Fewer Intel non-K CPUs exist due to market demands and performance expectations.
Fewer Intel non-K CPUs exist due to market demands and performance expectations.
Intel seems to lock in 3MB of L3 cache for each P core and E core group, even when those cores aren't actively used. The 13400 looks like a flawed choice compared to the 13400f, which offers better value, and the 13600k is positioned as a strong option despite some uncertainty about its benefits. The 13900k retains 36MB of L3 when E cores are off, suggesting flexibility. I’m wondering if someone with a 13700k or 13900k could test whether it’s possible to reconfigure those chips to match the 13600k specs.
Examples include Kerbal Space Program, Space Engineers, Stormworks, Paradox series, and Totalwar series. I also have Star Citizen but can't run it on my CPU at the moment. The claim that Intel outperforms AMD in power usage is noted, though it doesn't connect to this discussion. Edited August 7, 2023 by ThalesMML
All listed games fit a 13600k budget. That resolved the launch power problems on the Ryzen. This video covers launch issues that are typical. It was publicly fixed months back; otherwise my 7600 server wouldn’t run smoothly at 21w idle (the whole system). Remember, Intel performs worse under load.
I hadn't encountered the boost time limit before, thanks for sharing the details! How is it restricted to 65W? Is exceeding that allowed during boost operation, especially at higher frequencies? Which boost type applies? On Intel's site, they list three frequencies for 13900 P-cores: Thermal Velocity Boost at 5.6GHz, Turbo Boost Max at 5.5GHz, and Performance-core Max at 5.2GHz. For an i9-13900 in gaming, it seems the P-cores might cycle between 5.2GHz and 5.6GHz for short bursts during boost, then drop to 3GHz for a few minutes before re-energizing. If this sounds plausible, I might skip non-K CPUs just for that reason. The 13900/13900K is just an example; I recognize it's a top-tier processor. Comparisons could be made with 13700/13700K or similar models. Also, do AMD have comparable features for non-X CPUs?
Recently I've conducted some testing on Diablo 4, focusing mainly on CPU power usage during gaming this weekend. When the 7950x3D was fully enabled, it averaged around 55W; with 8 cores and no overclocking, it was about 45W. At 6 cores and 12 threads, it stayed near 41W. These readings were taken over about 30 minutes with the game consistently in focus, avoiding idle times or background processes that could skew results. Core speeds were generally between 4.5 and 4.8GHz, and the 6c/12t setup didn’t show significant differences compared to other configurations. There were occasional spikes where all cores exceeded 5GHz more often.
They mentioned you have full freedom with all the CPUs. The X3D models are a bit more constrained due to voltage limits, otherwise they could physically damage the CPU as seen on some boards that ignored AMD's specifications. After applying the necessary fixes, you can push things to a certain safe boundary for X3D and even more so for non-X3D or those who don't care.
I've been reviewing my recent findings and believe the Ryzen 7700 offers strong value for its price and future upgrades. - Solid single-thread performance with 8 cores (prioritizing core count) - Comes with a stock cooler - Efficient power consumption making it manageable to cool - Overclocking support via PBO - Built on the AM5 platform, which could let me upgrade to newer AM5 CPUs in 2025 or possibly a few years later (there are still Ryzen 5000 models available after three years). By the way, the Ryzen 7700 and 7700x prices are nearly the same in my region, so should I opt for the 7700x considering its eco mode?
Why not go with 7700x? But I still suggest an aftermarket cooler. An Ak400 is the bare minimum, or something similar but better. It lets the CPU run hotter and keeps the cooler quiet.
I heard about thermalright peerless assassin but it isn't available nearby. I'll search for comparable coolers. Also, I watched gaming benchmark videos showing 7700x with eco mode achieving the same FPS. Most importantly, I'm weighing whether a new PC case is essential compared to my old CM 690. I saw a video about cooling performance of a similar PC case to mine (9:45). Should I consider upgrading to a new PC case, or would temperature differences be minimal?
A cm690 offers excellent protection. Maintain it. Upgrading isn't necessary unless you desire a distinct appearance. For improved heat dissipation, consider a higher-quality cooler. Options like the ak620 or sycthe fuma2 provide solid budget-friendly performance. I suggest sticking with the stock model if it meets your needs.