Check if the temperature and voltage of your i7 7700k are within normal ranges.
Check if the temperature and voltage of your i7 7700k are within normal ranges.
I purchased the K version because:
A) I assumed the K model was faster due to its higher stock GHZ. I wasn’t aware it was mainly or exclusively for overclocking.
B) It cost only 20€ more than the non-K variant.
Now that I understand A, another benefit became clear with the K version: if I can run Turbo Boost at 55-65°C temperatures, I’ll gain some extra GHz. Previously, when running stock, it matched the Turbo Boost on the non-K model, which might have been possible because that CPU could handle higher temps.
I’ve also swapped all fans, including CPU fans, to full speed continuously. The noise isn’t bothersome since I’m using a headset almost every minute while sitting at the desk.
I’ll consider reapplying thermal paste and possibly lowering the VCORE from 1.265 to 1.210 or similar.
It seems you’re not fully grasping what you’re doing, so I strongly suggest setting everything to defaults and just enjoy gaming without worrying about BIOS tweaks.
Whatever you do, have fun and stay safe!
Initially, those temperatures aren't too alarming, though they appear higher than expected. I prefer seeing them stay below 80°C, but I wouldn't take drastic steps unless they rise above 85°C. The cooler should help maintain a lower temperature. To improve the situation, I'd raise the cooler and clean the TIM, then reapply it. The optimal TIM application is a very thin line about the size of a rice grain (refer to details below). Regarding fans, it's unclear what size your intake is, but adding more intake might help.
I'm also wondering if you're using XMP for your memory. For me, the OC XMP profile added an extra 7°C.
Makentox :
Hazlazm :
I purchased the K version because:
A) I assumed the K model was intended for higher performance since it has a greater stock GHZ. I wasn't aware it was primarily or exclusively meant for overclocking.
B) It cost only 20€ more than the non-K variant.
Now that I understand A, another benefit became clear with the K version: If I can achieve Turbo Boost at temperatures between 55-65°C, I'll gain some additional GHz. Previously, when running stock, it matched the Turbo Boost performance of the non-K model, which might have been possible because that CPU could handle lower heat.
I've also upgraded all fans, including the CPU ones, to full speed continuously. The noise isn't bothersome since I use a headset almost every minute while sitting at the desk.
However, I plan to reapply thermal paste and possibly adjust the VCORE value from 1.265 to around 1.210.
It seems you're not fully grasping what you're doing, so I strongly suggest resetting all settings to defaults and just enjoy gaming without worrying about BIOS tweaks.
Whatever you do, have fun and stay safe, good luck!
I've learned more about computers today than I did two days ago. It's perfectly fine to run fans at full speed if you don't mind the noise, as long as your power supply can handle it—my PSU is definitely capable of that. Based on 3 Watt calculators, my system would draw between 395-400W. I chose a 750W unit just to be safe. A K model still offers better speed than a non-K, even without overclocking. It's only a slight improvement.
I haven't made any other changes in the BIOS besides switching fans to full speed and disabling Turbo Boost.
burnhamjs
Thanks for the reply.
Indeed, I'm planning to reapply the thermal paste. I used roughly twice as much as shown in the picture. I misunderstood the Cooler Manual.
If you're careful not to tighten too much, is that meant to prevent damaging the motherboard? Or are there other reasons to avoid over-tightening?
Regarding XMP, I haven't activated or adjusted anything related to it in the BIOS. Only the settings I mentioned earlier. So unless it's enabled by default, you're safe.
The size of the chassis fans is 140mm. I've been considering rearranging them—placing one fan at the front, two intakes in front, and one exhaust at the back, maybe even using a Y-splitter to have four fans total.
Hazlazm :
Makentox :
Hazlazm :
I purchased the K version because:
A) I assumed the K model was intended for faster performance since it features a higher stock GHZ. I wasn't aware it was primarily or exclusively meant for overclocking.
B) It cost only 20€ more than the non-K variant.
Now that I understand A, another benefit became clear with the K version: If I can achieve Turbo Boost at temperatures between 55-65°C, I'll gain some extra GHz. Previously, when running stock, it matched the Turbo Boost of the non-K model, which might have been possible because that CPU could handle lower heat.
I've also upgraded all the fans, including the CPU ones, to full speed continuously. The noise isn't bothersome since I use a headset almost every minute while sitting at the desk.
However, I plan to reapply thermal paste and possibly adjust the VCORE from 1.265 to 1.210 or something similar.
It seems you're not fully grasping what you're doing, so I strongly suggest setting everything to default and just enjoy gaming without worrying about tweaking BIOS settings.
Whatever you do, have fun and stay safe, good luck!
I've learned more about computers today than I did two days ago. It's perfectly fine to run fans at full speed if you don't mind the noise or if your power supply can handle it—unlikely in this case. Based on 3 Watt calculators, my system would draw 395-400W. I bought a 750W unit just to be safe. A K model is still faster than a non-K, even without overclocking. It's only a slight difference, but it's still an advantage.
I haven't adjusted any BIOS settings beyond changing the fan speeds and disabling Turbo Boost.
burnhamjs
Thanks for the reply.
Indeed, I'm planning to reapply the thermal paste. I probably used twice as much in the picture. I misunderstood the Cooler Manual.
If you're careful not to tighten too much, is that meant to prevent damaging the motherboard? Or are there other reasons not to over-tighten it?
Regarding XMP, I haven't changed anything related to it in the BIOS—only the settings I mentioned earlier. So unless it's enabled by default, you're safe.
The size of the chassis fans is 140mm. I've been considering rearranging them: moving one fan forward, adding two intakes at the front and one exhaust at the back, maybe even using a Y-splitter for four fans.
After you finish, run a stress test with this tool:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downloa...Intel-XTU-
I can confidently say you'll likely see higher temperatures because the CPU is under more load.
Hazlazm shared his thoughts with Makentox. He plans to reapply the thermal paste, using slightly more than before, and clarified that he misunderstood the Cooler Manual. He asked if tightening too much could risk damaging the motherboard or if there were other reasons not to over-tighten. Regarding XMP settings, he confirmed he hasn’t changed anything in the BIOS beyond what was mentioned earlier, so unless it’s enabled by default, he doesn’t think it needs adjustment. He also discussed a fan layout idea for better airflow and shared a link. He urged Makentox to focus on practical improvements rather than chasing vague suggestions.
Okay than. How do I overclock my system to make it run cooler, more efficient and faster then? Where should I ask?
There are lots of debate about this and that on the internet. Intake vs Exhaust, ESD protection matters vs don't matter, too much thermal paste wont make any difference vs too much thermal paste will make it run hotter etc. And by setting my fans to full speed along with turning off Turbo Boost and follow manuals and stuff, I don't know what I'm doing? What do I don't know? I might appear a little ignorant and that's because I am, otherwise I wouldn't write this post in the first place. Before even turning off Turbo Boost, even though my inuition said it would be fine, I googled it and asked if it was OK to turn it off. The same with the fans. I don't do stuff if I'm ignorant (except when I THINK I have the correct information or that I believe I ain't ignorant, but in reality, I am) or if I, myself, can't find a solution or explanation and even then, if its something critical, I will read about it.
Hazlazm :
Okay than. How do I overclock my system to make it run cooler, more efficient and faster then? Where should I ask?
There are lots of debate about this and that on the internet. Intake vs Exhaust, ESD protection matters vs don't matter, too much thermal paste wont make any difference vs too much thermal paste will make it run hotter etc. And by setting my fans to full speed along with turning off Turbo Boost and follow manuals and stuff, I don't know what I'm doing? What do I don't know? I might appear a little ignorant and that's because I am, otherwise I wouldn't write this post in the first place. Before even turning off Turbo Boost, even though my inuition said it would be fine, I googled it and asked if it was OK to turn it off. The same with the fans. I don't do stuff if I'm ignorant (except when I THINK I have the correct information or that I believe I ain't ignorant, but in reality, I am) or if I, myself, can't find a solution or explanation and even then, if its something critical, I will read about it.
Stop skirting around the real issue that is at hand. When running stock, placed under full load with a stress test utility, what temperatures are you reaching?
Hazlazm :
Okay than. How do I overclock my system to make it run cooler, more efficient and faster then? Where should I ask?
There are lots of debate about this and that on the internet. Intake vs Exhaust, ESD protection matters vs don't matter, too much thermal paste wont make any difference vs too much thermal paste will make it run hotter etc. And by setting my fans to full speed along with turning off Turbo Boost and follow manuals and stuff, I don't know what I'm doing? What do I don't know? I might appear a little ignorant and that's because I am, otherwise I wouldn't write this post in the first place. Before even turning off Turbo Boost, even though my inuition said it would be fine, I googled it and asked if it was OK to turn it off. The same with the fans. I don't do stuff if I'm ignorant (except when I THINK I have the correct information or that I believe I ain't ignorant, but in reality, I am) or if I, myself, can't find a solution or explanation and even then, if its something critical, I will read about it.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/0...g_preview/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10968/the-...hampion/11
You dont really need any advance overclocking,
Simply go to bios, make all bios settings back to default.
I would first set vcore voltage to 1.3000v , and set multiplier to 46 for example, press save and exit.
Go to windows and stress test it, (what i usually do) 5-10 min intel burn test.
Pass = go back to bios and try 47 or if Failed= go back to bios and rise voltage by 0.010v (1.310v). Always keep monitoring your temperatures with for example HWmonitor (you probably will never see such high temperatures in games after intel burn test) Set your fans to full speed during intel burn test.
I - personally - like to have temperatures 85 or less during intel burn test and 80 or less during gaming for 24/7.
So basically all u have to do is tweak only 2 options = vcore voltage and multiplier until u find stable voltage for your multiplier (This is basic overclocking which is easy for anyone to do, you dont have tweak other settings like me or other people do)
So lets say (for example) u are able now to run intel burn test for 10-15 min for 4.7GHZ 1.320v.
What i do is just simply go play games... I try to play games that are more CPU demanding. I hate running stress tests for hours or days like other people do. Why i think its the best way? Is that 1. games and the best stress test for CPU or GPU 2. Most enjoyable stress test, all you have to do is play games. 3. You dont waste time running stress tests and just do what u supposed to do in your case is gaming. If it happens that u played games for 3 days and it was stable and then u crash? Go back to bios and rise voltage by 0.010v then most likely it will permanently run stable from now on.
Notice that these voltage and speed values were just an example, it is possible u will get much better or much worse results! We call it silicone lottery!
He's attempting to hide the issue by adjusting the performance of a $350 cpu based on the limitations of an insufficient heat sync. He was nearing 80c during heavy loads while playing BF1. My worry is that he'll play more demanding games in the future, leading to even greater heat, since he hasn't even checked temperatures under full load.
SgtScream is pointing out that the player is trying to hide the issue by adjusting the performance of a $350 CPU around the limitations of an undersized heat sync. He notes the player was nearing 80°C under load while playing BF1 and worries about increased temperatures in future more demanding games, since he hasn't tested temperatures during full load. He also mentions that the player has a decent cooler that allows easy overclocking of their 7700k to 4.7 with minimal temperature rise, citing personal experience with a friend who achieved this using 212 EVO paste.