more about stability and enjoyment than raw FPS gains. Thanks for the insights!

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IIGuiGalouLT
Member
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08-31-2023, 05:47 AM
#2
I'd pay top for CL32, because even without overclocking it down to CL30, it shouldn't be too tough. My setup is currently CL30, adjusted to CL28. After tuning many timings, I saw a big jump—about +4GB/s in write speed, latency and read stayed the same. It's likely 1% lows are better, but I haven't tested that or compared before and after.
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IIGuiGalouLT
08-31-2023, 05:47 AM #2

I'd pay top for CL32, because even without overclocking it down to CL30, it shouldn't be too tough. My setup is currently CL30, adjusted to CL28. After tuning many timings, I saw a big jump—about +4GB/s in write speed, latency and read stayed the same. It's likely 1% lows are better, but I haven't tested that or compared before and after.

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Noxder_oJ
Member
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09-01-2023, 01:03 AM
#3
Here are some clarified points about RAM timings:

The timing values you see don’t tell the whole story without knowing the actual memory speed. All these numbers are expressed in clock cycles, so the real delay each time a signal travels across the chip changes with the frequency. For example, a CL26 board would perform poorly in a DDR5 4000 environment but excel in a DDR5 6000 setup. On the flip side, DDR5 8000 CL36 offers better CAS latency than DDR5 6000 CL30 even though the latter has a higher number, because the higher frequency more than makes up for it.

CAS latency isn’t the only factor—though it does matter—it influences performance. It doesn’t completely negate other important timings like tRCD and tRFC. In practice, if the memory controller works well, these smaller delays are often overshadowed by efficient queueing, so they have less impact on overall speed.

Many people push for low CAS kits because lower latency usually improves other key timings too. But this isn’t always true. For instance, a 6800 CL40 kit might not seem bad if it has a tRCD of 50, whereas a 6600 CL32 kit has a tRCD of 39. I still find it confusing why CAS latency is so heavily emphasized in these calculations (it’s just twice the data rate), but it’s often what people focus on when they’re comparing lower CAS options.

This also doesn’t apply universally. With AMD, kits up to 6000 work fine, and higher speeds usually default to 2:1 mode, which reduces performance due to latency costs. The sweet spot for AM5 tends to be DDR5 6000 CL30. The 14th gen supports stable speeds around 7200MT/s with single-rank memory, so dual-rank options like 2x16GB or 2x24GB won’t run at full speed unless you’re using the right configuration.

Some chips won’t reach their rated frequency for higher timings—my 13900K, for example, won’t handle dual-rank memory above 6000MT/s. So recommending kits above 6000 CL30 isn’t always wise if you need more than 64GB of RAM. If you switch to AMD, you can usually lower the speed and still get decent results, though performance drops noticeably unless you go even slower.

In demanding tasks, these settings often limit you to a certain level of speed. Cutting the price by about $300 might not be worth it, especially since the difference in performance versus a cheaper 6000 CL30 is minimal. Just use tools like CPU-Z to verify actual speeds and make sure XMP is enabled correctly.

Keep in mind that CPU-Z measures real frequency, not just data rate, and because DDR technology uses double data rates, the speed will be half of what’s listed.
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Noxder_oJ
09-01-2023, 01:03 AM #3

Here are some clarified points about RAM timings:

The timing values you see don’t tell the whole story without knowing the actual memory speed. All these numbers are expressed in clock cycles, so the real delay each time a signal travels across the chip changes with the frequency. For example, a CL26 board would perform poorly in a DDR5 4000 environment but excel in a DDR5 6000 setup. On the flip side, DDR5 8000 CL36 offers better CAS latency than DDR5 6000 CL30 even though the latter has a higher number, because the higher frequency more than makes up for it.

CAS latency isn’t the only factor—though it does matter—it influences performance. It doesn’t completely negate other important timings like tRCD and tRFC. In practice, if the memory controller works well, these smaller delays are often overshadowed by efficient queueing, so they have less impact on overall speed.

Many people push for low CAS kits because lower latency usually improves other key timings too. But this isn’t always true. For instance, a 6800 CL40 kit might not seem bad if it has a tRCD of 50, whereas a 6600 CL32 kit has a tRCD of 39. I still find it confusing why CAS latency is so heavily emphasized in these calculations (it’s just twice the data rate), but it’s often what people focus on when they’re comparing lower CAS options.

This also doesn’t apply universally. With AMD, kits up to 6000 work fine, and higher speeds usually default to 2:1 mode, which reduces performance due to latency costs. The sweet spot for AM5 tends to be DDR5 6000 CL30. The 14th gen supports stable speeds around 7200MT/s with single-rank memory, so dual-rank options like 2x16GB or 2x24GB won’t run at full speed unless you’re using the right configuration.

Some chips won’t reach their rated frequency for higher timings—my 13900K, for example, won’t handle dual-rank memory above 6000MT/s. So recommending kits above 6000 CL30 isn’t always wise if you need more than 64GB of RAM. If you switch to AMD, you can usually lower the speed and still get decent results, though performance drops noticeably unless you go even slower.

In demanding tasks, these settings often limit you to a certain level of speed. Cutting the price by about $300 might not be worth it, especially since the difference in performance versus a cheaper 6000 CL30 is minimal. Just use tools like CPU-Z to verify actual speeds and make sure XMP is enabled correctly.

Keep in mind that CPU-Z measures real frequency, not just data rate, and because DDR technology uses double data rates, the speed will be half of what’s listed.

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atahann
Junior Member
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09-01-2023, 05:15 AM
#4
Hey there! The discussions here are great—RONO has really helped clarify things about CL. I even picked up a few tips. Just wanted to mention I noticed you're using Intel 14th generation, so double-checking BIOS and microcode updates is a smart move to keep your CPU and motherboard running smoothly.
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atahann
09-01-2023, 05:15 AM #4

Hey there! The discussions here are great—RONO has really helped clarify things about CL. I even picked up a few tips. Just wanted to mention I noticed you're using Intel 14th generation, so double-checking BIOS and microcode updates is a smart move to keep your CPU and motherboard running smoothly.

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Vape_Client
Junior Member
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09-01-2023, 07:54 AM
#5
Absolutely, I had those issues too. I’m confident now after resolving the low video memory problems in several games. Appreciate all the helpful tips!
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Vape_Client
09-01-2023, 07:54 AM #5

Absolutely, I had those issues too. I’m confident now after resolving the low video memory problems in several games. Appreciate all the helpful tips!

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WhoIsKiller
Member
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09-01-2023, 07:20 PM
#6
I clearly grasped the importance of frequency and CL in the equation. Most of the details you shared were unfamiliar to me, which is helpful. Thank you for your patience and for sharing such valuable information.
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WhoIsKiller
09-01-2023, 07:20 PM #6

I clearly grasped the importance of frequency and CL in the equation. Most of the details you shared were unfamiliar to me, which is helpful. Thank you for your patience and for sharing such valuable information.

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Razlorus
Posting Freak
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09-02-2023, 03:01 AM
#7
Thanks for your kind words and the helpful details!
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Razlorus
09-02-2023, 03:01 AM #7

Thanks for your kind words and the helpful details!