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Consider upgrading from 3200 CL16 to 3600 CL14 using a Ryzen 5900X.

Consider upgrading from 3200 CL16 to 3600 CL14 using a Ryzen 5900X.

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NottaSpy
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12-15-2020, 03:44 PM
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Can't you check the RAM? My Corsair Vengeance LPX CL16 has 16GB X 2 and it's clocking 3800MHz.
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NottaSpy
12-15-2020, 03:44 PM #1

Can't you check the RAM? My Corsair Vengeance LPX CL16 has 16GB X 2 and it's clocking 3800MHz.

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kcristan
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12-15-2020, 05:15 PM
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The gap in performance exists, but it's not substantial. Results vary by game, but I don't anticipate much improvement here. Focus on boosting your existing setup to around 3600MHz CL18 or 3800MHz CL20. Ryzen 3000/5000 can usually reach high RAM speeds with a solid motherboard. The main factor restricting RAM speed is the FCLK, which should match the DRAM clock in a 1:1 ratio for optimal performance. The Ryzen 3000 typically had FCLKs between 1800MHz and 1900MHz, so 3600MHz is a reasonable target. For XMP support, dual rank 3600MHz CL14 offers decent performance. To achieve top speeds, aim for 3800MHz CL16 or 3800MHz CL14—higher FCLK means lower latency and better results compared to 3600MHz CL14—but this demands overclocking your RAM, as only a few motherboards support 3800CL14.
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kcristan
12-15-2020, 05:15 PM #2

The gap in performance exists, but it's not substantial. Results vary by game, but I don't anticipate much improvement here. Focus on boosting your existing setup to around 3600MHz CL18 or 3800MHz CL20. Ryzen 3000/5000 can usually reach high RAM speeds with a solid motherboard. The main factor restricting RAM speed is the FCLK, which should match the DRAM clock in a 1:1 ratio for optimal performance. The Ryzen 3000 typically had FCLKs between 1800MHz and 1900MHz, so 3600MHz is a reasonable target. For XMP support, dual rank 3600MHz CL14 offers decent performance. To achieve top speeds, aim for 3800MHz CL16 or 3800MHz CL14—higher FCLK means lower latency and better results compared to 3600MHz CL14—but this demands overclocking your RAM, as only a few motherboards support 3800CL14.

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RyuBil
Junior Member
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12-15-2020, 10:08 PM
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I haven't experimented with RAM OC past setting the factory XMP profile. It might be worth a shot since I already have the modules, though it seems stability comes from more than just CPU/GPU overclocking. My current build probably holds up well. I'm not sure if my setup is fragile, but I think it's safe to try. When I purchased it, I was focused on getting the desired capacity from a familiar brand at a low cost. Perhaps I'll test it tonight—just browsing the forum while relaxing at work, so I can share my thoughts later.
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RyuBil
12-15-2020, 10:08 PM #3

I haven't experimented with RAM OC past setting the factory XMP profile. It might be worth a shot since I already have the modules, though it seems stability comes from more than just CPU/GPU overclocking. My current build probably holds up well. I'm not sure if my setup is fragile, but I think it's safe to try. When I purchased it, I was focused on getting the desired capacity from a familiar brand at a low cost. Perhaps I'll test it tonight—just browsing the forum while relaxing at work, so I can share my thoughts later.

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veloCEKNiVes
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12-16-2020, 05:41 AM
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No, I don't have an MSI board.
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veloCEKNiVes
12-16-2020, 05:41 AM #4

No, I don't have an MSI board.

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Lindinger
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12-16-2020, 08:11 AM
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It's an Asus TUF, and it's listed as compatible with up to 4800 in the user guide.
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Lindinger
12-16-2020, 08:11 AM #5

It's an Asus TUF, and it's listed as compatible with up to 4800 in the user guide.

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Lior1001
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12-17-2020, 10:53 PM
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Ram options mainly focus on speed or tight constraints. Brute speed tends to be more affordable, especially with standard 2666 or 3200 sticks available at low prices. Ballistix 3200 offers good looks if aesthetics matter. I’m not sure about other 16Gb rev parts besides those models. For high voltage limits, aim for around 4600+ C17/18, targeting either the IC scaling limit or cooling limits (~1.7V). 16Gb rev performance is generally poor, so you can skip it. D9WX devices are what you should consider. This approach breaks down if the clock frequency exceeds 1900 or if the sync-to-unsync FCLK gap is under 800MHz. Fast timing is costly due to inconsistent die performance. Using dies in the 3000/3200 C14 range helps with cost, while generic 3000-3600 bins with revisions (like Corsair Vengeance LX, LED, RGB) work well for sync FCLK around 3800-4000C14/13 at 1.5-1.75V. If the FCLK is below 1866, brute speed might be better to compensate for reduced die capacity.
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Lior1001
12-17-2020, 10:53 PM #6

Ram options mainly focus on speed or tight constraints. Brute speed tends to be more affordable, especially with standard 2666 or 3200 sticks available at low prices. Ballistix 3200 offers good looks if aesthetics matter. I’m not sure about other 16Gb rev parts besides those models. For high voltage limits, aim for around 4600+ C17/18, targeting either the IC scaling limit or cooling limits (~1.7V). 16Gb rev performance is generally poor, so you can skip it. D9WX devices are what you should consider. This approach breaks down if the clock frequency exceeds 1900 or if the sync-to-unsync FCLK gap is under 800MHz. Fast timing is costly due to inconsistent die performance. Using dies in the 3000/3200 C14 range helps with cost, while generic 3000-3600 bins with revisions (like Corsair Vengeance LX, LED, RGB) work well for sync FCLK around 3800-4000C14/13 at 1.5-1.75V. If the FCLK is below 1866, brute speed might be better to compensate for reduced die capacity.