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ECC plays a crucial role in ensuring data integrity and system reliability.

ECC plays a crucial role in ensuring data integrity and system reliability.

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slades
Junior Member
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10-26-2017, 03:17 AM
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Hello! I'm speccing out a home server, preferably using a Ryzen 1700x I found for dirt cheap on local equivalents to craigslist. Ive done some research but the topic of ECC always comes up. Some say building a server without ECC is pointless as your entire setup is shit poopoo without, some say its nice to have but not a dealbreaker. I'm a bit lost. I'd only be using the server to store video and text documents, could they suddenly just be rendered useless and gone because I didnt shill out 3x the amount of money to get ECC memory?
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slades
10-26-2017, 03:17 AM #1

Hello! I'm speccing out a home server, preferably using a Ryzen 1700x I found for dirt cheap on local equivalents to craigslist. Ive done some research but the topic of ECC always comes up. Some say building a server without ECC is pointless as your entire setup is shit poopoo without, some say its nice to have but not a dealbreaker. I'm a bit lost. I'd only be using the server to store video and text documents, could they suddenly just be rendered useless and gone because I didnt shill out 3x the amount of money to get ECC memory?

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Mehta42
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10-26-2017, 03:48 AM
#2
You don't require ECC then
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Mehta42
10-26-2017, 03:48 AM #2

You don't require ECC then

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mccoop03
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10-29-2017, 02:44 AM
#3
ECC is suggested for NAS because RAM often acts as a cache. If a bit flips during the short time between storing a file in RAM and writing it to the HDDs, it might lead to improper writing and corruption on the server. Generally, such incidents are very uncommon when RAM meets JEDEC standards, making it not a major concern for home servers. Unless the extra cost is similar, it makes sense to invest in ECC for added security, though it would be a worthwhile expense only three times the cost of non-ECC.
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mccoop03
10-29-2017, 02:44 AM #3

ECC is suggested for NAS because RAM often acts as a cache. If a bit flips during the short time between storing a file in RAM and writing it to the HDDs, it might lead to improper writing and corruption on the server. Generally, such incidents are very uncommon when RAM meets JEDEC standards, making it not a major concern for home servers. Unless the extra cost is similar, it makes sense to invest in ECC for added security, though it would be a worthwhile expense only three times the cost of non-ECC.

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sp4rt4n104
Junior Member
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11-02-2017, 01:52 PM
#4
For a home server it's a bit rough. Ryzen doesn't offer full ECC support and not every motherboard has it. If you need it, I recommend an older Xeon—cheap and you can buy a complete setup (CPU, board, RAM) for under $100.
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sp4rt4n104
11-02-2017, 01:52 PM #4

For a home server it's a bit rough. Ryzen doesn't offer full ECC support and not every motherboard has it. If you need it, I recommend an older Xeon—cheap and you can buy a complete setup (CPU, board, RAM) for under $100.

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pizzapieboy
Member
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11-02-2017, 04:19 PM
#5
Using an NVMe or SATA SSD as a write cache could provide similar benefits to ECC, potentially reducing the risk of data corruption. However, it doesn't fully eliminate the issue compared to ECC.
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pizzapieboy
11-02-2017, 04:19 PM #5

Using an NVMe or SATA SSD as a write cache could provide similar benefits to ECC, potentially reducing the risk of data corruption. However, it doesn't fully eliminate the issue compared to ECC.

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n0eee
Member
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11-16-2017, 09:41 PM
#6
ECC handles error correction, unrelated to cache functionality.
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n0eee
11-16-2017, 09:41 PM #6

ECC handles error correction, unrelated to cache functionality.

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MikeGamer15YT
Member
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11-22-2017, 04:24 AM
#7
Your setup likely lacks ECC support. You usually don’t run into problems, except during heavy issues like crashes. ECC won<|pad|> can't really help here. If you're using ZFS, there isn't a solid write cache that applies in most cases.
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MikeGamer15YT
11-22-2017, 04:24 AM #7

Your setup likely lacks ECC support. You usually don’t run into problems, except during heavy issues like crashes. ECC won<|pad|> can't really help here. If you're using ZFS, there isn't a solid write cache that applies in most cases.

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ISY_0815
Senior Member
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11-22-2017, 10:36 AM
#8
The potential issues are already minimal, shifting from around 0.0001% probability to zero with ECC. For regular users, a bit flip is virtually impossible. It becomes relevant only in large-scale environments with thousands or millions of devices needing near-perfect reliability. Consider using RAM as a cache—it's irrelevant for home servers.
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ISY_0815
11-22-2017, 10:36 AM #8

The potential issues are already minimal, shifting from around 0.0001% probability to zero with ECC. For regular users, a bit flip is virtually impossible. It becomes relevant only in large-scale environments with thousands or millions of devices needing near-perfect reliability. Consider using RAM as a cache—it's irrelevant for home servers.

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Rubicube59
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11-22-2017, 06:30 PM
#9
That provides a great sense of reassurance. Thanks!
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Rubicube59
11-22-2017, 06:30 PM #9

That provides a great sense of reassurance. Thanks!

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Gunner2000
Member
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11-24-2017, 07:19 PM
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No one has a widely accepted memory error rate, but estimates vary widely. Your figure of 1 per GB per year seems high compared to other sources. Errors in RAM can sometimes be harmless if they occur in non-critical or unused sections, or might appear briefly during gameplay without lasting impact. In rare cases, bit flips can lead to glitches or crashes that reset quickly, which are often dismissed as normal hardware quirks.
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Gunner2000
11-24-2017, 07:19 PM #10

No one has a widely accepted memory error rate, but estimates vary widely. Your figure of 1 per GB per year seems high compared to other sources. Errors in RAM can sometimes be harmless if they occur in non-critical or unused sections, or might appear briefly during gameplay without lasting impact. In rare cases, bit flips can lead to glitches or crashes that reset quickly, which are often dismissed as normal hardware quirks.

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