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Compare AP and Router modes to understand their differences.

Compare AP and Router modes to understand their differences.

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elorable
Member
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04-15-2017, 10:27 PM
#1
I receive internet via coaxial service, using an ISP router/modem setup with disabled router features. My Wi-Fi is powered by the AC1900 Nighthawk (R6900). Since I'm in AP mode, I need to apply QOS settings, which aren't available in router mode. I've heard AP mode is typically used for offices with servers and Ethernet ports, but I'm curious if switching to router mode on my Nighthawk works without issues. Could you explain the advantages and disadvantages of AP versus router modes? I wonder if I accidentally turned AP on before and forgot about it.
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elorable
04-15-2017, 10:27 PM #1

I receive internet via coaxial service, using an ISP router/modem setup with disabled router features. My Wi-Fi is powered by the AC1900 Nighthawk (R6900). Since I'm in AP mode, I need to apply QOS settings, which aren't available in router mode. I've heard AP mode is typically used for offices with servers and Ethernet ports, but I'm curious if switching to router mode on my Nighthawk works without issues. Could you explain the advantages and disadvantages of AP versus router modes? I wonder if I accidentally turned AP on before and forgot about it.

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SLOgamingLP
Member
220
04-19-2017, 11:56 AM
#2
If it's functioning as a modem, set it up as a regular router using the ac1900. Enable NAT on your ISP router or modem, then disable it if you don't need native IP addressing.
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SLOgamingLP
04-19-2017, 11:56 AM #2

If it's functioning as a modem, set it up as a regular router using the ac1900. Enable NAT on your ISP router or modem, then disable it if you don't need native IP addressing.

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ArchangelZ21
Member
209
04-24-2017, 12:46 PM
#3
Do you need NAT disabled for the router to function properly?
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ArchangelZ21
04-24-2017, 12:46 PM #3

Do you need NAT disabled for the router to function properly?

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MaskeddPig
Member
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04-30-2017, 11:26 AM
#4
Standard operation uses NAT. Change to bridged if another device handles routing/firewall.
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MaskeddPig
04-30-2017, 11:26 AM #4

Standard operation uses NAT. Change to bridged if another device handles routing/firewall.

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EpicMack02
Junior Member
46
05-05-2017, 07:06 AM
#5
The modem operates in NAT mode, which means all devices share a single IP address. This setup aligns with your understanding of the configuration steps. Regarding NAT security, it's still possible to maintain security measures even after this change.
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EpicMack02
05-05-2017, 07:06 AM #5

The modem operates in NAT mode, which means all devices share a single IP address. This setup aligns with your understanding of the configuration steps. Regarding NAT security, it's still possible to maintain security measures even after this change.

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zMadeus
Posting Freak
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05-05-2017, 03:12 PM
#6
Almost there, you're on the right track. Once the ISP box is connected, you'll have a modem. Then link your AC1900 router to the ISP modem, and everything should function properly, with NAT handled by your AC1900 router.
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zMadeus
05-05-2017, 03:12 PM #6

Almost there, you're on the right track. Once the ISP box is connected, you'll have a modem. Then link your AC1900 router to the ISP modem, and everything should function properly, with NAT handled by your AC1900 router.

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Char1ie_XD
Senior Member
578
05-06-2017, 04:58 AM
#7
If you didn’t configure the ISP box as bridged and set the AC1900 as a router, it would likely function as a regular router without the advanced features of a bridge. This could affect how devices connect and share network traffic.
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Char1ie_XD
05-06-2017, 04:58 AM #7

If you didn’t configure the ISP box as bridged and set the AC1900 as a router, it would likely function as a regular router without the advanced features of a bridge. This could affect how devices connect and share network traffic.

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DRamboPT
Junior Member
37
05-06-2017, 05:31 AM
#8
Ensure both routers operate from separate IP ranges—for instance, your ISP box provides addresses like 192.168.1.xxx while your personal router uses 192.168.2.xxx. Using the same range for both causes the built-in DHCP servers to clash, potentially crashing the network. Devices passing through either firewall must still navigate additional layers, making port forwarding more complex. Install portforwarding rules on each router for devices routed through multiple networks. Ideally, keep one router dedicated solely to troubleshooting. For expanding Wi-Fi coverage, consider alternative methods beyond chaining routers.
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DRamboPT
05-06-2017, 05:31 AM #8

Ensure both routers operate from separate IP ranges—for instance, your ISP box provides addresses like 192.168.1.xxx while your personal router uses 192.168.2.xxx. Using the same range for both causes the built-in DHCP servers to clash, potentially crashing the network. Devices passing through either firewall must still navigate additional layers, making port forwarding more complex. Install portforwarding rules on each router for devices routed through multiple networks. Ideally, keep one router dedicated solely to troubleshooting. For expanding Wi-Fi coverage, consider alternative methods beyond chaining routers.

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luc00700
Member
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05-07-2017, 06:43 AM
#9
Everything functions properly, but I'm unable to reach my ISP box admin panel anymore—I can still connect to the AC1900s. Updated: To get to the modem in bridge mode, I need to reset it via the button, though it's working well at the moment.
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luc00700
05-07-2017, 06:43 AM #9

Everything functions properly, but I'm unable to reach my ISP box admin panel anymore—I can still connect to the AC1900s. Updated: To get to the modem in bridge mode, I need to reset it via the button, though it's working well at the moment.