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Consider enhancing your system by adding more RAM alongside the GPU upgrade.

Consider enhancing your system by adding more RAM alongside the GPU upgrade.

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rubixgirl
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08-02-2022, 08:49 PM
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After reviewing AMD's latest products and the problems they're facing with the 7000 R9 X3D chips, along with reports about Asus motherboards struggling with EXPO stability, it seems logical now. From a financial and practical standpoint, sticking with AM4 and swapping in a 5800X3D would be better than upgrading to a 2600. I’m considering replacing my old heatsink (Coolermaster Hyper 212 black) with either the be Quiet Dark Rock 4 Pro or the Deepcool AK620. I’m also unsure if my current 16 GB of DDR4 3200mhz CL16 Teamgroup T-Fource Vulcan Z is enough for the upgrade, or if increasing it to 32 GB would be necessary. My motherboard is a B450 Tomahawk, which suggests the 3200mhz is the maximum supported speed, even after updating the BIOS for X3D support.
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rubixgirl
08-02-2022, 08:49 PM #1

After reviewing AMD's latest products and the problems they're facing with the 7000 R9 X3D chips, along with reports about Asus motherboards struggling with EXPO stability, it seems logical now. From a financial and practical standpoint, sticking with AM4 and swapping in a 5800X3D would be better than upgrading to a 2600. I’m considering replacing my old heatsink (Coolermaster Hyper 212 black) with either the be Quiet Dark Rock 4 Pro or the Deepcool AK620. I’m also unsure if my current 16 GB of DDR4 3200mhz CL16 Teamgroup T-Fource Vulcan Z is enough for the upgrade, or if increasing it to 32 GB would be necessary. My motherboard is a B450 Tomahawk, which suggests the 3200mhz is the maximum supported speed, even after updating the BIOS for X3D support.

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Jan_Damz
Member
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08-10-2022, 01:40 AM
#2
3200 works well. The R9 7000 series x3d chips face driver problems because core parking limits them—only one CCD has the 3D V cache while the others do not. This isn’t an issue on the 5800x3D and 7800x3D models, as just one CCD is present. With 16GB of RAM it should still suffice for 1080p gaming. Unless you’re targeting higher resolutions, I’d recommend sticking with your current setup. Edited April 9, 2023 by Ottoman420
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Jan_Damz
08-10-2022, 01:40 AM #2

3200 works well. The R9 7000 series x3d chips face driver problems because core parking limits them—only one CCD has the 3D V cache while the others do not. This isn’t an issue on the 5800x3D and 7800x3D models, as just one CCD is present. With 16GB of RAM it should still suffice for 1080p gaming. Unless you’re targeting higher resolutions, I’d recommend sticking with your current setup. Edited April 9, 2023 by Ottoman420

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TobtIsAmazing
Junior Member
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08-10-2022, 04:16 AM
#3
I’m working at 1080p right now, constrained by my screen size. I intend to upgrade to a 1440p display, assuming my current setup can handle it. Over time, I’ll switch to a higher resolution monitor, possibly a 6800XT later.
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TobtIsAmazing
08-10-2022, 04:16 AM #3

I’m working at 1080p right now, constrained by my screen size. I intend to upgrade to a 1440p display, assuming my current setup can handle it. Over time, I’ll switch to a higher resolution monitor, possibly a 6800XT later.

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111carys111
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08-10-2022, 11:04 AM
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Your MSI B450i supports up to 3200 MHz, and running at 3733 MHz is within normal limits. With 16GB RAM, you should have plenty of headroom for several years.
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111carys111
08-10-2022, 11:04 AM #4

Your MSI B450i supports up to 3200 MHz, and running at 3733 MHz is within normal limits. With 16GB RAM, you should have plenty of headroom for several years.

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master_scope
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08-11-2022, 01:45 AM
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It's okay. The main focus of gaming performance is to reduce RAM limitations, so a setup like 2400MT/s CL16 JEDEC works well and I’d suggest keeping it that way. Whether you need 32GB depends on your personal needs and situation. Many games now use around 16GB, particularly if you tend to keep large files open, but it’s still not widespread. You’ll likely get by with 16GB, especially if you’re already managing well with it. If you don’t have enough, I’d recommend 32GB instead, and I agree with the idea of upgrading just in case. Resolution shouldn’t significantly change your RAM requirements, even at 1440p, as long as you’re playing current titles.
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master_scope
08-11-2022, 01:45 AM #5

It's okay. The main focus of gaming performance is to reduce RAM limitations, so a setup like 2400MT/s CL16 JEDEC works well and I’d suggest keeping it that way. Whether you need 32GB depends on your personal needs and situation. Many games now use around 16GB, particularly if you tend to keep large files open, but it’s still not widespread. You’ll likely get by with 16GB, especially if you’re already managing well with it. If you don’t have enough, I’d recommend 32GB instead, and I agree with the idea of upgrading just in case. Resolution shouldn’t significantly change your RAM requirements, even at 1440p, as long as you’re playing current titles.

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Le_loser
Junior Member
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08-11-2022, 02:35 AM
#6
Time and resources are wasted; 5800x3D depends less on memory speed compared to other Ryzen models because of its massive cache.
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Le_loser
08-11-2022, 02:35 AM #6

Time and resources are wasted; 5800x3D depends less on memory speed compared to other Ryzen models because of its massive cache.

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ItsMeZiv_
Junior Member
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08-11-2022, 03:19 AM
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Because you're using the CPU, you might want to upgrade to 32GB. There are many options available at 3600 32GB clones with a 36GB SSD that will work well. You can always upgrade later if needed, so don’t rush—just plan it if you decide to go ahead.
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ItsMeZiv_
08-11-2022, 03:19 AM #7

Because you're using the CPU, you might want to upgrade to 32GB. There are many options available at 3600 32GB clones with a 36GB SSD that will work well. You can always upgrade later if needed, so don’t rush—just plan it if you decide to go ahead.