Does the computer crash when flash content is used?
Does the computer crash when flash content is used?
Not an issue. The Flash app might perform better at identifying soft errors, and/or voltage instability during frequent load changes typical in real scenarios. Consider using Asus RealBench to replicate variable load conditions.
Andy0432 asked for clarification on why his PC maintained a P95 score for an hour despite struggling with flash applications. He noted the tests were intense but didn’t show voltage issues, only extreme CPU stress. Scuzzycard suggested the Flash app might be sensitive to minor errors and that voltage instability could occur during frequent load changes. He also pointed out that the games listed weren’t known for quick loading, which could affect performance under stress.
Prime95 maintains a steady 100% load, allowing the VRM to run at nearly constant power. Flash behaves as a fluctuating load, changing significantly based on app activity, forcing the VRM to constantly switch between idle and full capacity. These rapid changes might lead to crashes due to the VRM struggling to meet the CPU's demands efficiently.
InvalidError :
Prime95 operates at 100% load, causing the VRM to run nearly at full power. Flash behaves unpredictably due to variable demands in the application, forcing the VRM to constantly switch between idle and maximum states. This instability may lead to crashes as the VRM struggles to maintain performance.
Testing confirmed several points:
- Clock speed has no impact on Flash stability
- Voltages exceeding 1.380v (actual is 1.368) trigger crashes
- Crashes persist even after passing a P95 stress test
- Disabling LLC resolves the issue completely, though P95 tests remain unstable
- Changing from "Manual" to "Offset" helps mitigate the problem
Any suggestions on resolving this situation?
Andy0432 :
Looking for suggestions on resolving the issue.
Maybe someone with overclocking experience can help?
Also, consider stopping Flash and OCing temporarily.
Alternatively, try a different motherboard to see if its VRM improves performance.
Or wait until Zen/Kaby releases and upgrade your PC.
InvalidError :
Andy0432 :
Any suggestions on resolving this issue?
Hm...
- share details about the motherboard so overclocking experts can help
- stop using Flash
- discontinue OC attempts
- try another motherboard and check VRM performance
- wait for Zen/Kaby updates before upgrading
- my specs are listed, motherboard is an M5A97 R2.0 (not the LE version which lacks VRM heatsinks)
- Flash is common, the first crash occurred when viewing a banner with Flash
- I need more power
- I'm holding out for Zen/Kaby release and don't want to invest in a failing system
- ^^
I use Adblock and Flashblock, but Flash is only present when I actually choose to have it.
I took it very personally when a website displayed a loud Flash ad on my PC at 3AM a few years ago, and I won’t let that happen again.
Given your motherboard seems to struggle with frequent large transients, your choices are limited. You might try forcing the minimum CPU state to 100% in advanced power management settings to disable dynamic CPU clock. Be aware this could raise your monthly power and cooling costs by up to $10 per month if you leave your PC running continuously. That’s roughly half the cost of an i5-6600k/7600k after a year of high energy use.
InvalidError :
Adblock and Flashblock are active, Flash is only present when you choose to enable it.
I felt strongly when a website displayed a loud Flash ad on my PC at 3AM a few years back, and I won’t let that happen again.
Given your motherboard seems struggling with frequent large spikes, your choices are limited. You might attempt forcing the CPU to stay at 100% in advanced power management to turn off dynamic clocking. Be aware this could raise your monthly electricity and cooling costs by up to $10 if your PC runs continuously. That’s roughly half the price of an i5-6600k/7600k after a year of high energy use.
Hmmmmm, maybe I just found a fix. I changed Windows 10 power settings from "high performance" to "Balanced". I’m still checking if it works.
Andy0432 shared their experience of changing the power settings in Windows 10 from "high performance" to "Balanced." They mentioned that while this might help, it's not a permanent solution and crashes can still occur in certain situations. The change allows the clock speed to decrease for less demanding tasks, which helps stabilize voltage fluctuations by reducing overall chip current. Suggesting a more stable adjustment would be beneficial.