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Consider building AdviceCPU and GPU upgrades?

Consider building AdviceCPU and GPU upgrades?

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Hugotricker
Junior Member
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11-14-2019, 02:56 PM
#11
I believe using a 9070 class card with a 5700x would be a good choice for a 1440p monitor. It depends on what you're viewing, but these options seem reasonable unless you're specifically looking for OLED. I suggest 1440p since the 9070/9070xt levels might face some CPU limitations at 1080p, but at 1440p it could be more manageable. I also heard a video mentioned earlier where Ryzen reported about a 15% boost from certain updates, which would be a real improvement.
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Hugotricker
11-14-2019, 02:56 PM #11

I believe using a 9070 class card with a 5700x would be a good choice for a 1440p monitor. It depends on what you're viewing, but these options seem reasonable unless you're specifically looking for OLED. I suggest 1440p since the 9070/9070xt levels might face some CPU limitations at 1080p, but at 1440p it could be more manageable. I also heard a video mentioned earlier where Ryzen reported about a 15% boost from certain updates, which would be a real improvement.

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Ozwego
Member
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11-15-2019, 09:03 AM
#12
Thank you for your feedback. I understand the delay and apologize for missing your message due to car issues.

I’m considering a full system upgrade but am unsure about budget constraints. My thoughts lean toward PSU, GPU, and possibly a Ryzen 5 5600x CPU. I wanted to ask about the value of a good motherboard versus a cheaper one—how much difference does it really make? I wasn’t sure at first how significant they are.

By the way, second-hand DDR5 RAM seems possible, but is it worth it? Also, is a 6000MHz clock speed really worth the extra cost compared to 5200MHz? It can feel like a big price gap. I noticed a budget DDR5 stick for 190 pounds, while the cheapest two 16GB modules cost around 260 pounds. Is switching to dual sticks enough, or should I keep one and upgrade later?
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Ozwego
11-15-2019, 09:03 AM #12

Thank you for your feedback. I understand the delay and apologize for missing your message due to car issues.

I’m considering a full system upgrade but am unsure about budget constraints. My thoughts lean toward PSU, GPU, and possibly a Ryzen 5 5600x CPU. I wanted to ask about the value of a good motherboard versus a cheaper one—how much difference does it really make? I wasn’t sure at first how significant they are.

By the way, second-hand DDR5 RAM seems possible, but is it worth it? Also, is a 6000MHz clock speed really worth the extra cost compared to 5200MHz? It can feel like a big price gap. I noticed a budget DDR5 stick for 190 pounds, while the cheapest two 16GB modules cost around 260 pounds. Is switching to dual sticks enough, or should I keep one and upgrade later?

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Dandindan
Junior Member
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11-17-2019, 03:13 AM
#13
I was thinking the same. You don't need a HUGE processor for a lot of games.. AM4 chipsets are still perfectly fine, zero reason to go to AM5 chipset and then spend more money on RAM for DDR5 - and all memory is REALLY expensive now - not a great time to buy a whole new setup when you already have AM4 (which is fine).
Grab a new CPU (like the 5700x which is perfectly fine for 1080 and even 1440p) and then grab a 5070 TI if you can which will DEFINITELY be able to handle 1080 AND 1440p. 5070 TI is closer to the 5080 and far superior to the 5070 with the extra memory and bus. And even games like Battlefield 6 (just came out) a 5700x is way above the recommended.
That's where I'd start. 5700x - can leave your mobo/RAM alone, and a 5070 TI which will last you another 3+ years at even 1440p and run everything to date basically at max and the 5K series isn't even that PSU intensive and a 5070 TI can be had for around $800 USD (or around 600 pounds).
5700x and a 5070 TI is plug and play with his setup (take little time to swap it) and under 800-1000 pounds - even leaving some room for a nice PSU upgrade if you want. Or save it and upgrade a little more RAM.
@Tom RB
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Dandindan
11-17-2019, 03:13 AM #13

I was thinking the same. You don't need a HUGE processor for a lot of games.. AM4 chipsets are still perfectly fine, zero reason to go to AM5 chipset and then spend more money on RAM for DDR5 - and all memory is REALLY expensive now - not a great time to buy a whole new setup when you already have AM4 (which is fine).
Grab a new CPU (like the 5700x which is perfectly fine for 1080 and even 1440p) and then grab a 5070 TI if you can which will DEFINITELY be able to handle 1080 AND 1440p. 5070 TI is closer to the 5080 and far superior to the 5070 with the extra memory and bus. And even games like Battlefield 6 (just came out) a 5700x is way above the recommended.
That's where I'd start. 5700x - can leave your mobo/RAM alone, and a 5070 TI which will last you another 3+ years at even 1440p and run everything to date basically at max and the 5K series isn't even that PSU intensive and a 5070 TI can be had for around $800 USD (or around 600 pounds).
5700x and a 5070 TI is plug and play with his setup (take little time to swap it) and under 800-1000 pounds - even leaving some room for a nice PSU upgrade if you want. Or save it and upgrade a little more RAM.
@Tom RB

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kettlebell23
Junior Member
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11-19-2019, 04:41 AM
#14
duel sticks are essential, providing double the bandwidth. it’s crucial to purchase a suitable kit. personally, I’d opt for a 5700x with a b550 motherboard, 16gb x 2 DDR4. moving from b450 to b550 will bring some benefits. the setup would include 4.0 PCIe gen and NVMe speeds of 4.0 and 3.0. check out the links provided for more details: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/T2CrJn and https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks-...05090.html. this is my recommended approach if your case is suitable. otherwise, skip the case suggestions. what’s your current power supply? msi appears to release beta BIOS, so customers should update at their own risk. consider jumping ship to a different board. look into gigabyte or ASUS TUF B550 options. start with upgrading RAM to 32GB—your existing board can still support it. then upgrade to the b550, as you can run the processor there. reinstall Windows after signing it via email to reactivate data. next, install the 5700x, update the power supply and GPU. expect better performance at 1080p; for smoother 1440p, a 5070 is a safer choice due to lower power needs and less fire risk. its full X16 slot won’t limit you, though there’s a slight drop in performance from 5.0 to 4.0.
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kettlebell23
11-19-2019, 04:41 AM #14

duel sticks are essential, providing double the bandwidth. it’s crucial to purchase a suitable kit. personally, I’d opt for a 5700x with a b550 motherboard, 16gb x 2 DDR4. moving from b450 to b550 will bring some benefits. the setup would include 4.0 PCIe gen and NVMe speeds of 4.0 and 3.0. check out the links provided for more details: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/T2CrJn and https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks-...05090.html. this is my recommended approach if your case is suitable. otherwise, skip the case suggestions. what’s your current power supply? msi appears to release beta BIOS, so customers should update at their own risk. consider jumping ship to a different board. look into gigabyte or ASUS TUF B550 options. start with upgrading RAM to 32GB—your existing board can still support it. then upgrade to the b550, as you can run the processor there. reinstall Windows after signing it via email to reactivate data. next, install the 5700x, update the power supply and GPU. expect better performance at 1080p; for smoother 1440p, a 5070 is a safer choice due to lower power needs and less fire risk. its full X16 slot won’t limit you, though there’s a slight drop in performance from 5.0 to 4.0.

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alex17171717
Junior Member
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11-19-2019, 05:01 AM
#15
I would rely on the information you already possess and evaluate how it performs with a new CPU and graphics card. Check out this link: https://www.techspot.com/review/3076-how-much-ram-2026/
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alex17171717
11-19-2019, 05:01 AM #15

I would rely on the information you already possess and evaluate how it performs with a new CPU and graphics card. Check out this link: https://www.techspot.com/review/3076-how-much-ram-2026/

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DontRetro
Junior Member
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11-19-2019, 11:58 AM
#16
I don’t think I’d change the motherboard. You’re already using an outdated socket.
According to tech power up, the 5090 only experiences less than a 10% performance drop if connected to a PCI e X16 slot.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidi...ng/29.html
If this is true, as long as the 5070 uses an x16 connection rather than x8, you likely won’t notice a significant performance decrease if it does occur. This could mean you can allocate funds to another component.
Regarding the beta BIOS issue, a b450 is an older model. The beta BIOS might function adequately even if it hasn’t been fully tested for older boards. You could test it and swap the board if necessary. I tried a 5900x on an older AsRock b350 a few years ago and it worked fine.
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DontRetro
11-19-2019, 11:58 AM #16

I don’t think I’d change the motherboard. You’re already using an outdated socket.
According to tech power up, the 5090 only experiences less than a 10% performance drop if connected to a PCI e X16 slot.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidi...ng/29.html
If this is true, as long as the 5070 uses an x16 connection rather than x8, you likely won’t notice a significant performance decrease if it does occur. This could mean you can allocate funds to another component.
Regarding the beta BIOS issue, a b450 is an older model. The beta BIOS might function adequately even if it hasn’t been fully tested for older boards. You could test it and swap the board if necessary. I tried a 5900x on an older AsRock b350 a few years ago and it worked fine.

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Niouniou0703
Junior Member
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11-19-2019, 02:49 PM
#17
You'll maintain better gaming performance by staying with your existing board. Consider upgrading to a CPU, faster GPU, and swapping RAM for a 32GB configuration. Dispose of your current 16GB kit to recoup some expenses.
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Niouniou0703
11-19-2019, 02:49 PM #17

You'll maintain better gaming performance by staying with your existing board. Consider upgrading to a CPU, faster GPU, and swapping RAM for a 32GB configuration. Dispose of your current 16GB kit to recoup some expenses.

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entech
Member
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11-19-2019, 11:47 PM
#18
I agree with the previous comment. I believe staying on your current board won’t cost much in terms of performance loss. The 9070 seems like a stronger choice compared to the 5070 because of its additional VRAM. I’m using a 9070 paired with an i7 14700 and 32GB DDR4, which is a solid setup for 1440p. The configuration Hades is suggesting should align well with what I have. If that’s the case, you should be satisfied. Plus, you’d retain the GPU if you upgrade later.
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entech
11-19-2019, 11:47 PM #18

I agree with the previous comment. I believe staying on your current board won’t cost much in terms of performance loss. The 9070 seems like a stronger choice compared to the 5070 because of its additional VRAM. I’m using a 9070 paired with an i7 14700 and 32GB DDR4, which is a solid setup for 1440p. The configuration Hades is suggesting should align well with what I have. If that’s the case, you should be satisfied. Plus, you’d retain the GPU if you upgrade later.

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