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Choose between Ubiquiti and pfSense based on your needs.

Choose between Ubiquiti and pfSense based on your needs.

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Elgin0130
Junior Member
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09-22-2021, 04:46 AM
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Hello, I’d like to connect my ISP router with a custom one for better network management. I’m considering either an Ubiquiti device (no Wi-Fi needed) or a 4x2.5Gbps model from Ali using pfSense. The first option seems easier to set up, but I want to know which offers more control. I’d like to use Pi-hole for blocking sites and maybe enable traffic monitoring. Please advise on the best choice. Thanks!
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Elgin0130
09-22-2021, 04:46 AM #1

Hello, I’d like to connect my ISP router with a custom one for better network management. I’m considering either an Ubiquiti device (no Wi-Fi needed) or a 4x2.5Gbps model from Ali using pfSense. The first option seems easier to set up, but I want to know which offers more control. I’d like to use Pi-hole for blocking sites and maybe enable traffic monitoring. Please advise on the best choice. Thanks!

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xFilbert_
Member
191
09-23-2021, 04:58 AM
#2
With existing Ubiquiti equipment, using the router will maintain consistency.
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xFilbert_
09-23-2021, 04:58 AM #2

With existing Ubiquiti equipment, using the router will maintain consistency.

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Aeg11_
Junior Member
33
09-26-2021, 06:55 AM
#3
How deeply you've explored the ISP's router setup is limited, as most options only offer manual DNS configuration. This feature lets you pihole, handling both blocking and basic traffic tracking.
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Aeg11_
09-26-2021, 06:55 AM #3

How deeply you've explored the ISP's router setup is limited, as most options only offer manual DNS configuration. This feature lets you pihole, handling both blocking and basic traffic tracking.

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Nashiko57
Senior Member
485
10-11-2021, 08:41 AM
#4
I tried pfSense initially, but then moved to OPNsense because managing your own hardware gives you more freedom. I use Ubquiti access points. Some devices are simpler to set up than others, depending on their support. A firewall with at least two LAN ports works well. There’s no issue with pihole, but it might just be adding complexity that isn’t necessary. Many people handle ad blocking through the firewall—this can also be done with pfSense or OPNsense. I haven’t used pihole much since switching.
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Nashiko57
10-11-2021, 08:41 AM #4

I tried pfSense initially, but then moved to OPNsense because managing your own hardware gives you more freedom. I use Ubquiti access points. Some devices are simpler to set up than others, depending on their support. A firewall with at least two LAN ports works well. There’s no issue with pihole, but it might just be adding complexity that isn’t necessary. Many people handle ad blocking through the firewall—this can also be done with pfSense or OPNsense. I haven’t used pihole much since switching.

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Skotcher
Member
182
10-13-2021, 03:33 AM
#5
ISP has restricted my router access unless I pay for their Wi-Fi service. Because I don’t plan to do that, I can’t connect. The issue isn’t specifically Pihole—I’ve heard about it but not sure how it works. I want the ability to block certain websites or IP addresses, like hiding Samsung TV ads from my menu. If the router can also filter ads on its own, that would be ideal. To be clear, I’m using one U6+ AP and haven’t set up Ubiquiti yet. The controller runs locally on a Synology device.
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Skotcher
10-13-2021, 03:33 AM #5

ISP has restricted my router access unless I pay for their Wi-Fi service. Because I don’t plan to do that, I can’t connect. The issue isn’t specifically Pihole—I’ve heard about it but not sure how it works. I want the ability to block certain websites or IP addresses, like hiding Samsung TV ads from my menu. If the router can also filter ads on its own, that would be ideal. To be clear, I’m using one U6+ AP and haven’t set up Ubiquiti yet. The controller runs locally on a Synology device.

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10-13-2021, 06:05 AM
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Can they configure the router to operate in bridge or DMZ mode when you place your own device behind it? You’ll need this unless you’re okay with double NAT. I use PFSense as my edge firewall (avoid using it as a switch, even with a 4-port NIC—assign one port for WAN and another for LAN… switches should stay switches, PFSense is a firewall). I also run UniFi switches and APs, and the VLANs work seamlessly. I’m using pfblockerNG on the firewall instead of pihole to block unwanted traffic at the network edge. I think the newer UniFi firewalls are solid choices as well, though I’m not very familiar with them.
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Stampede_Ace_2
10-13-2021, 06:05 AM #6

Can they configure the router to operate in bridge or DMZ mode when you place your own device behind it? You’ll need this unless you’re okay with double NAT. I use PFSense as my edge firewall (avoid using it as a switch, even with a 4-port NIC—assign one port for WAN and another for LAN… switches should stay switches, PFSense is a firewall). I also run UniFi switches and APs, and the VLANs work seamlessly. I’m using pfblockerNG on the firewall instead of pihole to block unwanted traffic at the network edge. I think the newer UniFi firewalls are solid choices as well, though I’m not very familiar with them.

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tk66
Junior Member
21
10-13-2021, 09:08 AM
#7
Confirmed, everything works without any special requirements. They can be configured from any source. I began with U6 Lites and later replaced them with U6 Enterprises, but both are connected via a network switch on my local machine. The controller doesn’t need to run continuously.
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tk66
10-13-2021, 09:08 AM #7

Confirmed, everything works without any special requirements. They can be configured from any source. I began with U6 Lites and later replaced them with U6 Enterprises, but both are connected via a network switch on my local machine. The controller doesn’t need to run continuously.

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FieryExile_
Member
231
10-18-2021, 04:29 PM
#8
They confirmed they can handle the setup for me. They suggested starting with Docker and using Synology for hosting. Eventually, I stayed to check if devices were connected. It looks like Cloud Gateway Ultra could be a ready-to-use option, so I wouldn’t need to set it up myself. Since it seems difficult now, Unifi Express might be worth considering, though its Wi-Fi AP isn’t necessary. I’ll look into alternatives similar to Pihole for Unifi devices and do some research.
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FieryExile_
10-18-2021, 04:29 PM #8

They confirmed they can handle the setup for me. They suggested starting with Docker and using Synology for hosting. Eventually, I stayed to check if devices were connected. It looks like Cloud Gateway Ultra could be a ready-to-use option, so I wouldn’t need to set it up myself. Since it seems difficult now, Unifi Express might be worth considering, though its Wi-Fi AP isn’t necessary. I’ll look into alternatives similar to Pihole for Unifi devices and do some research.

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Bella22TnT
Member
60
10-18-2021, 08:47 PM
#9
You probably won’t require a cloud gateway after all. A simple ER-X could suffice instead.
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Bella22TnT
10-18-2021, 08:47 PM #9

You probably won’t require a cloud gateway after all. A simple ER-X could suffice instead.

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alexmouv
Junior Member
27
10-19-2021, 12:04 AM
#10
Having the dream machine or dm pro or dm SE is beneficial as it lets you manage all your Ubiquiti devices through a single interface. I own the DM special edition and appreciate the POE ports. It has performed reliably and set up effortlessly. Pfsense works well, and I used it before purchasing the dream machine SE. I’d suggest it if you need full control over every network option and are ready to invest time in learning it. For me, the key reason to make the change was gaining control over my access points and switches.
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alexmouv
10-19-2021, 12:04 AM #10

Having the dream machine or dm pro or dm SE is beneficial as it lets you manage all your Ubiquiti devices through a single interface. I own the DM special edition and appreciate the POE ports. It has performed reliably and set up effortlessly. Pfsense works well, and I used it before purchasing the dream machine SE. I’d suggest it if you need full control over every network option and are ready to invest time in learning it. For me, the key reason to make the change was gaining control over my access points and switches.

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