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DrD3 5 causes an issue... basic tech level

DrD3 5 causes an issue... basic tech level

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AJRaps1
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04-18-2021, 10:31 PM
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video 1 focuses on desktop RAM, mainly discussing server MB and G-Skill RAM without heat spreaders. video2 covers DDR5 technology and its functionality along with other topics. the title reflects my past habit of yelling about cooling, though I’ve been using lower power CPUs lately. airflow is essential now. many PC issues persist today... play Wack A Wool. Edited January 10 by thrasher_565
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AJRaps1
04-18-2021, 10:31 PM #1

video 1 focuses on desktop RAM, mainly discussing server MB and G-Skill RAM without heat spreaders. video2 covers DDR5 technology and its functionality along with other topics. the title reflects my past habit of yelling about cooling, though I’ve been using lower power CPUs lately. airflow is essential now. many PC issues persist today... play Wack A Wool. Edited January 10 by thrasher_565

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SayNoToNWO
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04-20-2021, 08:40 PM
#2
The statement suggests a deeper explanation of the idea, focusing on its meaning and implications without needing visual context.
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SayNoToNWO
04-20-2021, 08:40 PM #2

The statement suggests a deeper explanation of the idea, focusing on its meaning and implications without needing visual context.

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PurpleBella8
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04-21-2021, 01:32 AM
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I observed a clip briefly and in the footage he highlights DDR5 memory modules operating at high speeds inside a poorly ventilated case. This setup can lead to overheating, causing memory errors and instability, including blue screens. He notes design weaknesses in certain modules where critical parts are prone to heat buildup. He also shares ideas about future developments where faster RAM might produce even more heat, possibly requiring advanced error correction such as ECC modules. Most newcomers usually focus on the CPU and GPU when thinking about overheating, often overlooking memory issues. I didn't watch both videos, just one of them in detail.
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PurpleBella8
04-21-2021, 01:32 AM #3

I observed a clip briefly and in the footage he highlights DDR5 memory modules operating at high speeds inside a poorly ventilated case. This setup can lead to overheating, causing memory errors and instability, including blue screens. He notes design weaknesses in certain modules where critical parts are prone to heat buildup. He also shares ideas about future developments where faster RAM might produce even more heat, possibly requiring advanced error correction such as ECC modules. Most newcomers usually focus on the CPU and GPU when thinking about overheating, often overlooking memory issues. I didn't watch both videos, just one of them in detail.

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yoyoposay
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04-22-2021, 10:54 PM
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thought long time ago when ddr5 came out they ran hot but i think people forgot about it. water cooling it is hard because most have glued on heat spreaders and you pay more with ram with out one. has to do with the chip on top middle getting hot and was put at the top for better air flow. using some shroud works better with ram with no heat spreader. a small fan blow at it seems to help the problem. didn't really go in to details how much cooling one need in the case. so really more questions then answers but i mean you live in a place that hot or summer time and might see problems. its kinda like the nvme over heating and gpus dumping its heat at it. 4 sticks of ram also cause more heat then 2 sticks kinda a problem being avoided. also is it for the really fast ram or ram oced who knows... oh he dose say desktop need more testing as he deals mostly with server stuff. Edited January 10 by thrasher_565
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yoyoposay
04-22-2021, 10:54 PM #4

thought long time ago when ddr5 came out they ran hot but i think people forgot about it. water cooling it is hard because most have glued on heat spreaders and you pay more with ram with out one. has to do with the chip on top middle getting hot and was put at the top for better air flow. using some shroud works better with ram with no heat spreader. a small fan blow at it seems to help the problem. didn't really go in to details how much cooling one need in the case. so really more questions then answers but i mean you live in a place that hot or summer time and might see problems. its kinda like the nvme over heating and gpus dumping its heat at it. 4 sticks of ram also cause more heat then 2 sticks kinda a problem being avoided. also is it for the really fast ram or ram oced who knows... oh he dose say desktop need more testing as he deals mostly with server stuff. Edited January 10 by thrasher_565

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MadMar
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04-26-2021, 08:33 PM
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DDR5 is designed to slow down when it gets too warm, but some ASUS Threadripper boards don’t work this way, raising worries about other models being affected. Desktop DDR5 systems aren’t always protected in the same way, so making sure your RAM has proper airflow could help prevent issues. Many people assume faulty RAM is bad, but overheating is often the real cause—especially since DDR5 heats up more than DDR4 and uses its built-in voltage regulator. Without a heatsink but with good airflow, RAM is less likely to fail compared to those with a heatsink and limited ventilation.
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MadMar
04-26-2021, 08:33 PM #5

DDR5 is designed to slow down when it gets too warm, but some ASUS Threadripper boards don’t work this way, raising worries about other models being affected. Desktop DDR5 systems aren’t always protected in the same way, so making sure your RAM has proper airflow could help prevent issues. Many people assume faulty RAM is bad, but overheating is often the real cause—especially since DDR5 heats up more than DDR4 and uses its built-in voltage regulator. Without a heatsink but with good airflow, RAM is less likely to fail compared to those with a heatsink and limited ventilation.

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Jujuspinx
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05-04-2021, 04:19 AM
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It is long known that at higher temperatures silicon can become less stable. Product specification on operating conditions include that, so in normal use, that margin is accounted for. High in-spec temperatures are not a problem. Moving it onto ram, the question then is, at what temps could that start to become a problem? I just started hwinfo64 and will do some routine gaming shortly, since my system hasn't been on long and is probably still warming up. The ram reports "SPD Hub Temperature" and has a yes/no on "PMIC High Temperature". I do have 2 sticks in a 4 slot board, so there is little space between them. I have a FE GPU so the exhaust of the blow-through fan does put heated air into the ram area. I couldn't find a written spec for my ram's operating temperature. The SPD reports "Temperature Limit 55.0 degC (high limit), 85.0 degC (critical limit)". This can be found if you save the full report from CPU-Z. Search for "SPD" and look around there. Edit: I did some light gaming. These games are capped at 60 fps so don't push the system that hard. Peak temp recorded 38.2C, peak power 4.25W. 8 minutes of Prime95 Large: Peak temp recorded 54.2C, peak power 6.25W. Temps might not have topped out yet as they were gradually rising over time.
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Jujuspinx
05-04-2021, 04:19 AM #6

It is long known that at higher temperatures silicon can become less stable. Product specification on operating conditions include that, so in normal use, that margin is accounted for. High in-spec temperatures are not a problem. Moving it onto ram, the question then is, at what temps could that start to become a problem? I just started hwinfo64 and will do some routine gaming shortly, since my system hasn't been on long and is probably still warming up. The ram reports "SPD Hub Temperature" and has a yes/no on "PMIC High Temperature". I do have 2 sticks in a 4 slot board, so there is little space between them. I have a FE GPU so the exhaust of the blow-through fan does put heated air into the ram area. I couldn't find a written spec for my ram's operating temperature. The SPD reports "Temperature Limit 55.0 degC (high limit), 85.0 degC (critical limit)". This can be found if you save the full report from CPU-Z. Search for "SPD" and look around there. Edit: I did some light gaming. These games are capped at 60 fps so don't push the system that hard. Peak temp recorded 38.2C, peak power 4.25W. 8 minutes of Prime95 Large: Peak temp recorded 54.2C, peak power 6.25W. Temps might not have topped out yet as they were gradually rising over time.