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Experiencing bluescreen issues with quad-channel memory while dual-channel is working?

Experiencing bluescreen issues with quad-channel memory while dual-channel is working?

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Voganist
Junior Member
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07-09-2021, 02:54 AM
#1
Hello everyone, I’ve been experiencing a lot of blue screens since setting up my computer about a month and a half ago, and they’ve intensified lately. It kept displaying errors that looked like RAM issues, so I removed two sticks. (I’m using 4 8GB PNY 2666 MHz DDR4 RAM sticks overclocked to 3000MHz) After taking out two, all the crashes stopped. At least, I haven’t had one in two days—an impressive improvement for this machine. Usually I’d see 2 or 3 crashes daily, so I assumed my RAM might be faulty. I set aside the working pair and tried to simulate crashes with the remaining ones, but the system remains remarkably stable so far!? I’m puzzled, it seems like I only get issues in quad channel mode. What might be behind this? Just for context, my motherboard is an MSI TomaHawk Z590 WIFI board, paired with an MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Z Trio 12GB, a vital 1TB NVMe drive, and an Intel i9 10900K. Everything is brand new. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, especially since I do a lot of memory-heavy tasks and 16GB won’t suffice.
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Voganist
07-09-2021, 02:54 AM #1

Hello everyone, I’ve been experiencing a lot of blue screens since setting up my computer about a month and a half ago, and they’ve intensified lately. It kept displaying errors that looked like RAM issues, so I removed two sticks. (I’m using 4 8GB PNY 2666 MHz DDR4 RAM sticks overclocked to 3000MHz) After taking out two, all the crashes stopped. At least, I haven’t had one in two days—an impressive improvement for this machine. Usually I’d see 2 or 3 crashes daily, so I assumed my RAM might be faulty. I set aside the working pair and tried to simulate crashes with the remaining ones, but the system remains remarkably stable so far!? I’m puzzled, it seems like I only get issues in quad channel mode. What might be behind this? Just for context, my motherboard is an MSI TomaHawk Z590 WIFI board, paired with an MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Z Trio 12GB, a vital 1TB NVMe drive, and an Intel i9 10900K. Everything is brand new. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, especially since I do a lot of memory-heavy tasks and 16GB won’t suffice.

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KablooieKablam
Posting Freak
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07-09-2021, 10:48 PM
#2
You're missing quad channel with four memory modules. Instead, you get dual channel, using two per channel. You acknowledge you're pushing those PNY sticks to 3000 MHz—overclocking might have been close, perhaps timing adjustments or higher voltage could help stability, though results aren't guaranteed. It really depends on the memory chip maker, quality, and how well that specific series handles overclocking. Generally, managing four sticks is more challenging for the CPU memory controller than two, which explains why it's easier when you only have two sticks on the board.
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KablooieKablam
07-09-2021, 10:48 PM #2

You're missing quad channel with four memory modules. Instead, you get dual channel, using two per channel. You acknowledge you're pushing those PNY sticks to 3000 MHz—overclocking might have been close, perhaps timing adjustments or higher voltage could help stability, though results aren't guaranteed. It really depends on the memory chip maker, quality, and how well that specific series handles overclocking. Generally, managing four sticks is more challenging for the CPU memory controller than two, which explains why it's easier when you only have two sticks on the board.

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Tyson142
Member
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07-17-2021, 05:45 AM
#3
You may have to buy two 16 GB drives and trade the 8 GB ones to cover the gap.
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Tyson142
07-17-2021, 05:45 AM #3

You may have to buy two 16 GB drives and trade the 8 GB ones to cover the gap.

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07-17-2021, 10:54 AM
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It might be that xmp on the 4x8 setup caused instability because the memory controller didn’t like it. You could run memtest 86 on two pairs separately to check if the drives are faulty. Once confirmed, try running them slowly to see how far you can push them.
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jedi_sandmite_
07-17-2021, 10:54 AM #4

It might be that xmp on the 4x8 setup caused instability because the memory controller didn’t like it. You could run memtest 86 on two pairs separately to check if the drives are faulty. Once confirmed, try running them slowly to see how far you can push them.

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BryanPlayzz
Member
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07-17-2021, 12:31 PM
#5
Probably various RAM settings are responsible for this issue. Check both kits for identical ICS and look for a configuration that could help stabilize them. Avoid blindly increasing RAM without checking online, as it might not solve the problem and could cause more trouble.
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BryanPlayzz
07-17-2021, 12:31 PM #5

Probably various RAM settings are responsible for this issue. Check both kits for identical ICS and look for a configuration that could help stabilize them. Avoid blindly increasing RAM without checking online, as it might not solve the problem and could cause more trouble.

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ItsWolflord
Member
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07-17-2021, 02:48 PM
#6
I experienced crashes prior to increasing the RAM speed, and even when using two modules, I didn’t lower the overclock. Both modules remain at 3000MHz and are fully stable.
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ItsWolflord
07-17-2021, 02:48 PM #6

I experienced crashes prior to increasing the RAM speed, and even when using two modules, I didn’t lower the overclock. Both modules remain at 3000MHz and are fully stable.

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Zi__Ye
Junior Member
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08-03-2021, 02:16 PM
#7
I increased the RAM speed expecting better graphics performance, but results stayed the same. System stability remained unaffected by the change; it just felt slightly quicker. The setup consisted of two 2x8 GB modules from the same brand. I hadn’t considered using more than two sticks, nor did I realize you could run multiple sets.
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Zi__Ye
08-03-2021, 02:16 PM #7

I increased the RAM speed expecting better graphics performance, but results stayed the same. System stability remained unaffected by the change; it just felt slightly quicker. The setup consisted of two 2x8 GB modules from the same brand. I hadn’t considered using more than two sticks, nor did I realize you could run multiple sets.

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aguzz123123
Senior Member
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08-12-2021, 11:34 PM
#8
LOL Matt129 I expected the same, usually work in teams... But I’d cut my variable to avoid troubleshooting. Skip all overclocking first, then run memory tests as suggested in the chat. For now, check 2 at a time in the "Working Memory slots." If they pass, verify with known working in empty slots (all slots in use). If you don’t succeed here, it’s probably not a DIMM problem. It could be a board issue with DIMM 2 & 3 (assuming numbered 0–3). If your board supports just one DIMM, you can test each slot separately. My machine and servers always needed pairs, but I’ve sometimes mixed them up for the past few years... Still prefer the traditional approach. By the way, it doesn’t seem like a DIMM issue based on what you’ve shared so far.
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aguzz123123
08-12-2021, 11:34 PM #8

LOL Matt129 I expected the same, usually work in teams... But I’d cut my variable to avoid troubleshooting. Skip all overclocking first, then run memory tests as suggested in the chat. For now, check 2 at a time in the "Working Memory slots." If they pass, verify with known working in empty slots (all slots in use). If you don’t succeed here, it’s probably not a DIMM problem. It could be a board issue with DIMM 2 & 3 (assuming numbered 0–3). If your board supports just one DIMM, you can test each slot separately. My machine and servers always needed pairs, but I’ve sometimes mixed them up for the past few years... Still prefer the traditional approach. By the way, it doesn’t seem like a DIMM issue based on what you’ve shared so far.

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___iRekt___
Senior Member
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08-19-2021, 09:21 AM
#9
I completed the memory test three times while the system was still failing, and the results showed no issues. Regarding the DIMM problem, does it refer to the storage drives or the motherboard?
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___iRekt___
08-19-2021, 09:21 AM #9

I completed the memory test three times while the system was still failing, and the results showed no issues. Regarding the DIMM problem, does it refer to the storage drives or the motherboard?

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TorcikPL
Member
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08-19-2021, 10:29 AM
#10
However, I'm using an Intel Core i9 10900K, which shouldn't face any problems with memory handling
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TorcikPL
08-19-2021, 10:29 AM #10

However, I'm using an Intel Core i9 10900K, which shouldn't face any problems with memory handling

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