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Enhancing the Church's Network Infrastructure

Enhancing the Church's Network Infrastructure

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RedxAce
Junior Member
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07-08-2021, 09:07 AM
#1
ISP: Comcast Business (150/25) According to the title, my church asked for network upgrades. They need WiFi in three locations—office, church, and fellowship hall—and plan to add future streaming solutions. A local sales rep recommended Ubiquiti equipment, including a UniFi USW-LITE-16-POE Lite with eight ports (sufficient for current needs) and three UniFi 6 Pro Access Points. I checked Ubiquiti’s site and saw the UniFi Express Gateway. It’s unclear if it would replace the office AP or if the original hardware is enough. Any other options? Should the 16-port switch and three APs function well together?
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RedxAce
07-08-2021, 09:07 AM #1

ISP: Comcast Business (150/25) According to the title, my church asked for network upgrades. They need WiFi in three locations—office, church, and fellowship hall—and plan to add future streaming solutions. A local sales rep recommended Ubiquiti equipment, including a UniFi USW-LITE-16-POE Lite with eight ports (sufficient for current needs) and three UniFi 6 Pro Access Points. I checked Ubiquiti’s site and saw the UniFi Express Gateway. It’s unclear if it would replace the office AP or if the original hardware is enough. Any other options? Should the 16-port switch and three APs function well together?

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Monkeyroos04
Member
131
07-09-2021, 05:00 AM
#2
Consider using Ubiquiti properly and updating any existing gear. You don’t need their switches—just a budget PoE switch from TP-Link or similar. UniFi APs function independently and communicate with each other. The gateway is mainly for management, VPN, and logging data. It’s not essential unless you need extra features. I’d stick with at least the 6Pro series but look for bundle offers to save money. Make sure only essential equipment connects to the APs and set up a guest network. Otherwise, connections will become crowded quickly.
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Monkeyroos04
07-09-2021, 05:00 AM #2

Consider using Ubiquiti properly and updating any existing gear. You don’t need their switches—just a budget PoE switch from TP-Link or similar. UniFi APs function independently and communicate with each other. The gateway is mainly for management, VPN, and logging data. It’s not essential unless you need extra features. I’d stick with at least the 6Pro series but look for bundle offers to save money. Make sure only essential equipment connects to the APs and set up a guest network. Otherwise, connections will become crowded quickly.

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TehStratosHD
Senior Member
492
07-09-2021, 09:35 AM
#3
I really appreciate Ubiquiti for being very user-friendly. I operate a Dream Machine Pro along with several APs from them, but I don’t use their switches. They’re pricey, though, and while they’re cool, it’s not the best value. I recently purchased a few 24-port PoE++ switches on GovDeals for $50 each—they’re amazing!
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TehStratosHD
07-09-2021, 09:35 AM #3

I really appreciate Ubiquiti for being very user-friendly. I operate a Dream Machine Pro along with several APs from them, but I don’t use their switches. They’re pricey, though, and while they’re cool, it’s not the best value. I recently purchased a few 24-port PoE++ switches on GovDeals for $50 each—they’re amazing!

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07-09-2021, 11:11 AM
#4
The U6 Pro doesn’t need a UniFi switch; it uses standard 802.3af and should work with most PoE switches you might already have. The UniFi model is expensive and limited, offering only half the POE capability which isn’t worth it for that price. For the U6 Pro, the internet speed is likely too low and there aren’t enough network resources, making the U6 Plus a better choice. I’ve installed several U6 Plus units in my workspace (running OpenWrt) and they perform well. One common issue with UniFi equipment is needing a controller or PC-based software, which can be frustrating. If you’re into smart APs, Aruba gear is worth considering—it includes a free cloud management tool that works well for smaller setups.
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NilsBjoern8895
07-09-2021, 11:11 AM #4

The U6 Pro doesn’t need a UniFi switch; it uses standard 802.3af and should work with most PoE switches you might already have. The UniFi model is expensive and limited, offering only half the POE capability which isn’t worth it for that price. For the U6 Pro, the internet speed is likely too low and there aren’t enough network resources, making the U6 Plus a better choice. I’ve installed several U6 Plus units in my workspace (running OpenWrt) and they perform well. One common issue with UniFi equipment is needing a controller or PC-based software, which can be frustrating. If you’re into smart APs, Aruba gear is worth considering—it includes a free cloud management tool that works well for smaller setups.

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trayson65
Member
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07-10-2021, 08:57 AM
#5
GovDeals offers the best deals—just found out you can purchase firearms there, which is awesome!
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trayson65
07-10-2021, 08:57 AM #5

GovDeals offers the best deals—just found out you can purchase firearms there, which is awesome!

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M0rdeKaiser
Member
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07-10-2021, 04:52 PM
#6
A prayer alone couldn't resolve the Wi-Fi issues.
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M0rdeKaiser
07-10-2021, 04:52 PM #6

A prayer alone couldn't resolve the Wi-Fi issues.

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zeliotL
Member
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07-17-2021, 03:26 PM
#7
Thank you for sharing the details. Here’s a revised version of your message:

I appreciate everyone’s advice and suggestions. I presented them with several alternatives, and they chose the complete Ubiquiti configuration—specifically the LITE 16 PoE Switch and three UniFi 6 Pro APs. All installations were completed, and I began preparing for hardware setup when I encountered a problem. I connected the switch but couldn’t access it. I attempted to download the UniFi Network Server software and installed it on a PC, which worked fine—it recognized the switch and the APs, but it didn’t accept them properly. I tried resetting everything, power cycling the devices, and even using just one switch at a time. Despite these efforts, I still can’t get anything to connect. Mostly, I’m experiencing slow internet and difficulty loading webpages. I’m unsure where I went wrong. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Since I’ve never worked with Ubiquiti hardware before, this is entirely new territory for me.
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zeliotL
07-17-2021, 03:26 PM #7

Thank you for sharing the details. Here’s a revised version of your message:

I appreciate everyone’s advice and suggestions. I presented them with several alternatives, and they chose the complete Ubiquiti configuration—specifically the LITE 16 PoE Switch and three UniFi 6 Pro APs. All installations were completed, and I began preparing for hardware setup when I encountered a problem. I connected the switch but couldn’t access it. I attempted to download the UniFi Network Server software and installed it on a PC, which worked fine—it recognized the switch and the APs, but it didn’t accept them properly. I tried resetting everything, power cycling the devices, and even using just one switch at a time. Despite these efforts, I still can’t get anything to connect. Mostly, I’m experiencing slow internet and difficulty loading webpages. I’m unsure where I went wrong. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Since I’ve never worked with Ubiquiti hardware before, this is entirely new territory for me.

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HARRIBO45600
Member
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07-17-2021, 08:19 PM
#8
The logs don't display anything other than errors. You can locate them in the System Logs section (left bar clipboard), and adjusting the logging level in Settings > System > Advanced > Logging Levels to debug may help reveal more details.
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HARRIBO45600
07-17-2021, 08:19 PM #8

The logs don't display anything other than errors. You can locate them in the System Logs section (left bar clipboard), and adjusting the logging level in Settings > System > Advanced > Logging Levels to debug may help reveal more details.

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Endermen77
Member
51
07-25-2021, 08:54 AM
#9
What version of the Network Controller are you using? The latest one seems to include the InnerSpace option on the left sidebar. Often, switches or APs require a firmware upgrade before they can adopt new features. Make sure to install Putty on the device running the controller—you can connect via SSH now, though I still favor Putty for this purpose. Check out this cheat sheet for Ubiquiti SSH commands: https://lazyadmin.nl/home-network/unifi-ssh-commands/. Since your controller is up and you can view device IPs, that’s a big step forward. The default credentials for Ubiquiti devices are 'ubnt' for both username and password. Open Putty, type '[email protected]' in the Host Name field (assuming it matches your screen shot). You’ll be asked to enter the password—just confirm you typed it right and press Enter. A security warning will appear; click accept or yes. You should then see the Ubiquiti CLI. Type 'info' to verify adoption status. First, update the firmware using this link: https://www.ui.com/download/software/. Be sure to strip the 's' from some URLs if needed, as it can affect download success. For the switch, run: fwupdate --url http://dl.ui.com/unifi/firmware/USMULTUS...6.2129.bin. Let it complete, then attempt to re-adopt the APs if needed. Many devices come with outdated firmware that conflicts with newer controllers—be patient and repeat the process.
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Endermen77
07-25-2021, 08:54 AM #9

What version of the Network Controller are you using? The latest one seems to include the InnerSpace option on the left sidebar. Often, switches or APs require a firmware upgrade before they can adopt new features. Make sure to install Putty on the device running the controller—you can connect via SSH now, though I still favor Putty for this purpose. Check out this cheat sheet for Ubiquiti SSH commands: https://lazyadmin.nl/home-network/unifi-ssh-commands/. Since your controller is up and you can view device IPs, that’s a big step forward. The default credentials for Ubiquiti devices are 'ubnt' for both username and password. Open Putty, type '[email protected]' in the Host Name field (assuming it matches your screen shot). You’ll be asked to enter the password—just confirm you typed it right and press Enter. A security warning will appear; click accept or yes. You should then see the Ubiquiti CLI. Type 'info' to verify adoption status. First, update the firmware using this link: https://www.ui.com/download/software/. Be sure to strip the 's' from some URLs if needed, as it can affect download success. For the switch, run: fwupdate --url http://dl.ui.com/unifi/firmware/USMULTUS...6.2129.bin. Let it complete, then attempt to re-adopt the APs if needed. Many devices come with outdated firmware that conflicts with newer controllers—be patient and repeat the process.

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Kylixe
Junior Member
25
07-30-2021, 12:37 PM
#10
I'm planning to return tomorrow and execute these strategies, keeping you updated. Thanks! Edit: Should I consider adding a cloud gateway on top of the current hardware? Would it perform better than deploying UniFi Network Server on a PC?
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Kylixe
07-30-2021, 12:37 PM #10

I'm planning to return tomorrow and execute these strategies, keeping you updated. Thanks! Edit: Should I consider adding a cloud gateway on top of the current hardware? Would it perform better than deploying UniFi Network Server on a PC?

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