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Seve_PT
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12-09-2021, 08:48 PM
#1
I've been studying DDR5 and finding it confusing with mixed advice. For gaming and an AM5 upgrade, you'll want to focus on memory options. The Corsair Vengeance RGB 5600MHz CL36 kits with EXPO are a solid choice.
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Seve_PT
12-09-2021, 08:48 PM #1

I've been studying DDR5 and finding it confusing with mixed advice. For gaming and an AM5 upgrade, you'll want to focus on memory options. The Corsair Vengeance RGB 5600MHz CL36 kits with EXPO are a solid choice.

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xFyUZx
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12-09-2021, 08:53 PM
#2
Generally, quicker performance wins and reduced latency wins. In gaming, lower latency usually trumps speed. Yet @RONOTHAN## will likely highlight that DDR5 primary timings aren’t as crucial anymore (I’m still not fully grasping the details, so I hope they can clarify). Still, there are diminishing returns—beyond a certain point, improvements become minimal and costly. For Ryzen DDR5 6000, it seems to be the optimal balance, and pushing further isn’t practical.
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xFyUZx
12-09-2021, 08:53 PM #2

Generally, quicker performance wins and reduced latency wins. In gaming, lower latency usually trumps speed. Yet @RONOTHAN## will likely highlight that DDR5 primary timings aren’t as crucial anymore (I’m still not fully grasping the details, so I hope they can clarify). Still, there are diminishing returns—beyond a certain point, improvements become minimal and costly. For Ryzen DDR5 6000, it seems to be the optimal balance, and pushing further isn’t practical.

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12-23-2021, 09:23 PM
#3
Thank you for the guidance. I was considering the Corsair Vengeance RGB 5600 CL36 at £169, but I’ll look into the 6000 model instead.
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gustavbengters
12-23-2021, 09:23 PM #3

Thank you for the guidance. I was considering the Corsair Vengeance RGB 5600 CL36 at £169, but I’ll look into the 6000 model instead.

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GoPatriots1
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01-10-2022, 01:46 AM
#4
It seems quicker kits aren't the best solution. The Ryzen memory controller performs well but reaches a significant limit around 6100 to 6400MT/s, depending on the CPU. Aiming for 6000MT/s is more about finding a reliable speed rather than an ideal sweet spot seen in earlier generations. Memory controllers usually target the slower timings since they're typically the least precise. For DDR5, especially with its complex bank group structure and loose primary timings, those settings are rarely used. I ran a test in PYPrime 2B using various timings on a 13700K with a 6000CL36 chip, showing only a 1% difference between CL36-36-36-96 and CL30-38-38-96 scores. With Ryzen processors, the gap will be even smaller due to their memory architecture. DDR5 5600 remains a solid choice, particularly if you're targeting AM5. The main drawback is the cost—32GB 5600CL36 should cost around £130-150, not the £170 you see elsewhere. That price point matches what you'd expect for a 6000CL36 unit, though better options might exist with further research.
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GoPatriots1
01-10-2022, 01:46 AM #4

It seems quicker kits aren't the best solution. The Ryzen memory controller performs well but reaches a significant limit around 6100 to 6400MT/s, depending on the CPU. Aiming for 6000MT/s is more about finding a reliable speed rather than an ideal sweet spot seen in earlier generations. Memory controllers usually target the slower timings since they're typically the least precise. For DDR5, especially with its complex bank group structure and loose primary timings, those settings are rarely used. I ran a test in PYPrime 2B using various timings on a 13700K with a 6000CL36 chip, showing only a 1% difference between CL36-36-36-96 and CL30-38-38-96 scores. With Ryzen processors, the gap will be even smaller due to their memory architecture. DDR5 5600 remains a solid choice, particularly if you're targeting AM5. The main drawback is the cost—32GB 5600CL36 should cost around £130-150, not the £170 you see elsewhere. That price point matches what you'd expect for a 6000CL36 unit, though better options might exist with further research.

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Periqito14YT
Junior Member
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01-11-2022, 11:38 PM
#5
Thanks for the input. I'll continue exploring options around those specifications. The 5600 CL36 and 6000 CL36 models are solid choices, and I've noticed similar ADATA products available at comparable prices. These kits are generally reliable, just like the Corsair ones you mentioned.
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Periqito14YT
01-11-2022, 11:38 PM #5

Thanks for the input. I'll continue exploring options around those specifications. The 5600 CL36 and 6000 CL36 models are solid choices, and I've noticed similar ADATA products available at comparable prices. These kits are generally reliable, just like the Corsair ones you mentioned.

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EndermanMan18
Senior Member
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01-12-2022, 07:41 AM
#6
They're all good. Generally speaking, RAM stays RAM regardless of the maker, unless the manufacturer begins to notice differences in more advanced features like overclocking. If it helps, my top overclocking DDR4 rig uses an ADATA kit, and some early DDR5 world records were achieved with those memory kits.
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EndermanMan18
01-12-2022, 07:41 AM #6

They're all good. Generally speaking, RAM stays RAM regardless of the maker, unless the manufacturer begins to notice differences in more advanced features like overclocking. If it helps, my top overclocking DDR4 rig uses an ADATA kit, and some early DDR5 world records were achieved with those memory kits.

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Hnrk_
Junior Member
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01-13-2022, 07:49 PM
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It's good to hear. The costs in the UK are really steep for those recommended sets, especially since the stores are now taking advantage of bulk sales. I’ll hold off until there are discounts, not rushing at these high prices. I agree with your suggestions on pricing.
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Hnrk_
01-13-2022, 07:49 PM #7

It's good to hear. The costs in the UK are really steep for those recommended sets, especially since the stores are now taking advantage of bulk sales. I’ll hold off until there are discounts, not rushing at these high prices. I agree with your suggestions on pricing.

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KidArmy21
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01-14-2022, 03:19 AM
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Fair point, hope you get something. Remember, brand usually doesn’t really change much when choosing a kit—most models are quite alike. Even OEM options often perform well, like the DDR5 records from SK Hynix using their own DIMMs. Just look for the lowest price in your desired speed range and go with that.
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KidArmy21
01-14-2022, 03:19 AM #8

Fair point, hope you get something. Remember, brand usually doesn’t really change much when choosing a kit—most models are quite alike. Even OEM options often perform well, like the DDR5 records from SK Hynix using their own DIMMs. Just look for the lowest price in your desired speed range and go with that.

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xImFizzy
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01-14-2022, 03:54 AM
#9
I discovered a Kingston FURY Beast EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Set (KF556C36BBEAK2-32) priced at £149.99.
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xImFizzy
01-14-2022, 03:54 AM #9

I discovered a Kingston FURY Beast EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Set (KF556C36BBEAK2-32) priced at £149.99.

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thermopylen
Junior Member
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02-01-2022, 12:48 AM
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Certain programs thrive on low latency, while others perform better with high bandwidth. The suggested calculation helps determine the ideal speed range. To gain advantages in both latency and bandwidth, aim just above DDR5 8000.
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thermopylen
02-01-2022, 12:48 AM #10

Certain programs thrive on low latency, while others perform better with high bandwidth. The suggested calculation helps determine the ideal speed range. To gain advantages in both latency and bandwidth, aim just above DDR5 8000.

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