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Executing Linux tasks: terminal instructions, additional commands, ongoing fixes

Executing Linux tasks: terminal instructions, additional commands, ongoing fixes

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Silverr94
Member
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02-24-2016, 07:14 PM
#1
Hello, When using Linux for simple tasks such as installing software you need to work with the terminal. Unless you’re getting things from a store, tools like Notepad++ or Java IDEs feel like a tough process that demands terminal interaction. Why is this happening in 2020? Why doesn’t Linux adopt a more visual approach like Windows and MacOS if they aim to encourage people to switch? In recent years yes, distros have become a bit easier, but updating the OS or apps still requires the terminal, installing programs involves packages, etc. I understand some users love the terminal, but for the majority it’s not worth the hassle of multiple steps and dependency issues that would take just a minute on Windows or MacOS.
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Silverr94
02-24-2016, 07:14 PM #1

Hello, When using Linux for simple tasks such as installing software you need to work with the terminal. Unless you’re getting things from a store, tools like Notepad++ or Java IDEs feel like a tough process that demands terminal interaction. Why is this happening in 2020? Why doesn’t Linux adopt a more visual approach like Windows and MacOS if they aim to encourage people to switch? In recent years yes, distros have become a bit easier, but updating the OS or apps still requires the terminal, installing programs involves packages, etc. I understand some users love the terminal, but for the majority it’s not worth the hassle of multiple steps and dependency issues that would take just a minute on Windows or MacOS.

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Sparkstorms
Junior Member
47
02-24-2016, 07:35 PM
#2
Because that’s the way Linux operates. It’s not Windows or macOS—it’s Linux, and this precise level of control is why it powers most servers worldwide. The idea that 99% of people would prefer a simpler experience with the terminal and avoid the complexity of Windows or MacOS is unrealistic. No one is pushing them to switch. Linus Torvalds strongly opposes Linux merging with Windows or macOS. Maybe when he steps back, others might suggest improvements, but as long as he remains in charge, that won’t happen.
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Sparkstorms
02-24-2016, 07:35 PM #2

Because that’s the way Linux operates. It’s not Windows or macOS—it’s Linux, and this precise level of control is why it powers most servers worldwide. The idea that 99% of people would prefer a simpler experience with the terminal and avoid the complexity of Windows or MacOS is unrealistic. No one is pushing them to switch. Linus Torvalds strongly opposes Linux merging with Windows or macOS. Maybe when he steps back, others might suggest improvements, but as long as he remains in charge, that won’t happen.

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BanannaKing202
Junior Member
42
03-15-2016, 10:10 PM
#3
Linux demands clarity about each action. This reflects its true nature. Greater openness simplifies fixing problems and tailoring settings. Linux offers boundless possibilities. Theoretically, you can achieve anything without limits or expenses. Many users are accustomed to Windows-style interfaces, which might make terminal use seem daunting. However, terminal work is essential for administrative duties. On Windows and Mac, handling system tasks is often more straightforward via command lines. Setting up a PC like a familiar device ensures smooth operation. There’s a clear distinction between admin work and regular user needs. Also, packet managers have made Linux distributions exceptionally secure and user-friendly. Usually, issues arise only from outdated updates or incompatible software versions—often when you skip the package manager. P.S. Why run Notepad++ on Linux?
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BanannaKing202
03-15-2016, 10:10 PM #3

Linux demands clarity about each action. This reflects its true nature. Greater openness simplifies fixing problems and tailoring settings. Linux offers boundless possibilities. Theoretically, you can achieve anything without limits or expenses. Many users are accustomed to Windows-style interfaces, which might make terminal use seem daunting. However, terminal work is essential for administrative duties. On Windows and Mac, handling system tasks is often more straightforward via command lines. Setting up a PC like a familiar device ensures smooth operation. There’s a clear distinction between admin work and regular user needs. Also, packet managers have made Linux distributions exceptionally secure and user-friendly. Usually, issues arise only from outdated updates or incompatible software versions—often when you skip the package manager. P.S. Why run Notepad++ on Linux?

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LeoTeixas
Junior Member
6
03-16-2016, 12:03 AM
#4
Windows and Mac OS are paid products. Microsoft and Apple compensate individuals to promote features that attract their specific audiences. Linux interfaces tend to be built by enthusiasts who work outside regular hours, so they prioritize personal interests over commercial goals. Since many distributions are free, the developers behind them often lack strong motivation to grow their user base. There’s no need for major kernel modifications; existing solutions suffice. The main issue is a lack of sufficient interest among creators.
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LeoTeixas
03-16-2016, 12:03 AM #4

Windows and Mac OS are paid products. Microsoft and Apple compensate individuals to promote features that attract their specific audiences. Linux interfaces tend to be built by enthusiasts who work outside regular hours, so they prioritize personal interests over commercial goals. Since many distributions are free, the developers behind them often lack strong motivation to grow their user base. There’s no need for major kernel modifications; existing solutions suffice. The main issue is a lack of sufficient interest among creators.

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moosebones15
Junior Member
2
03-21-2016, 08:31 PM
#5
Android operates mainly on Linux yet benefits from a paid development team aiming for broad appeal. They've invested effort in creating an intuitive user experience. DSM follows a similar path. The PS4 utilizes BSD derived from Unix, which works effectively but lacks motivation due to commercial interests. Many core Linux developers prefer maintaining exclusivity, and figures like Torvalds exemplify this stance.
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moosebones15
03-21-2016, 08:31 PM #5

Android operates mainly on Linux yet benefits from a paid development team aiming for broad appeal. They've invested effort in creating an intuitive user experience. DSM follows a similar path. The PS4 utilizes BSD derived from Unix, which works effectively but lacks motivation due to commercial interests. Many core Linux developers prefer maintaining exclusivity, and figures like Torvalds exemplify this stance.

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Klitaurus
Member
69
03-22-2016, 12:20 AM
#6
What you've said isn't completely right. You don't need a terminal; tools like package managers are sufficient. Use search and install—just two clicks for updates. Linux keeps things simple, it won’t tell you what’s installed. Just update now, click here, and proceed. This is specific to package managers. It also demands an understanding of installation steps. You're not after Notepad++ or a Java IDE; you're seeking an editor, and so on. Your message seems from someone who hasn't spent 10–15 minutes exploring their distribution to see what's running.
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Klitaurus
03-22-2016, 12:20 AM #6

What you've said isn't completely right. You don't need a terminal; tools like package managers are sufficient. Use search and install—just two clicks for updates. Linux keeps things simple, it won’t tell you what’s installed. Just update now, click here, and proceed. This is specific to package managers. It also demands an understanding of installation steps. You're not after Notepad++ or a Java IDE; you're seeking an editor, and so on. Your message seems from someone who hasn't spent 10–15 minutes exploring their distribution to see what's running.

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DarthRy
Junior Member
42
03-28-2016, 11:10 AM
#7
This claim is misleading. The kernel refers to the hardware support layer. Linus doesn't have any influence over distribution methods. Debian builds its package managers independently, Canonical manages its own, and Arch Linux follows its own path. Open source practices aren't strictly competitive; there are many established guidelines for application processes if you're willing to spend about 15 minutes reading them.
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DarthRy
03-28-2016, 11:10 AM #7

This claim is misleading. The kernel refers to the hardware support layer. Linus doesn't have any influence over distribution methods. Debian builds its package managers independently, Canonical manages its own, and Arch Linux follows its own path. Open source practices aren't strictly competitive; there are many established guidelines for application processes if you're willing to spend about 15 minutes reading them.

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ZlouKoT
Member
88
04-01-2016, 03:45 AM
#8
This claim isn't fully correct. Distributions primarily rely on two funding models: donations and commercial services. Examples include Canonical, Redhat, and Fedora. Their success depends heavily on user adoption, market presence, and brand recognition, which in turn drives revenue. This is why many spin-offs from major Linux distros often shut down quickly. View distributions as a cascading economy—major companies secure most support through partnerships like KDE, Cinnamon, or Gnome, which receive strong updates.
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ZlouKoT
04-01-2016, 03:45 AM #8

This claim isn't fully correct. Distributions primarily rely on two funding models: donations and commercial services. Examples include Canonical, Redhat, and Fedora. Their success depends heavily on user adoption, market presence, and brand recognition, which in turn drives revenue. This is why many spin-offs from major Linux distros often shut down quickly. View distributions as a cascading economy—major companies secure most support through partnerships like KDE, Cinnamon, or Gnome, which receive strong updates.

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ebelley16
Junior Member
5
04-01-2016, 04:17 AM
#9
I wouldn't find it bothershing to simply copy and paste commands into a terminal. Still, developers continue to create installers for Linux, such as vmware, and many just skip the effort since the repository system works well in most aspects. This isn't about the creators of any distribution; it's about the variety of options available. Hundreds of distributions exist, each pursuing unique objectives without forcing anyone to switch from Windows. They appear because a few individuals decided to build something tailored to their preferences rather than trying to push a one-size-fits-all solution. Most aren't aiming to replicate Windows but to offer freedom. Windows often falls short, and adopting it can lead to suboptimal experiences. If you're not convinced, Linux might not suit your needs. It's important to remember that simply adding more GUI isn't a magic fix—many users find they can achieve everything visually without needing to dig through command lines. For most people, the terminal remains a powerful, if sometimes frustrating, tool.
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ebelley16
04-01-2016, 04:17 AM #9

I wouldn't find it bothershing to simply copy and paste commands into a terminal. Still, developers continue to create installers for Linux, such as vmware, and many just skip the effort since the repository system works well in most aspects. This isn't about the creators of any distribution; it's about the variety of options available. Hundreds of distributions exist, each pursuing unique objectives without forcing anyone to switch from Windows. They appear because a few individuals decided to build something tailored to their preferences rather than trying to push a one-size-fits-all solution. Most aren't aiming to replicate Windows but to offer freedom. Windows often falls short, and adopting it can lead to suboptimal experiences. If you're not convinced, Linux might not suit your needs. It's important to remember that simply adding more GUI isn't a magic fix—many users find they can achieve everything visually without needing to dig through command lines. For most people, the terminal remains a powerful, if sometimes frustrating, tool.

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Betacookiex
Junior Member
45
04-01-2016, 04:49 AM
#10
I believe he's reached his limit right now.
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Betacookiex
04-01-2016, 04:49 AM #10

I believe he's reached his limit right now.

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