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Complex Inquiry: 5800X3D Memory Boost Issues Questions About Performance Enhancements

Complex Inquiry: 5800X3D Memory Boost Issues Questions About Performance Enhancements

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Tico_32
Senior Member
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06-09-2022, 09:40 AM
#1
Recently upgraded to a 5800X3D last month. Attempting memory overclocking with a set of sH!T binned dual rank b-dies (2x16, [email protected], Acer Predator). What are your results? Are there any issues? Can you lower the voltage? Should I consider a better memory package? Currently, I'm running the sticks at 1.55v. If I get improved binned dies, will they work at the same speed with less power? (I need to use fans to keep them stable longer.) The kit is stable during OCCT mem test and gaming (Warzone). Thanks!
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Tico_32
06-09-2022, 09:40 AM #1

Recently upgraded to a 5800X3D last month. Attempting memory overclocking with a set of sH!T binned dual rank b-dies (2x16, [email protected], Acer Predator). What are your results? Are there any issues? Can you lower the voltage? Should I consider a better memory package? Currently, I'm running the sticks at 1.55v. If I get improved binned dies, will they work at the same speed with less power? (I need to use fans to keep them stable longer.) The kit is stable during OCCT mem test and gaming (Warzone). Thanks!

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FreeZe_PvP
Junior Member
35
06-09-2022, 04:48 PM
#2
Check the forum discussions around the 5800X3D model. You can also refer to the provided document for details.
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FreeZe_PvP
06-09-2022, 04:48 PM #2

Check the forum discussions around the 5800X3D model. You can also refer to the provided document for details.

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thibdu87
Member
229
06-10-2022, 12:27 AM
#3
tRCDWR generally handles 8 on B die well, while tRAS might reach around 21, but with tRP 14 it could be restricted by tRC. tWR could likely achieve 10, both kits of dual rank B die hitting 10 on Ryzen, though they seem to perform better in general. tWTR might manage 6 or 7 instead of 8, but the performance gain probably isn't worth it. tCWL could reach 12, with timing typically 1-2 ticks below tCL most of the time. tRDRDSD and tWRWRSD can probably drop a tick further, though that's uncertain. You've got solid overclocking potential—just consider lowering those specific timings for better results.
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thibdu87
06-10-2022, 12:27 AM #3

tRCDWR generally handles 8 on B die well, while tRAS might reach around 21, but with tRP 14 it could be restricted by tRC. tWR could likely achieve 10, both kits of dual rank B die hitting 10 on Ryzen, though they seem to perform better in general. tWTR might manage 6 or 7 instead of 8, but the performance gain probably isn't worth it. tCWL could reach 12, with timing typically 1-2 ticks below tCL most of the time. tRDRDSD and tWRWRSD can probably drop a tick further, though that's uncertain. You've got solid overclocking potential—just consider lowering those specific timings for better results.

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Lenranders
Member
55
06-10-2022, 01:15 AM
#4
It looks like you're asking about maintaining stability while using Windows. Be careful with updates, especially if RAM is overclocked, as they can cause crashes. Also, tell me more about the other tasks you're optimizing for beyond gaming.
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Lenranders
06-10-2022, 01:15 AM #4

It looks like you're asking about maintaining stability while using Windows. Be careful with updates, especially if RAM is overclocked, as they can cause crashes. Also, tell me more about the other tasks you're optimizing for beyond gaming.

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WhitePanda246
Junior Member
48
06-11-2022, 02:50 AM
#5
No, it's not necessarily a mistake. 1.55V is within the typical operating range for DDR4 memory.
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WhitePanda246
06-11-2022, 02:50 AM #5

No, it's not necessarily a mistake. 1.55V is within the typical operating range for DDR4 memory.

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DengeliOda
Member
228
06-14-2022, 01:05 AM
#6
It's B die, as long as it's got some airflow 1.55V is fine. There are kits with XMPs rated at 1.6V IIRC with those memory chips, and they scale up to ~1.8V easy given they have direct airflow.
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DengeliOda
06-14-2022, 01:05 AM #6

It's B die, as long as it's got some airflow 1.55V is fine. There are kits with XMPs rated at 1.6V IIRC with those memory chips, and they scale up to ~1.8V easy given they have direct airflow.

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Dsp2014
Junior Member
3
06-20-2022, 04:42 AM
#7
Reduced tRCDWR, tRDRDSD, and tWRWRSD results observed. No success with tWR, tWTR, and tCWL. The material costs around $200 or less—perhaps I’ll continue overvolting until it fails.
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Dsp2014
06-20-2022, 04:42 AM #7

Reduced tRCDWR, tRDRDSD, and tWRWRSD results observed. No success with tWR, tWTR, and tCWL. The material costs around $200 or less—perhaps I’ll continue overvolting until it fails.

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M4sh
Member
148
06-21-2022, 01:22 AM
#8
120mm blower at 1500 rpm inside an AC environment
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M4sh
06-21-2022, 01:22 AM #8

120mm blower at 1500 rpm inside an AC environment

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Greenybomb
Member
158
06-23-2022, 05:31 AM
#9
Run a few performance checks with Linpack Extreme, HCI Memtest, OCCT, etc., to verify stability. Some timings are quite tight (tRTP around 6 is low in my experience), which suggests you might not have a fully stable system. Unstable RAM can be frustrating. I wouldn’t suggest this product unless you're doing serious benchmarking, particularly with the 5800X3D because of its large cache. The performance gap between 1.5V and 1.8V+ isn't huge, unless you're aiming for competitive results. If you're pushing tight clocks like 3800MHz CL14-14-14 at 1.55V, it performs well—most other good kits I've tried don't maintain flat 14s at that voltage and speed. I’d prefer to stick with reliable options, especially since B die kits can vary widely in specs. If you're interested in overclocking for fun, check eBay, FB Marketplace, or Craigslist for used Corsair memory sets. They usually list version numbers (like v4.31 for Samsung B die) so you know what you’re getting. Look for the sticker saying “v4.31” to confirm compatibility and avoid surprises. Corsair B die kits are budget-friendly (a 16GB set can cost around $40), making it easy to overvolt safely. Avoid higher-end ratings like 3600MHz CL14 or above unless you're willing to bet on better performance. Sometimes you’ll find a kit that only reaches 3200MHz, while others jump to higher speeds once you boost the voltage—essentially playing with silicon luck. Other used options aren’t bad, but Corsair B die sets are generally the most affordable way to ensure reliability.
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Greenybomb
06-23-2022, 05:31 AM #9

Run a few performance checks with Linpack Extreme, HCI Memtest, OCCT, etc., to verify stability. Some timings are quite tight (tRTP around 6 is low in my experience), which suggests you might not have a fully stable system. Unstable RAM can be frustrating. I wouldn’t suggest this product unless you're doing serious benchmarking, particularly with the 5800X3D because of its large cache. The performance gap between 1.5V and 1.8V+ isn't huge, unless you're aiming for competitive results. If you're pushing tight clocks like 3800MHz CL14-14-14 at 1.55V, it performs well—most other good kits I've tried don't maintain flat 14s at that voltage and speed. I’d prefer to stick with reliable options, especially since B die kits can vary widely in specs. If you're interested in overclocking for fun, check eBay, FB Marketplace, or Craigslist for used Corsair memory sets. They usually list version numbers (like v4.31 for Samsung B die) so you know what you’re getting. Look for the sticker saying “v4.31” to confirm compatibility and avoid surprises. Corsair B die kits are budget-friendly (a 16GB set can cost around $40), making it easy to overvolt safely. Avoid higher-end ratings like 3600MHz CL14 or above unless you're willing to bet on better performance. Sometimes you’ll find a kit that only reaches 3200MHz, while others jump to higher speeds once you boost the voltage—essentially playing with silicon luck. Other used options aren’t bad, but Corsair B die sets are generally the most affordable way to ensure reliability.

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OnesieLover
Member
60
06-23-2022, 07:05 AM
#10
Some ios such as samsung b die, micron rev e/b/j, hynix djr, etc., handle higher voltages well. ~1.7v is manageable for pushing on a ram chip that can handle scaling without issues, not affecting the IC, though at these levels cooling might limit your overclocking. Generally, dies are rated for 2.1v+, but pushing beyond could damage the IC rather than the chip. Personally, I haven’t seen any signs of wear in my ram or ic while using a generic samsung revision stick. It’s safe to keep around 0.3v above the board’s max voltage to avoid degradation, though at higher voltages cooling might become a major hurdle. If you’re aiming for extreme overclocking, consider 2.46v as per my reference on 2010-11-10-20. I stick to that range mainly because I can and have reliable hardware, not because I’m concerned about damage. The risk is more about overheating than die failure. If you want peace of mind, a 14-bit setup like the x5660 with solid timings works well, even at 2.38v, though it still risks crashes if temperatures climb too high. Voltage scaling doesn’t mean dies are completely immune—it just pushes limits. The DDR4 guide from GitHub is thorough and useful for both newbies and pros. You might also find buildzoid helpful; it covers RAM overclocking in depth and includes some practical tips. Just keep an eye on temperatures, as even modest heat can cause problems. If you’re unsure, testing at lower voltages first is a smart approach before pushing to extremes.
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OnesieLover
06-23-2022, 07:05 AM #10

Some ios such as samsung b die, micron rev e/b/j, hynix djr, etc., handle higher voltages well. ~1.7v is manageable for pushing on a ram chip that can handle scaling without issues, not affecting the IC, though at these levels cooling might limit your overclocking. Generally, dies are rated for 2.1v+, but pushing beyond could damage the IC rather than the chip. Personally, I haven’t seen any signs of wear in my ram or ic while using a generic samsung revision stick. It’s safe to keep around 0.3v above the board’s max voltage to avoid degradation, though at higher voltages cooling might become a major hurdle. If you’re aiming for extreme overclocking, consider 2.46v as per my reference on 2010-11-10-20. I stick to that range mainly because I can and have reliable hardware, not because I’m concerned about damage. The risk is more about overheating than die failure. If you want peace of mind, a 14-bit setup like the x5660 with solid timings works well, even at 2.38v, though it still risks crashes if temperatures climb too high. Voltage scaling doesn’t mean dies are completely immune—it just pushes limits. The DDR4 guide from GitHub is thorough and useful for both newbies and pros. You might also find buildzoid helpful; it covers RAM overclocking in depth and includes some practical tips. Just keep an eye on temperatures, as even modest heat can cause problems. If you’re unsure, testing at lower voltages first is a smart approach before pushing to extremes.

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