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Discussing RAM and CPU constraints

Discussing RAM and CPU constraints

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ReelFishn
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06-10-2022, 12:26 PM
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I’m wrapping up my new build and one of the final components is memory. I own an x570s MSI tomahawk with a Ryzen 5800X3D. I checked the specs on the 5800X3D page and wanted to understand the maximum speeds mentioned. I was thinking about buying four dual-rank 16GB 3600 MT/s GSkill modules. I should mention the RAM timings for my planned purchase: 14-15-15-35. You can find the details here: https://www.gskill.com/specification/165...cification. It seems like the numbers might not be ideal for performance gains, but I appreciate having all slots filled as long as it doesn’t hurt speed. I’m wondering if these speeds would actually slow the system down noticeably compared to a dual-rank setup, and whether XMP can push it beyond 3200 MT/s or if I need to tweak the memory ratios manually.
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ReelFishn
06-10-2022, 12:26 PM #1

I’m wrapping up my new build and one of the final components is memory. I own an x570s MSI tomahawk with a Ryzen 5800X3D. I checked the specs on the 5800X3D page and wanted to understand the maximum speeds mentioned. I was thinking about buying four dual-rank 16GB 3600 MT/s GSkill modules. I should mention the RAM timings for my planned purchase: 14-15-15-35. You can find the details here: https://www.gskill.com/specification/165...cification. It seems like the numbers might not be ideal for performance gains, but I appreciate having all slots filled as long as it doesn’t hurt speed. I’m wondering if these speeds would actually slow the system down noticeably compared to a dual-rank setup, and whether XMP can push it beyond 3200 MT/s or if I need to tweak the memory ratios manually.

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Erykane67
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06-10-2022, 07:50 PM
#2
It will be tough running quad rank Samsung B die, and getting 3600 CL14 to function is even more challenging. If you truly require 64GB of RAM, opt for a 4x16GB single rank package such as 3200CL16 or 3600CL18. This will likely perform better than struggling with 3600 in that configuration. These are the officially supported rates; XMP profiles can push performance further. Typically, the limits for the Ryzen memory controller are around 4800MT/s for single rank, 4000MT/s for dual rank, and between 3200 and 3466MT/s for quad rank—depending on the specific memory IC and controller quality. Still, with a 5800X3D chip, investing in top-tier RAM isn’t necessary. The 3D V-Cache significantly reduces the importance of RAM speed for most applications. Moreover, if you aim for premium RAM builds, switching to AM5 and DDR5 kits would be wiser, as a solid DDR5 package is more affordable than a DDR4 one at this stage. A budget-friendly 3200CL16 will offer little performance benefit over a 3800CL14 unit, unless you’re testing extreme conditions.
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Erykane67
06-10-2022, 07:50 PM #2

It will be tough running quad rank Samsung B die, and getting 3600 CL14 to function is even more challenging. If you truly require 64GB of RAM, opt for a 4x16GB single rank package such as 3200CL16 or 3600CL18. This will likely perform better than struggling with 3600 in that configuration. These are the officially supported rates; XMP profiles can push performance further. Typically, the limits for the Ryzen memory controller are around 4800MT/s for single rank, 4000MT/s for dual rank, and between 3200 and 3466MT/s for quad rank—depending on the specific memory IC and controller quality. Still, with a 5800X3D chip, investing in top-tier RAM isn’t necessary. The 3D V-Cache significantly reduces the importance of RAM speed for most applications. Moreover, if you aim for premium RAM builds, switching to AM5 and DDR5 kits would be wiser, as a solid DDR5 package is more affordable than a DDR4 one at this stage. A budget-friendly 3200CL16 will offer little performance benefit over a 3800CL14 unit, unless you’re testing extreme conditions.

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leprincePOSAY
Junior Member
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06-15-2022, 04:20 AM
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Great! You're welcome.
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leprincePOSAY
06-15-2022, 04:20 AM #3

Great! You're welcome.

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Dridri330
Junior Member
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06-15-2022, 06:23 AM
#4
This configuration seems suitable. It lists a single 16GB unit within a group of four.
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Dridri330
06-15-2022, 06:23 AM #4

This configuration seems suitable. It lists a single 16GB unit within a group of four.

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samosaara
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06-15-2022, 08:06 AM
#5
That setup should work well. You're likely to locate a more affordable version, but for this particular kit, the XMP feature should provide reliability.
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samosaara
06-15-2022, 08:06 AM #5

That setup should work well. You're likely to locate a more affordable version, but for this particular kit, the XMP feature should provide reliability.