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Connect via a double NAT setup for remote access to your Raspberry Pi.

Connect via a double NAT setup for remote access to your Raspberry Pi.

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xXKoalaPvPXx
Junior Member
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03-24-2023, 09:00 AM
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Hi everyone, Noob question here. I have a raspberry pi 3 that I'm using as a security monitor in my home. I have switched to a fiber optic ISP and quickly realized that I am no longer able to access MotionEye from outside my LAN. I was told that it is because they use a double NAT, I had to look up exactly what this means and the way I understand it is it being a router behind a router. It was also explained to me that I would need to request a static IP address, which costs $10 more a month. Is there anyway around this so I can access my camera outside of my network? Thanks!
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xXKoalaPvPXx
03-24-2023, 09:00 AM #1

Hi everyone, Noob question here. I have a raspberry pi 3 that I'm using as a security monitor in my home. I have switched to a fiber optic ISP and quickly realized that I am no longer able to access MotionEye from outside my LAN. I was told that it is because they use a double NAT, I had to look up exactly what this means and the way I understand it is it being a router behind a router. It was also explained to me that I would need to request a static IP address, which costs $10 more a month. Is there anyway around this so I can access my camera outside of my network? Thanks!

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LionFlame
Junior Member
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04-10-2023, 01:58 PM
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You may bypass the double NAT by forwarding all required ports to the WAN port on the second router—make sure it stays fixed—but ideally use Bridged Mode if the first router allows it.
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LionFlame
04-10-2023, 01:58 PM #2

You may bypass the double NAT by forwarding all required ports to the WAN port on the second router—make sure it stays fixed—but ideally use Bridged Mode if the first router allows it.

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SuperTigresss
Posting Freak
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04-10-2023, 03:57 PM
#3
Varies by provider; some ISPs now place customers in routers that block port forwarding, making it nearly impossible to host servers from there.
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SuperTigresss
04-10-2023, 03:57 PM #3

Varies by provider; some ISPs now place customers in routers that block port forwarding, making it nearly impossible to host servers from there.

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Realbattle
Junior Member
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04-10-2023, 06:58 PM
#4
Apologize for my lack of knowledge about networking. You have just one router at home, and the fiber modem—its exact name is unclear. It seems the second router is likely managed by your ISP. I’ve attempted to forward ports on your own router without success.
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Realbattle
04-10-2023, 06:58 PM #4

Apologize for my lack of knowledge about networking. You have just one router at home, and the fiber modem—its exact name is unclear. It seems the second router is likely managed by your ISP. I’ve attempted to forward ports on your own router without success.

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Viplo
Member
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04-16-2023, 09:09 AM
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Kilrah mentioned that if your ISP has blocked you from accessing the router you're using, you're in a tough spot. You might want to request them to forward ports or try Bridged Mode to see what happens. It's important to check these options with a new ISP before committing to installation or upgrades.
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Viplo
04-16-2023, 09:09 AM #5

Kilrah mentioned that if your ISP has blocked you from accessing the router you're using, you're in a tough spot. You might want to request them to forward ports or try Bridged Mode to see what happens. It's important to check these options with a new ISP before committing to installation or upgrades.

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SnifePvP
Posting Freak
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04-16-2023, 10:28 AM
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It's not a major issue since I've configured the RPi to capture any movement. I'll reach out to check if bridging is available or if the static IP charge can be waived. I'm not trying to sound overly clever, but I haven't encountered 'double NAT' before and didn't realize it would matter until recently. While talking to a CSR, I mentioned needing access to a NAS outside my network, and they reassured me it wouldn't be an issue.
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SnifePvP
04-16-2023, 10:28 AM #6

It's not a major issue since I've configured the RPi to capture any movement. I'll reach out to check if bridging is available or if the static IP charge can be waived. I'm not trying to sound overly clever, but I haven't encountered 'double NAT' before and didn't realize it would matter until recently. While talking to a CSR, I mentioned needing access to a NAS outside my network, and they reassured me it wouldn't be an issue.

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xSofietjeh
Junior Member
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04-18-2023, 08:11 AM
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I don't grasp why they offered that choice when you can't port forward, but sure, check out the link. Fair enough, though most folks don't need to port forward, which is why a double NAT isn't a big issue for them. Even so, if you are, you generally have the ability to remove it yourself, though not here. Just a heads-up for the future: this ISP also tries to steer clear of LTE providers. Those tend to keep you behind NAT64-CGN. If you believe port forwarding isn't possible right now, just assume it won't work on those connections.
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xSofietjeh
04-18-2023, 08:11 AM #7

I don't grasp why they offered that choice when you can't port forward, but sure, check out the link. Fair enough, though most folks don't need to port forward, which is why a double NAT isn't a big issue for them. Even so, if you are, you generally have the ability to remove it yourself, though not here. Just a heads-up for the future: this ISP also tries to steer clear of LTE providers. Those tend to keep you behind NAT64-CGN. If you believe port forwarding isn't possible right now, just assume it won't work on those connections.

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Lorddoom139
Posting Freak
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04-19-2023, 08:50 AM
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They likely chose a commercial NAS, most of which include a cloud relay feature so you can use them without needing port forwarding.
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Lorddoom139
04-19-2023, 08:50 AM #8

They likely chose a commercial NAS, most of which include a cloud relay feature so you can use them without needing port forwarding.

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Yoshman2000
Member
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04-20-2023, 06:26 PM
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I’m not sure about the exact setup—whether NAT64-CGN is used or what it stands for. I’m checking out Metronet, a fiber optic ISP, and previously had Spectrum (Time Warner). Their service wasn’t great. Thanks for your assistance!
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Yoshman2000
04-20-2023, 06:26 PM #9

I’m not sure about the exact setup—whether NAT64-CGN is used or what it stands for. I’m checking out Metronet, a fiber optic ISP, and previously had Spectrum (Time Warner). Their service wasn’t great. Thanks for your assistance!

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Doeii
Junior Member
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04-20-2023, 06:55 PM
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If they offered a static IP, it’s improbable they’re using CG-NAT. It’s more likely the modem functions as a router—possibly switching to bridge mode—or you might be able to adjust it yourself with the right guidance.
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Doeii
04-20-2023, 06:55 PM #10

If they offered a static IP, it’s improbable they’re using CG-NAT. It’s more likely the modem functions as a router—possibly switching to bridge mode—or you might be able to adjust it yourself with the right guidance.

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