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Comparing this personal computer with the Xbox One X gaming console.

Comparing this personal computer with the Xbox One X gaming console.

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cptprice848
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10-05-2017, 09:56 PM
#11
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punkncat :
killerabdb :
punkncat :
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I believe it's not as effective for the claimed 4K rates of 30/60 in some games, especially with the "X" feature.
However, at 1080p and 60 frames per second on maximum settings, it performs significantly better.
In my view, this is where a personal computer will excel. It seems the graphics card will truly stand out when operating within its intended capabilities, delivering superior textures.
I’m eager to read other opinions on this matter.
Absolutely. The 8400 is remarkably powerful at 1080p and pushes a graphics card to its limits. When paired with a 60Hz display and maximum settings, the result is exceptionally smooth.
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cptprice848
10-05-2017, 09:56 PM #11

Here’s a revised version of the text:

punkncat :
killerabdb :
punkncat :
posting to observe various responses
I believe it's not as effective for the claimed 4K rates of 30/60 in some games, especially with the "X" feature.
However, at 1080p and 60 frames per second on maximum settings, it performs significantly better.
In my view, this is where a personal computer will excel. It seems the graphics card will truly stand out when operating within its intended capabilities, delivering superior textures.
I’m eager to read other opinions on this matter.
Absolutely. The 8400 is remarkably powerful at 1080p and pushes a graphics card to its limits. When paired with a 60Hz display and maximum settings, the result is exceptionally smooth.

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ThisIsSamwich
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10-06-2017, 09:32 AM
#12
A peculiar aspect of the One X when rendering at 1080p is that in multiplayer games, devices lacking the One X are limited to 30 frames per second, while the One X restricts all FPS rates to 30 as well. This is intended to ensure equitable gameplay.
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ThisIsSamwich
10-06-2017, 09:32 AM #12

A peculiar aspect of the One X when rendering at 1080p is that in multiplayer games, devices lacking the One X are limited to 30 frames per second, while the One X restricts all FPS rates to 30 as well. This is intended to ensure equitable gameplay.

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GaleFrostbane
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10-06-2017, 04:55 PM
#13
Roland of Gilead:

I’d emphatically prefer the PC in every scenario. Aside from specialized games exclusive to Xbox, it’s consistently superior. It provides a substantially enhanced gaming experience due to its significantly greater processing power compared to an Xbox One X or any contemporary console.

This PC configuration would be exceptionally effective, offering superior visuals to the Xbox and providing considerably more flexibility. PCs allow for ongoing component upgrades, ensuring a consistently impressive system lifespan—typically spanning 4-5 years, contingent on the upgrades made and to what level.

However, I’m puzzled by why the Xbox One X can render 4K at a steady 30 frames per second, while a similarly powerful PC configuration struggles to achieve the same result at ultra settings. Given this PC's superior processing capabilities, it seems illogical that it wouldn’t be able to match or surpass the Xbox's 4K performance.

The key factor appears to be a tailored AMD processor combined with a remarkably swift DDR5 memory, which noticeably contributes to stable 30fps performance. I witness this consistently in practice.

Frankly, I’d favor the Xbox One over PC gaming – observing frequent stutters and performance issues on numerous forums. Why invest your time in a demanding experience when you simply want to play?
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GaleFrostbane
10-06-2017, 04:55 PM #13

Roland of Gilead:

I’d emphatically prefer the PC in every scenario. Aside from specialized games exclusive to Xbox, it’s consistently superior. It provides a substantially enhanced gaming experience due to its significantly greater processing power compared to an Xbox One X or any contemporary console.

This PC configuration would be exceptionally effective, offering superior visuals to the Xbox and providing considerably more flexibility. PCs allow for ongoing component upgrades, ensuring a consistently impressive system lifespan—typically spanning 4-5 years, contingent on the upgrades made and to what level.

However, I’m puzzled by why the Xbox One X can render 4K at a steady 30 frames per second, while a similarly powerful PC configuration struggles to achieve the same result at ultra settings. Given this PC's superior processing capabilities, it seems illogical that it wouldn’t be able to match or surpass the Xbox's 4K performance.

The key factor appears to be a tailored AMD processor combined with a remarkably swift DDR5 memory, which noticeably contributes to stable 30fps performance. I witness this consistently in practice.

Frankly, I’d favor the Xbox One over PC gaming – observing frequent stutters and performance issues on numerous forums. Why invest your time in a demanding experience when you simply want to play?

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jrobbs7
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10-06-2017, 05:31 PM
#14
Absolutely, running the Xbox One X on a 65-inch OLED television delivers an incredible 4K experience—it’s remarkably stable, consistently smooth, and allows for expansive viewing distances without any noticeable lag. It effectively handles both brand-new and many older titles from the Xbox 360 console, plus its online service is exceptionally reliable. Considering its price point, the One X offers exceptional value, costing just $500—a bargain when compared to a high-end graphics card which typically retails for around $718.
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jrobbs7
10-06-2017, 05:31 PM #14

Absolutely, running the Xbox One X on a 65-inch OLED television delivers an incredible 4K experience—it’s remarkably stable, consistently smooth, and allows for expansive viewing distances without any noticeable lag. It effectively handles both brand-new and many older titles from the Xbox 360 console, plus its online service is exceptionally reliable. Considering its price point, the One X offers exceptional value, costing just $500—a bargain when compared to a high-end graphics card which typically retails for around $718.

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Steff330
Junior Member
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10-21-2017, 12:46 PM
#15
Fortunately, I possess both a personal computer and an Xbox console. I strongly favor the PC for first-person shooter games, while I enjoy using my television with the Xbox to play racing games alongside my Playseat and family members, especially when playing cooperative titles.
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Steff330
10-21-2017, 12:46 PM #15

Fortunately, I possess both a personal computer and an Xbox console. I strongly favor the PC for first-person shooter games, while I enjoy using my television with the Xbox to play racing games alongside my Playseat and family members, especially when playing cooperative titles.

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tobygamer123
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10-21-2017, 05:04 PM
#16
Roland Of Gilead:

killerabdb:
Roland Of Gilead:
I'd unequivocally choose the PC one hundred times out of a hundred. Aside from limited game releases exclusive to Xbox, it's consistently the PC that offers the superior experience. Its processing capabilities significantly surpass those of an Xbox One X or any contemporary console.

This PC would be exceptionally powerful, delivering visuals that exceed those of the Xbox, and it offers far greater customization options. PCs provide significantly more versatility; you can upgrade individual components over time, maintaining a remarkably robust system for 4 to 5 years (depending on your upgrades and what you're upgrading *to*!).

However, why does the X1X achieve a stable 4K frame rate at 30fps while this PC configuration would difficulty achieving the same on ultra settings? Considering this configuration’s superior power, shouldn't it be able to match or even surpass the Xbox’s 4K performance? I find this perplexing.

That’s partially accurate. The PC's specifications are undeniably more potent and represent a more advanced system overall. Yet, the Xbox is essentially engineered solely for gaming purposes. It maximizes every ounce of its hardware, even though it’s now somewhat outdated. (Similarly, the R580 GPU within this PC would be considered dated – I’ll revisit that later.) However, its hardware and design are distinct from typical PC architecture. While it can sometimes provide 30/60 fps at 4K and look respectable, the PC has the potential for superior performance. It’s largely a matter of personal preference, with valid arguments for both platforms.

I admit I’m inclined to favor the PC due to my enjoyment of upgrading my system to maintain optimal gaming quality and because it’s better suited for the games I typically play. Nevertheless, there are certain titles that I prefer to experience on my PlayStation 4 – usually just one or two. Otherwise, the PC reigns supreme due to its upgradeability.

Finally, a quick question: could the Xbox One X run Battlefield 5 at 1080p with a consistent frame rate of 75fps, matching the PC’s ultra settings?
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tobygamer123
10-21-2017, 05:04 PM #16

Roland Of Gilead:

killerabdb:
Roland Of Gilead:
I'd unequivocally choose the PC one hundred times out of a hundred. Aside from limited game releases exclusive to Xbox, it's consistently the PC that offers the superior experience. Its processing capabilities significantly surpass those of an Xbox One X or any contemporary console.

This PC would be exceptionally powerful, delivering visuals that exceed those of the Xbox, and it offers far greater customization options. PCs provide significantly more versatility; you can upgrade individual components over time, maintaining a remarkably robust system for 4 to 5 years (depending on your upgrades and what you're upgrading *to*!).

However, why does the X1X achieve a stable 4K frame rate at 30fps while this PC configuration would difficulty achieving the same on ultra settings? Considering this configuration’s superior power, shouldn't it be able to match or even surpass the Xbox’s 4K performance? I find this perplexing.

That’s partially accurate. The PC's specifications are undeniably more potent and represent a more advanced system overall. Yet, the Xbox is essentially engineered solely for gaming purposes. It maximizes every ounce of its hardware, even though it’s now somewhat outdated. (Similarly, the R580 GPU within this PC would be considered dated – I’ll revisit that later.) However, its hardware and design are distinct from typical PC architecture. While it can sometimes provide 30/60 fps at 4K and look respectable, the PC has the potential for superior performance. It’s largely a matter of personal preference, with valid arguments for both platforms.

I admit I’m inclined to favor the PC due to my enjoyment of upgrading my system to maintain optimal gaming quality and because it’s better suited for the games I typically play. Nevertheless, there are certain titles that I prefer to experience on my PlayStation 4 – usually just one or two. Otherwise, the PC reigns supreme due to its upgradeability.

Finally, a quick question: could the Xbox One X run Battlefield 5 at 1080p with a consistent frame rate of 75fps, matching the PC’s ultra settings?

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Cookinath
Junior Member
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10-25-2017, 08:43 PM
#17
I’m fortunate to possess both a desktop computer and an Xbox console. I strongly favor the PC for first-person shooter games, while the Xbox setup – combined with my television and Playseat for racing, as well as enjoyable multiplayer experiences – is ideal.

It’s worth noting that Razer is producing a keyboard and mouse specifically designed for the Xbox, allowing you to utilize precise controls on that platform if desired.
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Cookinath
10-25-2017, 08:43 PM #17

I’m fortunate to possess both a desktop computer and an Xbox console. I strongly favor the PC for first-person shooter games, while the Xbox setup – combined with my television and Playseat for racing, as well as enjoyable multiplayer experiences – is ideal.

It’s worth noting that Razer is producing a keyboard and mouse specifically designed for the Xbox, allowing you to utilize precise controls on that platform if desired.

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Gurkan10
Junior Member
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10-25-2017, 10:45 PM
#18
Regarding the Xbox: The console’s performance is capped at 60 frames per second, irrespective of that graphics card. Nevertheless, using that particular GPU, you should anticipate achieving over 75 frames per second at that resolution: It appears to average approximately 80 frames per second in Battlefield 1, and while the underlying game engine is identical, you might experience a slight reduction in frame rates (on average) when playing Battlefield V compared to Battlefield 1. However, yes, I would suggest it can maintain Ultra settings at that resolution. Are you adjusting your monitor’s refresh rate to 75Hz? You previously indicated a 1080p 60Hz display. Thank you. I possess a 75Hz monitor, and I mentioned 60fps because it’s the standard. If I were to play a graphically intensive game on the Xbox at 1080p 60fps, what level of visual quality could I anticipate? Would the appearance resemble PC’s Ultra settings, or would adjustments be necessary to achieve that at 1080p/60?
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Gurkan10
10-25-2017, 10:45 PM #18

Regarding the Xbox: The console’s performance is capped at 60 frames per second, irrespective of that graphics card. Nevertheless, using that particular GPU, you should anticipate achieving over 75 frames per second at that resolution: It appears to average approximately 80 frames per second in Battlefield 1, and while the underlying game engine is identical, you might experience a slight reduction in frame rates (on average) when playing Battlefield V compared to Battlefield 1. However, yes, I would suggest it can maintain Ultra settings at that resolution. Are you adjusting your monitor’s refresh rate to 75Hz? You previously indicated a 1080p 60Hz display. Thank you. I possess a 75Hz monitor, and I mentioned 60fps because it’s the standard. If I were to play a graphically intensive game on the Xbox at 1080p 60fps, what level of visual quality could I anticipate? Would the appearance resemble PC’s Ultra settings, or would adjustments be necessary to achieve that at 1080p/60?

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joan1431
Junior Member
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10-27-2017, 09:46 AM
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It has been noted in many discussions that these two items are not comparable; they represent entirely distinct products.
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joan1431
10-27-2017, 09:46 AM #19

It has been noted in many discussions that these two items are not comparable; they represent entirely distinct products.

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10-27-2017, 06:21 PM
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Roland Of Gilead: I'd take the PC 100 times out of 100. Apart from specific game releases that ONLY come out for xbox, it’s the PC every time. It's a much better experience. That PC spec is much more powerful than an Xbox One x or any other current gen console. That PC would be very capable, give better graphics than the Xbox, plus it's much more configurable. You can do much more with a PC. You can always upgrade components down the line, and still have a kick ass system for 4-5 years (depending on what you upgrade, and what you upgrade to!) Thanks for that, but why is it that the X1X can do 4K at a stable 30fps while something like this PC spec would struggle to do 4K 30fps stable on ultra? If this spec is more powerful than an X1X, then surely it should be able to match the Xbox’s 4K performance or even exceed it? I don't get it. Yes, that’s true in a way. The ‘specs’ of the PC are much more powerful and it's a more capable system. On the other hand, the xbox is really just a designed gaming machine. That's it’s task. It gets the most out of its hardware, even though now at this stage it's dated. (as is the R580 GPU in the PC - I’ll come back to that) But that hardware and it's design is a little different from PC architecture. Yes, it can in some games give 30/60 fps @4k and be nice, but you ‘can’ get better performance with the PC. It's very subjective though, and there are arguments for both. I’m biased because I like to upgrade my PC to maintain high quality gaming, and for the games I play (mostly) the PC is better suited. But equally so, some games I prefer to play on my PS4. But it’s only one or two games. The rest is PC all the way. The main reason is being able to upgrade the GPU. OK, just one more question. Would the Xbox One X be able to run something like Battlefield 5 at 1080p locked at 75fps on the PC ultra settings? Peter Martin: sizzling: I’m lucky, I have both PC and Xbox. I much prefer the PC for FPS games. I prefer the xbox setup with my nice TV for racing with my Playseat and also family/co-op games. You know Razer is making a keyboard and mouse for the Xbox, right? Now you can play on that if you want with your precise controls. https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/25/17500...zer-chroma Roland Of Gilead: The Xbox won’t run above 60fps, regardless. However, with that GPU, you should be able to hit above 75 fps at that res: It seems to hit about the 80ish mark in BF1, and although the game engine is the same, you might lose a FPS (on average) in BF V versus BF1. But yes, I’d say it would keep Ultra at that res. Are you OC'ing the monitor to get 75hz? You did mention 1080p 60hz earlier. Thanks and I have a 75Hz monitor, I said 60fps because that’s the common thing. Anyway, if I were to play a demanding title on the X at 1080p 60fps, what graphical settings should I expect? Would the visuals be similar to PC’s ultra settings, or would there be compromises at 1080p60? Apologies, I misread your last post, and gave some incorrect info. The Xbox can run 120hz, but I’m not sure if there are games that take advantage of that. And that's also not at 4k. It’s my understanding that Xbox graphics are of lesser quality than PC graphics. So I'd equate normal Xbox graphics settings to roughly high settings on a PC. That’s where the hardware in a PC give more quality than the limited capabilities of the console GPU.
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SpeedyConsaleZ
10-27-2017, 06:21 PM #20

Roland Of Gilead: I'd take the PC 100 times out of 100. Apart from specific game releases that ONLY come out for xbox, it’s the PC every time. It's a much better experience. That PC spec is much more powerful than an Xbox One x or any other current gen console. That PC would be very capable, give better graphics than the Xbox, plus it's much more configurable. You can do much more with a PC. You can always upgrade components down the line, and still have a kick ass system for 4-5 years (depending on what you upgrade, and what you upgrade to!) Thanks for that, but why is it that the X1X can do 4K at a stable 30fps while something like this PC spec would struggle to do 4K 30fps stable on ultra? If this spec is more powerful than an X1X, then surely it should be able to match the Xbox’s 4K performance or even exceed it? I don't get it. Yes, that’s true in a way. The ‘specs’ of the PC are much more powerful and it's a more capable system. On the other hand, the xbox is really just a designed gaming machine. That's it’s task. It gets the most out of its hardware, even though now at this stage it's dated. (as is the R580 GPU in the PC - I’ll come back to that) But that hardware and it's design is a little different from PC architecture. Yes, it can in some games give 30/60 fps @4k and be nice, but you ‘can’ get better performance with the PC. It's very subjective though, and there are arguments for both. I’m biased because I like to upgrade my PC to maintain high quality gaming, and for the games I play (mostly) the PC is better suited. But equally so, some games I prefer to play on my PS4. But it’s only one or two games. The rest is PC all the way. The main reason is being able to upgrade the GPU. OK, just one more question. Would the Xbox One X be able to run something like Battlefield 5 at 1080p locked at 75fps on the PC ultra settings? Peter Martin: sizzling: I’m lucky, I have both PC and Xbox. I much prefer the PC for FPS games. I prefer the xbox setup with my nice TV for racing with my Playseat and also family/co-op games. You know Razer is making a keyboard and mouse for the Xbox, right? Now you can play on that if you want with your precise controls. https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/25/17500...zer-chroma Roland Of Gilead: The Xbox won’t run above 60fps, regardless. However, with that GPU, you should be able to hit above 75 fps at that res: It seems to hit about the 80ish mark in BF1, and although the game engine is the same, you might lose a FPS (on average) in BF V versus BF1. But yes, I’d say it would keep Ultra at that res. Are you OC'ing the monitor to get 75hz? You did mention 1080p 60hz earlier. Thanks and I have a 75Hz monitor, I said 60fps because that’s the common thing. Anyway, if I were to play a demanding title on the X at 1080p 60fps, what graphical settings should I expect? Would the visuals be similar to PC’s ultra settings, or would there be compromises at 1080p60? Apologies, I misread your last post, and gave some incorrect info. The Xbox can run 120hz, but I’m not sure if there are games that take advantage of that. And that's also not at 4k. It’s my understanding that Xbox graphics are of lesser quality than PC graphics. So I'd equate normal Xbox graphics settings to roughly high settings on a PC. That’s where the hardware in a PC give more quality than the limited capabilities of the console GPU.

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