F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Encounter numerous WHEA 17 issues while employing ROG PCI-E riser with PCI-E Gen4 interface.

Encounter numerous WHEA 17 issues while employing ROG PCI-E riser with PCI-E Gen4 interface.

Encounter numerous WHEA 17 issues while employing ROG PCI-E riser with PCI-E Gen4 interface.

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Posterity
Junior Member
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03-25-2021, 05:40 AM
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The issue began after upgrading my PC a few months ago. I installed a water-cooling system for my Gigabyte 3090 Turbo, but it became too noisy. Later, I discovered it wasn’t compatible with my motherboard, so I purchased a PCI-E riser for the GPU. However, under heavy usage—like gaming—the system would crash unexpectedly. It would power off abruptly (causing a sudden black screen and turned-off RGB lights) or freeze (screen paused, effects stopped, no response to mouse or keyboard). While it doesn’t always happen, it occurs frequently.

During troubleshooting, I noticed numerous WHEA code 17 errors in the system logs, showing corrected hardware issues. The problem seemed linked to a PCI Express Root Port Error. After adjusting the BIOS settings to set the PCI-E speed to Gen 3, the errors disappeared, and crashes stopped. I suspect the riser might be faulty. The product page I bought on Taobao mentioned it supports both Gen 3 and Gen 4, but when searching for the link, no official details existed for Gen 4. It appears this could be the cause.

ROG had this product, possibly not available in retail stores. A forum member shared similar experiences, and here’s a relevant link: https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/previous-f...m-p/879502.

My setup details:
- OS: Windows 11 Enterprise 22H2
- CPU: Intel i9-12900K
- Motherboard: ROG Z690-I WIFI
- GPU: Modified Gigabyte 3090 Turbo (unchanged BIOS)
- RAM: Kingston FURY 32GB DDR5 5200
- Power Supply: Seasonic Focus GX1000

If you need more help, feel free to ask.
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Posterity
03-25-2021, 05:40 AM #1

The issue began after upgrading my PC a few months ago. I installed a water-cooling system for my Gigabyte 3090 Turbo, but it became too noisy. Later, I discovered it wasn’t compatible with my motherboard, so I purchased a PCI-E riser for the GPU. However, under heavy usage—like gaming—the system would crash unexpectedly. It would power off abruptly (causing a sudden black screen and turned-off RGB lights) or freeze (screen paused, effects stopped, no response to mouse or keyboard). While it doesn’t always happen, it occurs frequently.

During troubleshooting, I noticed numerous WHEA code 17 errors in the system logs, showing corrected hardware issues. The problem seemed linked to a PCI Express Root Port Error. After adjusting the BIOS settings to set the PCI-E speed to Gen 3, the errors disappeared, and crashes stopped. I suspect the riser might be faulty. The product page I bought on Taobao mentioned it supports both Gen 3 and Gen 4, but when searching for the link, no official details existed for Gen 4. It appears this could be the cause.

ROG had this product, possibly not available in retail stores. A forum member shared similar experiences, and here’s a relevant link: https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/previous-f...m-p/879502.

My setup details:
- OS: Windows 11 Enterprise 22H2
- CPU: Intel i9-12900K
- Motherboard: ROG Z690-I WIFI
- GPU: Modified Gigabyte 3090 Turbo (unchanged BIOS)
- RAM: Kingston FURY 32GB DDR5 5200
- Power Supply: Seasonic Focus GX1000

If you need more help, feel free to ask.

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Zaaerc_Br
Junior Member
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03-25-2021, 08:10 AM
#2
It seems the problem might be that they shipped you a Gen 3 instead of the Gen 4. Because it's difficult to confirm the difference, I suggest checking for any labels on the cable that might provide hints. Also, consider purchasing another cable from a retailer offering returns and see if this one resolves the issues—don’t return it if it doesn’t. The link you provided only mentions Gen 3 speeds.
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Zaaerc_Br
03-25-2021, 08:10 AM #2

It seems the problem might be that they shipped you a Gen 3 instead of the Gen 4. Because it's difficult to confirm the difference, I suggest checking for any labels on the cable that might provide hints. Also, consider purchasing another cable from a retailer offering returns and see if this one resolves the issues—don’t return it if it doesn’t. The link you provided only mentions Gen 3 speeds.

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AlexCG
Junior Member
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03-27-2021, 11:06 AM
#3
The problem occurred once the riser was added to your system.
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AlexCG
03-27-2021, 11:06 AM #3

The problem occurred once the riser was added to your system.

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Ender_Craft47
Posting Freak
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03-29-2021, 04:12 AM
#4
Sounds to me like it's a Gen 3 riser cable, either they didn't ship you the right one or it's a little sham that they pull. This is a very common issue with riser cables, if you want to run at Gen 4 you'll need to purchase a Gen 4 riser. I'd say get one from a reputable vendor/site this time.
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Ender_Craft47
03-29-2021, 04:12 AM #4

Sounds to me like it's a Gen 3 riser cable, either they didn't ship you the right one or it's a little sham that they pull. This is a very common issue with riser cables, if you want to run at Gen 4 you'll need to purchase a Gen 4 riser. I'd say get one from a reputable vendor/site this time.

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xSweedz
Junior Member
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04-02-2021, 11:23 PM
#5
It’s unclear why a board doesn’t work well with a GPU watercooling setup. Just insert the card into the PCI slot—it’s much more compact than an air cooler.
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xSweedz
04-02-2021, 11:23 PM #5

It’s unclear why a board doesn’t work well with a GPU watercooling setup. Just insert the card into the PCI slot—it’s much more compact than an air cooler.

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Zmondy
Senior Member
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04-03-2021, 04:36 AM
#6
Thanks! I’ll verify this with the seller. I didn’t know about this until I searched for a link to the riser. It seems there’s no product listed for “rog pcie gen4 riser.”
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Zmondy
04-03-2021, 04:36 AM #6

Thanks! I’ll verify this with the seller. I didn’t know about this until I searched for a link to the riser. It seems there’s no product listed for “rog pcie gen4 riser.”

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mini007xD
Junior Member
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04-05-2021, 01:58 AM
#7
It's about the backplate. The water cooling kit I purchased comes with a backplate featuring fins. It's thicker than the original design. Since it's an ITX motherboard, there are SSD armors available, and it sits very close to the PCIE slot. Installing the GPU becomes difficult due to this thickness. I've attached a picture for reference. This is the condition with the original backplate. There are SSD armors positioned under my CPU cooler, making it extremely tight. XD Update: I'm struggling to locate spots for my second CPU cooler fan. Update: I might switch to a white AIO kit just to avoid looking like an artwork killer. Photo 2 shows the PCIE riser setup. Edited May 22, 2023 by Flynnoct
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mini007xD
04-05-2021, 01:58 AM #7

It's about the backplate. The water cooling kit I purchased comes with a backplate featuring fins. It's thicker than the original design. Since it's an ITX motherboard, there are SSD armors available, and it sits very close to the PCIE slot. Installing the GPU becomes difficult due to this thickness. I've attached a picture for reference. This is the condition with the original backplate. There are SSD armors positioned under my CPU cooler, making it extremely tight. XD Update: I'm struggling to locate spots for my second CPU cooler fan. Update: I might switch to a white AIO kit just to avoid looking like an artwork killer. Photo 2 shows the PCIE riser setup. Edited May 22, 2023 by Flynnoct

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ThomGamer045
Member
157
04-13-2021, 01:11 AM
#8
Thank you! I'll reach out to the seller and verify the technical specifications of the cable.
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ThomGamer045
04-13-2021, 01:11 AM #8

Thank you! I'll reach out to the seller and verify the technical specifications of the cable.

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Eliazz
Junior Member
36
04-13-2021, 05:57 AM
#9
I don’t mean anything rude, but you got the wrong riser cable, so please return it and get a better one. I can’t suggest one that I’d never use—it’s clearly a flawed design in my opinion.
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Eliazz
04-13-2021, 05:57 AM #9

I don’t mean anything rude, but you got the wrong riser cable, so please return it and get a better one. I can’t suggest one that I’d never use—it’s clearly a flawed design in my opinion.

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Spriter80
Member
111
04-13-2021, 08:52 AM
#10
Your cooler is significantly oversized.
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Spriter80
04-13-2021, 08:52 AM #10

Your cooler is significantly oversized.

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