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Comparing 12100F and 11400F on a mid-range GPU highlights their differences in performance and features.

Comparing 12100F and 11400F on a mid-range GPU highlights their differences in performance and features.

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Xmansniper
Junior Member
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08-28-2022, 10:16 PM
#11
It's worth noting that I'm not focusing on H610 unless you're planning to build an office or multimedia PC. You'd likely need to spend an additional $20-30 for a B660 board to avoid issues like memory overclocking limitations and single DIMM per channel constraints. For a build of this scale, a Celeron or i3 processor would suffice, and you'd only really be concerned about VRMs if they're prone to overheating. The models I'm evaluating are the B660 and H670. The B660 Plus D4 falls around $140, offering five USB Type A ports and what seems like a 6+2 phase power delivery—though this isn't confirmed on the product page. The B660-A Pro is expected to have an extra Type A port, larger heatsinks, and a 12+2 phase VRM. ASRock's offerings appear competitive in price with decent VRM options, but their pricing can be inconsistent. Z690 Taichi boards are also available, though details remain unclear. Right now, it's best to wait for more reviews and pricing information before deciding. Any current advice is just based on assumptions. ASUS may have improved MOSFETs in their H610, but if the VRM design is weak or there are other motherboard issues, that would be a bigger concern.
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Xmansniper
08-28-2022, 10:16 PM #11

It's worth noting that I'm not focusing on H610 unless you're planning to build an office or multimedia PC. You'd likely need to spend an additional $20-30 for a B660 board to avoid issues like memory overclocking limitations and single DIMM per channel constraints. For a build of this scale, a Celeron or i3 processor would suffice, and you'd only really be concerned about VRMs if they're prone to overheating. The models I'm evaluating are the B660 and H670. The B660 Plus D4 falls around $140, offering five USB Type A ports and what seems like a 6+2 phase power delivery—though this isn't confirmed on the product page. The B660-A Pro is expected to have an extra Type A port, larger heatsinks, and a 12+2 phase VRM. ASRock's offerings appear competitive in price with decent VRM options, but their pricing can be inconsistent. Z690 Taichi boards are also available, though details remain unclear. Right now, it's best to wait for more reviews and pricing information before deciding. Any current advice is just based on assumptions. ASUS may have improved MOSFETs in their H610, but if the VRM design is weak or there are other motherboard issues, that would be a bigger concern.

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ChloeET
Senior Member
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09-02-2022, 10:28 AM
#12
Still valid before, not just now. Why invest the extra $20-30 when the H610 offers comparable VRMs and double M.2 slots? And memory overclocking doesn't really help on Alder Lake? A Crucial 3000 MHz 15-16-16 would make a big difference. Yes, the Asus model has fewer USB ports, but the $140 board includes an external 1x USB-C 3.2 (20Gb/s) and internal 5GB/s USB-C for better performance. Can you review the geizhals links for a detailed VRM comparison? All the info is there. We should also agree on testing to confirm if there are any issues with the H610's VRMs, though that’s more relevant for the 12100F. Please stop bringing up board discussions here and move them to another thread; it would get too cluttered with too much text for you.
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ChloeET
09-02-2022, 10:28 AM #12

Still valid before, not just now. Why invest the extra $20-30 when the H610 offers comparable VRMs and double M.2 slots? And memory overclocking doesn't really help on Alder Lake? A Crucial 3000 MHz 15-16-16 would make a big difference. Yes, the Asus model has fewer USB ports, but the $140 board includes an external 1x USB-C 3.2 (20Gb/s) and internal 5GB/s USB-C for better performance. Can you review the geizhals links for a detailed VRM comparison? All the info is there. We should also agree on testing to confirm if there are any issues with the H610's VRMs, though that’s more relevant for the 12100F. Please stop bringing up board discussions here and move them to another thread; it would get too cluttered with too much text for you.

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M0rdeKaiser
Member
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09-02-2022, 11:03 AM
#13
Memory overclocking has long been used to boost performance, and Alder Lake gains from exceeding 3200MHz. However, IO options become even more restricted. You'd likely pay $20-30 for two additional USB ports. With only one DIMM per channel, it might not seem much unless you're budgeting for future upgrades—then you'd need to purchase new RAM entirely. Also, those H610 boards seem to have better MOSFETs, but we don't know much about the rest of the board until proper reviews come out. Don't assume ASUS is the top choice; check what ASRock, Gigabyte, and MSI offer before making a decision.
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M0rdeKaiser
09-02-2022, 11:03 AM #13

Memory overclocking has long been used to boost performance, and Alder Lake gains from exceeding 3200MHz. However, IO options become even more restricted. You'd likely pay $20-30 for two additional USB ports. With only one DIMM per channel, it might not seem much unless you're budgeting for future upgrades—then you'd need to purchase new RAM entirely. Also, those H610 boards seem to have better MOSFETs, but we don't know much about the rest of the board until proper reviews come out. Don't assume ASUS is the top choice; check what ASRock, Gigabyte, and MSI offer before making a decision.

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Cherry_Bell
Member
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09-02-2022, 04:52 PM
#14
Alder lake generally falls short in that price range compared to other options. Focus on what fits your needs rather than chasing premium specs. I’m not claiming Asus is always the top choice, but if their low-end matches the best value of this generation, there’s no need to waste money on higher-end alternatives for 12100F/12400F builds.
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Cherry_Bell
09-02-2022, 04:52 PM #14

Alder lake generally falls short in that price range compared to other options. Focus on what fits your needs rather than chasing premium specs. I’m not claiming Asus is always the top choice, but if their low-end matches the best value of this generation, there’s no need to waste money on higher-end alternatives for 12100F/12400F builds.

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_DamTDM_
Member
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09-02-2022, 09:16 PM
#15
It seems the focus has shifted away from the 12100/12400 series with H610/B660. Currently, we only have SKUs up to i5-12600K in my region. I’ll have to hold off until 12100 or 12300 for pricing details. I’m hoping reviews on these budget CPUs and their motherboard VRMs appear before my country receives the chips. The 12400F exceeds my budget since it’s priced above 11400 (non-F). Also, the RTX 3050/3060 won’t arrive until after I build my PC, so I’ll rely on my built-in GPU for older games. “F” chips aren’t on my list. Memory overclocking—like boosting from 3200CL16 to 4000CL18—might marginally improve iGPU performance. I’ll also need to pick a motherboard that pairs well with new Intel stock coolers and supports higher power limits. A lot to think about. I’ll wait about a month before making a decision.
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_DamTDM_
09-02-2022, 09:16 PM #15

It seems the focus has shifted away from the 12100/12400 series with H610/B660. Currently, we only have SKUs up to i5-12600K in my region. I’ll have to hold off until 12100 or 12300 for pricing details. I’m hoping reviews on these budget CPUs and their motherboard VRMs appear before my country receives the chips. The 12400F exceeds my budget since it’s priced above 11400 (non-F). Also, the RTX 3050/3060 won’t arrive until after I build my PC, so I’ll rely on my built-in GPU for older games. “F” chips aren’t on my list. Memory overclocking—like boosting from 3200CL16 to 4000CL18—might marginally improve iGPU performance. I’ll also need to pick a motherboard that pairs well with new Intel stock coolers and supports higher power limits. A lot to think about. I’ll wait about a month before making a decision.

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Mr_Ono
Junior Member
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09-05-2022, 05:36 PM
#16
Removing power limits doesn't help with 12100 or 12400 models; no clear performance boost. The stock cooler functions on both but is extremely noisy with the 12100. You can still use a tray version without an integrated cooler and Arctic Cooling Freezer I13 for 15 euros (similar price in the US), which provides significant cooling power. This adjustment, however, alters some options I previously suggested. If you want to maximize the benefits of the IGPus, pay attention to benchmarks featuring 12100/12400 and faster RAM—those are worth considering for a B660. Alternatively, a more affordable setup like an 11400 + b560 combo could be better. Main focus should remain on securing a Nvidia 3050 with at least 8GB of memory, as availability might be limited initially, possibly only a few hours to a couple of days.
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Mr_Ono
09-05-2022, 05:36 PM #16

Removing power limits doesn't help with 12100 or 12400 models; no clear performance boost. The stock cooler functions on both but is extremely noisy with the 12100. You can still use a tray version without an integrated cooler and Arctic Cooling Freezer I13 for 15 euros (similar price in the US), which provides significant cooling power. This adjustment, however, alters some options I previously suggested. If you want to maximize the benefits of the IGPus, pay attention to benchmarks featuring 12100/12400 and faster RAM—those are worth considering for a B660. Alternatively, a more affordable setup like an 11400 + b560 combo could be better. Main focus should remain on securing a Nvidia 3050 with at least 8GB of memory, as availability might be limited initially, possibly only a few hours to a couple of days.

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lurado04
Member
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09-20-2022, 03:51 PM
#17
12100 plus H610M-K equals 40w in PUBG (with discrete 6900 XT GPU). Generally it performs exceptionally well. XMP functions, dual-channel is supported, the 12100 is near 12400, both are reasonably close to 5600x in certain titles. The integrated 12100 offers limited power, so it's unclear if this is the optimal choice for your needs. However, with a discrete GPU, it's certainly the right path. A bit pricier ($10–15), but better options include more M.2 slots, quicker USB, or a B660 if you need extra I/O.
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lurado04
09-20-2022, 03:51 PM #17

12100 plus H610M-K equals 40w in PUBG (with discrete 6900 XT GPU). Generally it performs exceptionally well. XMP functions, dual-channel is supported, the 12100 is near 12400, both are reasonably close to 5600x in certain titles. The integrated 12100 offers limited power, so it's unclear if this is the optimal choice for your needs. However, with a discrete GPU, it's certainly the right path. A bit pricier ($10–15), but better options include more M.2 slots, quicker USB, or a B660 if you need extra I/O.

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TitanJR
Member
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09-20-2022, 09:46 PM
#18
I'm based in India and there are no tray versions available here. I'm trying to find the RTX 3050 with 8GB RAM at a fair price, but it's really tough. Many sellers are active online. If I can't secure one, I'll look elsewhere and pick a CPU for iGPU gaming. I already have a lot of games in my queue that work well on iGPU with medium settings and 1080p resolution. Thanks!
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TitanJR
09-20-2022, 09:46 PM #18

I'm based in India and there are no tray versions available here. I'm trying to find the RTX 3050 with 8GB RAM at a fair price, but it's really tough. Many sellers are active online. If I can't secure one, I'll look elsewhere and pick a CPU for iGPU gaming. I already have a lot of games in my queue that work well on iGPU with medium settings and 1080p resolution. Thanks!

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