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Compare Ryzen 4900X/4950X with 11900K in terms of performance and features.

Compare Ryzen 4900X/4950X with 11900K in terms of performance and features.

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NorthwestSun
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07-15-2021, 10:38 PM
#21
Yes, the 4th generation Ryzen and the 11th generation Intel launched unexpectedly.
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NorthwestSun
07-15-2021, 10:38 PM #21

Yes, the 4th generation Ryzen and the 11th generation Intel launched unexpectedly.

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TatitoGamerHD
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07-17-2021, 11:37 PM
#22
Thread Cleaned - Keep it focused. Stay engaged. If you're not ready to join the conversation, just move along. Welcome everyone and encourage open sharing of ideas in a respectful way. "Don't be a dick" – Wil Wheaton. "Be excellent to each other" – Bill and Ted. Think about who you're talking to now and who will come later.
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TatitoGamerHD
07-17-2021, 11:37 PM #22

Thread Cleaned - Keep it focused. Stay engaged. If you're not ready to join the conversation, just move along. Welcome everyone and encourage open sharing of ideas in a respectful way. "Don't be a dick" – Wil Wheaton. "Be excellent to each other" – Bill and Ted. Think about who you're talking to now and who will come later.

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UnknwnLifted
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07-18-2021, 07:17 AM
#23
I thought I messed up my explanation, so I'll try to clarify more clearly. Back then, the i7 4770k wasn't great for gaming alone; I wanted something that would keep working well for a long time. In the 4000 series it was the same, but when I checked benchmarks between the 4690k and 4790k, I felt confident in my decision. To reach that goal, I planned to upgrade to a modern motherboard paired with an affordable CPU. Once the current-gen board releases, I'd invest in something that would maintain strong performance for 4 to 5 years or more. If speed matters more than power consumption during hot months, that becomes the key consideration.

I didn’t ask you to dig up future data or predictions, but I was hoping someone had already analyzed past releases and could give informed estimates. For example, if I look at trends like “the 11th gen will still use 14nm, so performance should improve by a certain percentage compared to the last few years,” that would help.

My main goal was to avoid guesswork and rely on solid analysis. I’m just being honest about why I felt frustrated—I’m naturally curious, but I didn’t expect you to anticipate this specific need.
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UnknwnLifted
07-18-2021, 07:17 AM #23

I thought I messed up my explanation, so I'll try to clarify more clearly. Back then, the i7 4770k wasn't great for gaming alone; I wanted something that would keep working well for a long time. In the 4000 series it was the same, but when I checked benchmarks between the 4690k and 4790k, I felt confident in my decision. To reach that goal, I planned to upgrade to a modern motherboard paired with an affordable CPU. Once the current-gen board releases, I'd invest in something that would maintain strong performance for 4 to 5 years or more. If speed matters more than power consumption during hot months, that becomes the key consideration.

I didn’t ask you to dig up future data or predictions, but I was hoping someone had already analyzed past releases and could give informed estimates. For example, if I look at trends like “the 11th gen will still use 14nm, so performance should improve by a certain percentage compared to the last few years,” that would help.

My main goal was to avoid guesswork and rely on solid analysis. I’m just being honest about why I felt frustrated—I’m naturally curious, but I didn’t expect you to anticipate this specific need.

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Cr4zyGamer_
Junior Member
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07-19-2021, 07:47 PM
#24
The likelihood of your CPU failing completely is low. Expecting otherwise means you're looking at a system that won't last a decade. Spending extra for each generation isn't usually wise. The gap between one CPU era and the next rarely justifies the cost. If you're focused on performance, a 10600k should suffice. For AMD, it's still inferior but not drastically so. You didn’t share any details about your setup—like resolution or frame rate—which are key for a tailored suggestion. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn’t realize the difference matters when it comes to heat output. It will likely be overwhelmed by the GPU’s cooling needs. That’s exactly what you wanted to know. Your question about which chip is better among unreleased ones seems unclear, given how you ended the conversation.
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Cr4zyGamer_
07-19-2021, 07:47 PM #24

The likelihood of your CPU failing completely is low. Expecting otherwise means you're looking at a system that won't last a decade. Spending extra for each generation isn't usually wise. The gap between one CPU era and the next rarely justifies the cost. If you're focused on performance, a 10600k should suffice. For AMD, it's still inferior but not drastically so. You didn’t share any details about your setup—like resolution or frame rate—which are key for a tailored suggestion. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn’t realize the difference matters when it comes to heat output. It will likely be overwhelmed by the GPU’s cooling needs. That’s exactly what you wanted to know. Your question about which chip is better among unreleased ones seems unclear, given how you ended the conversation.

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JonnyB117
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07-21-2021, 02:03 PM
#25
we've reached a standstill in single-thread performance, and the next significant improvement will likely require a major generational leap—this wait might take years. any additional 14nm release from intel won't alter the situation. if you need an upgrade, a 10600k is a solid choice; my estimate suggests it could be at least two years before the next big advancement, if it comes at all. i strongly advise against waiting. though, we're still heavily dependent on cpu performance at lower resolutions, and that trend won't change much. with the budget, as long as you're seeing gains, it's acceptable. recently someone installed a 360 aio on a 3600 using a 2070S, and i almost said something... i checked if they'd purchased the components first.
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JonnyB117
07-21-2021, 02:03 PM #25

we've reached a standstill in single-thread performance, and the next significant improvement will likely require a major generational leap—this wait might take years. any additional 14nm release from intel won't alter the situation. if you need an upgrade, a 10600k is a solid choice; my estimate suggests it could be at least two years before the next big advancement, if it comes at all. i strongly advise against waiting. though, we're still heavily dependent on cpu performance at lower resolutions, and that trend won't change much. with the budget, as long as you're seeing gains, it's acceptable. recently someone installed a 360 aio on a 3600 using a 2070S, and i almost said something... i checked if they'd purchased the components first.

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