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Do you require drivers for your older system?

Do you require drivers for your older system?

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FakieLife
Member
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10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#1
I just reinstalled Windows 10 on computers from 2014 Hasswell processor 4th generation. I’m checking the drivers on Asus motherboard manufacturer site. When trying to install the Chipset driver, a pop-up appeared stating that one of the files is already newer than the one I’m attempting to install. Do Windows today provide all drivers? I could install the Chipset in any way, but this feels like a 5th reinstall because I had major issues with my AMD R9 270X graphics card and the AMD Display driver. It installs with Adrenalin and turns my monitors black. After removing it, Windows offered an update, which I installed again, thinking it would be better if it came from Microsoft, but it still gave me a black screen. I don’t want to install anything that might contain it. So far, Windows doesn’t offer a Display Driver, and the graphics card seems to be working. This is going to be an office computer handling Electronic Health Records in the cloud. I’ve installed Windows updates, can I skip the drivers? I need SATA controller driver, LAN, and Audio. Right now it only shows S/PDIF High Definition Audio; maybe installing Realtek Audio would help? Thank you very much.
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FakieLife
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #1

I just reinstalled Windows 10 on computers from 2014 Hasswell processor 4th generation. I’m checking the drivers on Asus motherboard manufacturer site. When trying to install the Chipset driver, a pop-up appeared stating that one of the files is already newer than the one I’m attempting to install. Do Windows today provide all drivers? I could install the Chipset in any way, but this feels like a 5th reinstall because I had major issues with my AMD R9 270X graphics card and the AMD Display driver. It installs with Adrenalin and turns my monitors black. After removing it, Windows offered an update, which I installed again, thinking it would be better if it came from Microsoft, but it still gave me a black screen. I don’t want to install anything that might contain it. So far, Windows doesn’t offer a Display Driver, and the graphics card seems to be working. This is going to be an office computer handling Electronic Health Records in the cloud. I’ve installed Windows updates, can I skip the drivers? I need SATA controller driver, LAN, and Audio. Right now it only shows S/PDIF High Definition Audio; maybe installing Realtek Audio would help? Thank you very much.

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CocaCola15
Senior Member
603
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#2
Currently, Windows provides drivers for most systems. However, if you didn't install the OS offline, it likely downloaded its own drivers online and selected the ones it believed were suitable. This approach is often unreliable, which is why users are encouraged to manually install all drivers in an elevated command. If the system runs smoothly without issues, you might be able to skip driver installation.
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CocaCola15
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #2

Currently, Windows provides drivers for most systems. However, if you didn't install the OS offline, it likely downloaded its own drivers online and selected the ones it believed were suitable. This approach is often unreliable, which is why users are encouraged to manually install all drivers in an elevated command. If the system runs smoothly without issues, you might be able to skip driver installation.

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ice4lunch
Junior Member
37
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#3
I actually reinstalled the OS in Offline mode. I didn’t like having a local account created, which has made things confusing because I ended up having to connect again and now I’m unsure if I’m in an administrator account or a user account. But after connecting later, it installed the H2 updates and everything is working fine.

Do I need a VGA driver? I usually install everything from the Asus site, but now I want to be more selective.

Should I install the chipset? It says one of the files is already newer than what I’m installing.

"DO" install Audio and SATA? Sorry if I didn’t understand it the first time. Lol.

I get it about Windows 10—I’m planning to build new systems now, but I don’t have a budget right now. I opened a psych practice and can’t see patients without computers, so I have to use what I have. Thanks.
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ice4lunch
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #3

I actually reinstalled the OS in Offline mode. I didn’t like having a local account created, which has made things confusing because I ended up having to connect again and now I’m unsure if I’m in an administrator account or a user account. But after connecting later, it installed the H2 updates and everything is working fine.

Do I need a VGA driver? I usually install everything from the Asus site, but now I want to be more selective.

Should I install the chipset? It says one of the files is already newer than what I’m installing.

"DO" install Audio and SATA? Sorry if I didn’t understand it the first time. Lol.

I get it about Windows 10—I’m planning to build new systems now, but I don’t have a budget right now. I opened a psych practice and can’t see patients without computers, so I have to use what I have. Thanks.

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lufos0909
Junior Member
20
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#4
Do you really need the R9 270X? Your i7 4770k already has an IGP (HD Graphics 4600) and your P8Z77-V PRO supports DisplayPort, HDMI and VGA outputs, so if you're not gaming you could skip it. The main issue is that driver support for 1st gen GCN stopped in 2022 and has been unreliable for a long time. The modded NimeZ drivers I recommended are mixed and matched from various revisions to try and find a working one, which isn't ideal for a health records office PC.

BTW the Haswell 4770k won't work on Z77 motherboards, so you likely have an Ivy Bridge chipset with HD Graphics 4000.
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lufos0909
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #4

Do you really need the R9 270X? Your i7 4770k already has an IGP (HD Graphics 4600) and your P8Z77-V PRO supports DisplayPort, HDMI and VGA outputs, so if you're not gaming you could skip it. The main issue is that driver support for 1st gen GCN stopped in 2022 and has been unreliable for a long time. The modded NimeZ drivers I recommended are mixed and matched from various revisions to try and find a working one, which isn't ideal for a health records office PC.

BTW the Haswell 4770k won't work on Z77 motherboards, so you likely have an Ivy Bridge chipset with HD Graphics 4000.

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xxuhuy
Member
129
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#5
Thank you for your reply. I have several builds, likely more than seven, which could cause confusion. I also brought Ivy Bridge to the office and am trying to troubleshoot it. That one has its own issues. lol. I’ll share about it once I finish with Haswell, and it uses an Asus Z87 Pro V. My signature stays on the oldest build to mark where things began for me. lol. Thank you for noticing. As far as graphics cards go, you’re right—my card isn’t necessary but should work better than the Intel one, so I just want it to function properly. Removing it is always an option if everything fails. Right now, the card is working fine, and I hope it stays that way without any display driver conflicts.

Do I need to install a VGA driver? It seems like an Intell graphics accelerator, which makes me uncomfortable with video-related stuff due to the problems we’ve discussed.

Does the chipset include a display driver? I’m curious because my folders mentioned something about an AMD chipset, which is strange since it’s an Intel system. I’m wondering if the display driver is hidden in the chipset folder or if I’m being too suspicious because I don’t know enough. Thank you.
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xxuhuy
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #5

Thank you for your reply. I have several builds, likely more than seven, which could cause confusion. I also brought Ivy Bridge to the office and am trying to troubleshoot it. That one has its own issues. lol. I’ll share about it once I finish with Haswell, and it uses an Asus Z87 Pro V. My signature stays on the oldest build to mark where things began for me. lol. Thank you for noticing. As far as graphics cards go, you’re right—my card isn’t necessary but should work better than the Intel one, so I just want it to function properly. Removing it is always an option if everything fails. Right now, the card is working fine, and I hope it stays that way without any display driver conflicts.

Do I need to install a VGA driver? It seems like an Intell graphics accelerator, which makes me uncomfortable with video-related stuff due to the problems we’ve discussed.

Does the chipset include a display driver? I’m curious because my folders mentioned something about an AMD chipset, which is strange since it’s an Intel system. I’m wondering if the display driver is hidden in the chipset folder or if I’m being too suspicious because I don’t know enough. Thank you.

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TheRubyPickaxe
Junior Member
6
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#6
This situation doesn't seem to be typical, and for an office PC you should also account for the 270X which consumes up to 180 watts and even uses an additional 20 watts when idle compared to the IGP, potentially doubling its idle power draw.
The Microsoft Basic Display Adapter, the driver installed before any specific driver for the 270X is applied, offers significantly less performance since it completely disables hardware acceleration and relies on software emulation via the CPU.
All obsolete drivers will present issues, but most won't cause a complete black screen. Removing the card would allow WindowsUpdate to install the Intel IGP drivers, though the latest Haswell IGP drivers and Ivy Bridge ones are available.
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TheRubyPickaxe
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #6

This situation doesn't seem to be typical, and for an office PC you should also account for the 270X which consumes up to 180 watts and even uses an additional 20 watts when idle compared to the IGP, potentially doubling its idle power draw.
The Microsoft Basic Display Adapter, the driver installed before any specific driver for the 270X is applied, offers significantly less performance since it completely disables hardware acceleration and relies on software emulation via the CPU.
All obsolete drivers will present issues, but most won't cause a complete black screen. Removing the card would allow WindowsUpdate to install the Intel IGP drivers, though the latest Haswell IGP drivers and Ivy Bridge ones are available.

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luisgamer_1271
Junior Member
3
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#7
Guess what! No, nothing good... So I installed a Chipset, right...? Nothing happened, everything seems fine, but I’m trying to figure out what else I need to install. About five minutes later, I heard "Tam dam dam!" and it went back to the Black Screen again! Is this related to the Chipset or something else? The sound felt like a connection was lost—hardware issue. I was checking for updates at that time, but it didn’t ask if I wanted to install anything...

I turned off the power and restarted. It showed the Asus logo first, then even Windows, but after Windows it stayed black.

After disconnecting the power and restarting again, it entered its old Repair mode. The new behavior was before it was failing, it said it would fix the problem and then it booted up! It mentioned uninstalling a recent update, saying there was an issue with .NET—probably reinstalled it or something. I can’t find an Update History button...
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luisgamer_1271
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #7

Guess what! No, nothing good... So I installed a Chipset, right...? Nothing happened, everything seems fine, but I’m trying to figure out what else I need to install. About five minutes later, I heard "Tam dam dam!" and it went back to the Black Screen again! Is this related to the Chipset or something else? The sound felt like a connection was lost—hardware issue. I was checking for updates at that time, but it didn’t ask if I wanted to install anything...

I turned off the power and restarted. It showed the Asus logo first, then even Windows, but after Windows it stayed black.

After disconnecting the power and restarting again, it entered its old Repair mode. The new behavior was before it was failing, it said it would fix the problem and then it booted up! It mentioned uninstalling a recent update, saying there was an issue with .NET—probably reinstalled it or something. I can’t find an Update History button...

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10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#8
I can use a computer but it only sees one monitor, even though two are connected. The system mentions using Basic Intell Driver from 2006, but it fails to detect the second monitor. Disappointing. I've been working on it for six hours today...
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WitherStarWolf
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #8

I can use a computer but it only sees one monitor, even though two are connected. The system mentions using Basic Intell Driver from 2006, but it fails to detect the second monitor. Disappointing. I've been working on it for six hours today...

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FRANDC_BR
Member
162
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#9
So the issue is that whatever was removed or for some other reason, I can't get it to function with the Dua display. Even without a graphics card, the onboard graphic still performs the same action, which doesn't detect the second monitor but instead shows both in duplicate mode displaying identical content.
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FRANDC_BR
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #9

So the issue is that whatever was removed or for some other reason, I can't get it to function with the Dua display. Even without a graphics card, the onboard graphic still performs the same action, which doesn't detect the second monitor but instead shows both in duplicate mode displaying identical content.

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niklasgta
Junior Member
20
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM
#10
Remove the mention of discrete graphics card. It isn't necessary and creates issues. Install Intel graphics drivers. Without them, multiple monitor options might not work. Look for the Intel Graphics accelerator driver on the support page for your motherboard model. Z87-PRO(V EDITION) - Support
www.asus.com
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niklasgta
10-01-2025, 11:23 PM #10

Remove the mention of discrete graphics card. It isn't necessary and creates issues. Install Intel graphics drivers. Without them, multiple monitor options might not work. Look for the Intel Graphics accelerator driver on the support page for your motherboard model. Z87-PRO(V EDITION) - Support
www.asus.com

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