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Extremely high temperatures affect liquid cooling performance at 3570k.

Extremely high temperatures affect liquid cooling performance at 3570k.

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JustVanilla
Member
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03-25-2016, 03:05 AM
#1
Hi.
I bought a GamerStorm MaelStrom 120K for $80 and have an i5 3570k. I've tested 4.5ghz at 1.29v but it failed (probably too high voltage). I also tried stock voltage, temps went over 100°C. I attached a picture of 4.3ghz at 1.29v but the core stayed under 1.2v. The image shows temps at 85°C. Why are these readings so high? Did I install it properly? Are these temperatures normal? What safe limits should I know?
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JustVanilla
03-25-2016, 03:05 AM #1

Hi.
I bought a GamerStorm MaelStrom 120K for $80 and have an i5 3570k. I've tested 4.5ghz at 1.29v but it failed (probably too high voltage). I also tried stock voltage, temps went over 100°C. I attached a picture of 4.3ghz at 1.29v but the core stayed under 1.2v. The image shows temps at 85°C. Why are these readings so high? Did I install it properly? Are these temperatures normal? What safe limits should I know?

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EisTeeKlaus
Senior Member
490
03-25-2016, 10:19 AM
#2
120mm radiators in closed loop coolers can really only manage to dissipate up to 150 watts at the best... in practice, 130-140w seems more achievable. Your CPU has a 77w TDP when running at default settings, but as voltage and clock speed increase, the TDP climbs steadily. With higher clock speeds and voltage changes, you might approach the capacity of these radiators. Since closed loop coolers rely on low-power pumps and aluminum radiators (often brass or copper), their performance is constrained by these factors, leading to a lower Delta-T compared to other cooling solutions.
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EisTeeKlaus
03-25-2016, 10:19 AM #2

120mm radiators in closed loop coolers can really only manage to dissipate up to 150 watts at the best... in practice, 130-140w seems more achievable. Your CPU has a 77w TDP when running at default settings, but as voltage and clock speed increase, the TDP climbs steadily. With higher clock speeds and voltage changes, you might approach the capacity of these radiators. Since closed loop coolers rely on low-power pumps and aluminum radiators (often brass or copper), their performance is constrained by these factors, leading to a lower Delta-T compared to other cooling solutions.

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Jangusty
Junior Member
43
03-25-2016, 07:28 PM
#3
Check if achieving a lower temperature with reduced overclocking is possible. The jump from 3.4 to 4.5 is quite significant.
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Jangusty
03-25-2016, 07:28 PM #3

Check if achieving a lower temperature with reduced overclocking is possible. The jump from 3.4 to 4.5 is quite significant.

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Papa_4ndy
Junior Member
17
03-31-2016, 11:31 PM
#4
that's a significant overclock, and 120 single rad AIOs aren't ideal. You'd be better off using dual 14's air coolers.
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Papa_4ndy
03-31-2016, 11:31 PM #4

that's a significant overclock, and 120 single rad AIOs aren't ideal. You'd be better off using dual 14's air coolers.

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CJSB
Junior Member
35
04-01-2016, 12:39 AM
#5
Testing the default settings of the mobile module (P8Z77V-LK) at 4.2ghz. Uncertain why optimized defaults in BIOS shift it from 3.8 to 4.2. Present temperatures are 71°C, 81°C, 82°C, and 78°C for the cores in sequence. Likely a $30 air cooler performs better?
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CJSB
04-01-2016, 12:39 AM #5

Testing the default settings of the mobile module (P8Z77V-LK) at 4.2ghz. Uncertain why optimized defaults in BIOS shift it from 3.8 to 4.2. Present temperatures are 71°C, 81°C, 82°C, and 78°C for the cores in sequence. Likely a $30 air cooler performs better?

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LolaLouie
Senior Member
742
04-05-2016, 05:19 PM
#6
yes, cryorig r1, noctua nh-d14,15, phanteks ph-tc14pe etc can even surpass 240mm rad aio coolers
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LolaLouie
04-05-2016, 05:19 PM #6

yes, cryorig r1, noctua nh-d14,15, phanteks ph-tc14pe etc can even surpass 240mm rad aio coolers

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ItsMeKhaan
Junior Member
10
04-06-2016, 05:48 AM
#7
If you just installed it, you might notice a slight temperature increase over time (during the initial period). The document suggests checking the 4.3 version, but with the 120mm radiator, it could be better to revert to the 4.2 model. A radiator size between 240-280mm would offer a bit more than a few hundred Mhz, though it won't significantly boost performance, so it might not be necessary for you.
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ItsMeKhaan
04-06-2016, 05:48 AM #7

If you just installed it, you might notice a slight temperature increase over time (during the initial period). The document suggests checking the 4.3 version, but with the 120mm radiator, it could be better to revert to the 4.2 model. A radiator size between 240-280mm would offer a bit more than a few hundred Mhz, though it won't significantly boost performance, so it might not be necessary for you.

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J4im3x0
Member
164
04-06-2016, 07:02 AM
#8
I own Scyhte mugen 4 pcgh(2x120mm) and I have an i7 5820k 6c/12t (very hot chip). It's overclocked to 4.0 and never exceeds 55°C. It was originally priced at 40€. 😀
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J4im3x0
04-06-2016, 07:02 AM #8

I own Scyhte mugen 4 pcgh(2x120mm) and I have an i7 5820k 6c/12t (very hot chip). It's overclocked to 4.0 and never exceeds 55°C. It was originally priced at 40€. 😀

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EliteHockey52
Junior Member
2
04-06-2016, 09:34 PM
#9
The order of mounting the radiator and hoses matters. Mounting it with hoses at the bottom versus having them spiral downward from the top could affect stability and airflow.
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EliteHockey52
04-06-2016, 09:34 PM #9

The order of mounting the radiator and hoses matters. Mounting it with hoses at the bottom versus having them spiral downward from the top could affect stability and airflow.

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04-09-2016, 04:44 PM
#10
It looks like users can achieve around 4.5ghz on a hyper evo, which is a more affordable air cooler, but they struggle to hit 4.2ghz because the temperatures are between 75c and 80c. Would reapplying thermal paste help? The existing paste seems to have been quite effective.
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YourBoyBarcode
04-09-2016, 04:44 PM #10

It looks like users can achieve around 4.5ghz on a hyper evo, which is a more affordable air cooler, but they struggle to hit 4.2ghz because the temperatures are between 75c and 80c. Would reapplying thermal paste help? The existing paste seems to have been quite effective.

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