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Front panel USBs can cause odd monitor artifacts, should I be concerned?

Front panel USBs can cause odd monitor artifacts, should I be concerned?

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Charliemc909
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01-11-2016, 12:14 AM
#1
Apologies if this discussion ends up in the wrong place.
This issue appears on a new build. When connecting a USB plug that powers one of the front panel ports, certain interactions cause my monitor (HDMI) to flicker green briefly (this also happens briefly when the computer shuts down, depending on circumstances). No problems occur with unpowered USBs or the back panel ones. It’s puzzling why only the front panel USBs seem to affect the monitor.

At first I was worried, but then an SD card connected through a front USB via an adapter became corrupted after being unplugged (I always use the safe removal feature). This makes me think this isn’t a random coincidence and that these ports could be risky for any device connected to them. I don’t want anything important getting damaged unnecessarily.

I’ve inspected all connections and wires, but nothing seems amiss. I’ve also replaced the whole motherboard for another reason. Possible explanations include the front panel case wiring being subpar (Lian Li Lancool 205M) or the PSU (EVGA Supernova 650 G5) being faulty, though I can’t confirm without spare parts.

Any suggestions or possible reasons for this behavior would be helpful.
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Charliemc909
01-11-2016, 12:14 AM #1

Apologies if this discussion ends up in the wrong place.
This issue appears on a new build. When connecting a USB plug that powers one of the front panel ports, certain interactions cause my monitor (HDMI) to flicker green briefly (this also happens briefly when the computer shuts down, depending on circumstances). No problems occur with unpowered USBs or the back panel ones. It’s puzzling why only the front panel USBs seem to affect the monitor.

At first I was worried, but then an SD card connected through a front USB via an adapter became corrupted after being unplugged (I always use the safe removal feature). This makes me think this isn’t a random coincidence and that these ports could be risky for any device connected to them. I don’t want anything important getting damaged unnecessarily.

I’ve inspected all connections and wires, but nothing seems amiss. I’ve also replaced the whole motherboard for another reason. Possible explanations include the front panel case wiring being subpar (Lian Li Lancool 205M) or the PSU (EVGA Supernova 650 G5) being faulty, though I can’t confirm without spare parts.

Any suggestions or possible reasons for this behavior would be helpful.

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FrightRider05
Member
159
01-11-2016, 01:39 AM
#2
When the USB3 cable from the motherboard to the front panel plus the connection from the front panel to the external device surpass 2ft (60cm), issues like crosstalk and voltage drops may occur, especially with powered devices. Try to keep your cables as short as possible or opt for rear ports.
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FrightRider05
01-11-2016, 01:39 AM #2

When the USB3 cable from the motherboard to the front panel plus the connection from the front panel to the external device surpass 2ft (60cm), issues like crosstalk and voltage drops may occur, especially with powered devices. Try to keep your cables as short as possible or opt for rear ports.

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Malthe581
Member
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01-11-2016, 02:52 AM
#3
It looks like the USB connector could be causing a short on the side front panel or inside, preventing any cables from reaching the case.
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Malthe581
01-11-2016, 02:52 AM #3

It looks like the USB connector could be causing a short on the side front panel or inside, preventing any cables from reaching the case.

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Zexer_
Member
159
01-12-2016, 06:59 PM
#4
When you mention the USB plug is "powered," it refers to the device receiving power from the computer, not supplying +5V from a mains supply.
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Zexer_
01-12-2016, 06:59 PM #4

When you mention the USB plug is "powered," it refers to the device receiving power from the computer, not supplying +5V from a mains supply.

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Paula_Madej
Member
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01-14-2016, 04:15 AM
#5
I'm not certain about swapping the USB 3 cable, but it seems too short to cause issues since it won't have much slack left after reaching its destination.
I attempted to reorganize my cable setup several times without success. I tried to ensure the USB 3 wasn't in contact with any panels.
A powered USB refers to an external drive that draws power from an AC adapter, and this issue occurs no matter which cable or drive is used, so those factors are also ruled out.
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Paula_Madej
01-14-2016, 04:15 AM #5

I'm not certain about swapping the USB 3 cable, but it seems too short to cause issues since it won't have much slack left after reaching its destination.
I attempted to reorganize my cable setup several times without success. I tried to ensure the USB 3 wasn't in contact with any panels.
A powered USB refers to an external drive that draws power from an AC adapter, and this issue occurs no matter which cable or drive is used, so those factors are also ruled out.

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ANgL1337
Junior Member
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01-14-2016, 12:47 PM
#6
If you own a multimeter, adjust it to the 20V AC setting and link one probe to the metal casing of the external drive’s USB port while connecting the other to the computer’s metal chassis. If the meter shows a voltage variation, the issue might be present.

This happens because some power supplies only provide two connections—Line and Neutral—without Earth ground. This setup is generally secure due to double isolation between high and low voltage circuits.

But occasionally, Class-X and Class-Y EMI/RFI suppression capacitors in the PSU create a minor AC leakage path to the DC output. Grounding the USB connector to the chassis can allow a small AC current to flow, possibly causing the monitor glitch. It’s best to upgrade to a DC power supply.

For USB3 external drives, I prefer 1ft/30cm USB-A connectors and 8in/20cm USB-C cables to minimize data corruption risks. Using longer or low-quality cables can lead to poor transfers, especially at the front panel. Connecting via the rear panel is therefore recommended.
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ANgL1337
01-14-2016, 12:47 PM #6

If you own a multimeter, adjust it to the 20V AC setting and link one probe to the metal casing of the external drive’s USB port while connecting the other to the computer’s metal chassis. If the meter shows a voltage variation, the issue might be present.

This happens because some power supplies only provide two connections—Line and Neutral—without Earth ground. This setup is generally secure due to double isolation between high and low voltage circuits.

But occasionally, Class-X and Class-Y EMI/RFI suppression capacitors in the PSU create a minor AC leakage path to the DC output. Grounding the USB connector to the chassis can allow a small AC current to flow, possibly causing the monitor glitch. It’s best to upgrade to a DC power supply.

For USB3 external drives, I prefer 1ft/30cm USB-A connectors and 8in/20cm USB-C cables to minimize data corruption risks. Using longer or low-quality cables can lead to poor transfers, especially at the front panel. Connecting via the rear panel is therefore recommended.

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realsanderman
Junior Member
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01-15-2016, 05:16 AM
#7
I think I'll have to live with non-working front ports for the near future because I can't properly figure out what's wrong. It's a letdown, but it's safer than thinking I might harm anything connected to it. Regarding the green flash on the HDMI monitor when shutting down, it seems like nothing serious is happening compared to the other monitor using DisplayPort.
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realsanderman
01-15-2016, 05:16 AM #7

I think I'll have to live with non-working front ports for the near future because I can't properly figure out what's wrong. It's a letdown, but it's safer than thinking I might harm anything connected to it. Regarding the green flash on the HDMI monitor when shutting down, it seems like nothing serious is happening compared to the other monitor using DisplayPort.

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Dave1304
Member
180
01-16-2016, 04:20 AM
#8
Have you experimented with a different power supply unit for the external drive, or looked for any voltage differences between the two devices? I'm not worried about the green flash. The sun sometimes displays it when it sets below the horizon.
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Dave1304
01-16-2016, 04:20 AM #8

Have you experimented with a different power supply unit for the external drive, or looked for any voltage differences between the two devices? I'm not worried about the green flash. The sun sometimes displays it when it sets below the horizon.

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01-16-2016, 04:29 AM
#9
I don't have access to a multimeter to check voltages, unfortunately.
But I did replace the AC adapter with the external drive (verified input/output to ensure they matched), and it doesn't cause screen corruption when touching the USB from the drive to the front panel ports. I swapped them just to confirm, and it's still the old AC adapter I've been using. It seems something might be wrong, though—I'm not sure how long or what exactly. I feel a bit foolish for missing such a simple explanation. I was so focused on the SD card corruption that I didn't notice it could be the issue. The card is only a year and a half old, so it's possible they can fail, but it still felt unusual for it to fail so quickly. I'll probably be a bit anxious for a while.
Anyway, I hope this clears things up. Thanks for your help.
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digginforworms
01-16-2016, 04:29 AM #9

I don't have access to a multimeter to check voltages, unfortunately.
But I did replace the AC adapter with the external drive (verified input/output to ensure they matched), and it doesn't cause screen corruption when touching the USB from the drive to the front panel ports. I swapped them just to confirm, and it's still the old AC adapter I've been using. It seems something might be wrong, though—I'm not sure how long or what exactly. I feel a bit foolish for missing such a simple explanation. I was so focused on the SD card corruption that I didn't notice it could be the issue. The card is only a year and a half old, so it's possible they can fail, but it still felt unusual for it to fail so quickly. I'll probably be a bit anxious for a while.
Anyway, I hope this clears things up. Thanks for your help.

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dathdave
Junior Member
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01-31-2016, 01:30 AM
#10
Based on the indications, your previous PSU had faulty EMI/RFI capacitors, which I mentioned earlier. It's reassuring to hear that the updated PSU has resolved the issue.
Low-cost PSUs and battery chargers often feature dubious designs, fewer parts, and inferior build quality compared to premium models.
It makes sense why Canon, Nikon, and others charge between $50 and $100 for their camera battery chargers, whereas Chinese alternatives cost only $10 to $15. If you inspect the chargers closely, the disparity becomes obvious.
If you're interested in verifying an SD card (or similar) for corruption, try downloading h2testw.exe, a German-developed tool. Its primary function is to identify fake memory cards sold at suspiciously low prices on platforms like AliExpress, eBay, and Amazon.
H2testw generates 1GB test files onto the card until it fills up, then reads them back to check integrity. It also compares the stated capacity with the actual data written.
Some fake Sandisk and Samsung cards claiming 64GB often contain only a 2GB chip, but they are modified to appear larger. Once your camera writes 2GB to the card, further file operations quietly erase older data.
You'll first notice problems when you can't recall photos saved three months ago, as newer images overwrite the older ones.
Old CRT monitors and TVs would flash when turned off. It's unclear what signals are sent to your display when you power down the computer. Don't worry about the green flash.
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dathdave
01-31-2016, 01:30 AM #10

Based on the indications, your previous PSU had faulty EMI/RFI capacitors, which I mentioned earlier. It's reassuring to hear that the updated PSU has resolved the issue.
Low-cost PSUs and battery chargers often feature dubious designs, fewer parts, and inferior build quality compared to premium models.
It makes sense why Canon, Nikon, and others charge between $50 and $100 for their camera battery chargers, whereas Chinese alternatives cost only $10 to $15. If you inspect the chargers closely, the disparity becomes obvious.
If you're interested in verifying an SD card (or similar) for corruption, try downloading h2testw.exe, a German-developed tool. Its primary function is to identify fake memory cards sold at suspiciously low prices on platforms like AliExpress, eBay, and Amazon.
H2testw generates 1GB test files onto the card until it fills up, then reads them back to check integrity. It also compares the stated capacity with the actual data written.
Some fake Sandisk and Samsung cards claiming 64GB often contain only a 2GB chip, but they are modified to appear larger. Once your camera writes 2GB to the card, further file operations quietly erase older data.
You'll first notice problems when you can't recall photos saved three months ago, as newer images overwrite the older ones.
Old CRT monitors and TVs would flash when turned off. It's unclear what signals are sent to your display when you power down the computer. Don't worry about the green flash.