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Check if the issue stems from Micron D-Die RAM on the Ryzen 7500F.

Check if the issue stems from Micron D-Die RAM on the Ryzen 7500F.

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SpherousX
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05-07-2022, 05:41 AM
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System Details: Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F (Cooler: DeepCool AG400) Board: ASUS Prime B650-PLUS WiFi GPU: INNO3D GeForce RTX 3060 12GB RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2x16) DDR5 6400 MT/s CL36-48-48-104 1.35V ver 3.43.04 (Model: CMH32GX5M2N6400C36 - Micron D-Die (4.4) The Problem: Greetings. I’m facing regular micro-stutters in nearly all games. Though my average FPS remains solid and stable, the 1% and 0.1% low frames are extremely poor, giving the gameplay a choppy feel. I think the RAM might be the cause. My current setup lacks an EXPO profile and uses Micron D-Die chips. From what I’ve learned, these chips often clash with the AM5 platform, leading to these specific stuttering problems. What I’ve Tried: Experimented with different speeds: 6400, 6000, 5600, 5200, and 4800 MT/s. Maintained MCLK:UCLK at a 1:1 ratio. Adjusted primary and sub-timings (CL, tRFC, tREFI, etc.) Manually tweaking didn’t help and actually worsened the low frame issue. Questions: Could you clarify why Micron D-Die chips tend to have compatibility challenges with the Ryzen 7000 series memory controller compared to Intel? If I switch to a Hynix A-Die or M-Die build (specifically 6000 MT/s CL30 with native EXPO support), would those stutters disappear? I’ve attached a video of the stuttering from GTA V Enhanced. Could you review the frame time graph and share your insights? Key Concern: How can I tell if a RAM package is Hynix A-Die or M-Die just by examining the box before purchasing? Are there particular version numbers or serial codes to look for? Thanks in advance!
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SpherousX
05-07-2022, 05:41 AM #1

System Details: Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F (Cooler: DeepCool AG400) Board: ASUS Prime B650-PLUS WiFi GPU: INNO3D GeForce RTX 3060 12GB RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2x16) DDR5 6400 MT/s CL36-48-48-104 1.35V ver 3.43.04 (Model: CMH32GX5M2N6400C36 - Micron D-Die (4.4) The Problem: Greetings. I’m facing regular micro-stutters in nearly all games. Though my average FPS remains solid and stable, the 1% and 0.1% low frames are extremely poor, giving the gameplay a choppy feel. I think the RAM might be the cause. My current setup lacks an EXPO profile and uses Micron D-Die chips. From what I’ve learned, these chips often clash with the AM5 platform, leading to these specific stuttering problems. What I’ve Tried: Experimented with different speeds: 6400, 6000, 5600, 5200, and 4800 MT/s. Maintained MCLK:UCLK at a 1:1 ratio. Adjusted primary and sub-timings (CL, tRFC, tREFI, etc.) Manually tweaking didn’t help and actually worsened the low frame issue. Questions: Could you clarify why Micron D-Die chips tend to have compatibility challenges with the Ryzen 7000 series memory controller compared to Intel? If I switch to a Hynix A-Die or M-Die build (specifically 6000 MT/s CL30 with native EXPO support), would those stutters disappear? I’ve attached a video of the stuttering from GTA V Enhanced. Could you review the frame time graph and share your insights? Key Concern: How can I tell if a RAM package is Hynix A-Die or M-Die just by examining the box before purchasing? Are there particular version numbers or serial codes to look for? Thanks in advance!

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Luckaz
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05-07-2022, 10:38 AM
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EXPO is just a fixed format, so it’s not really EXPO. If you need assistance, please paste the English version of your chat prompt instead.
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Luckaz
05-07-2022, 10:38 AM #2

EXPO is just a fixed format, so it’s not really EXPO. If you need assistance, please paste the English version of your chat prompt instead.

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JamesHond7
Posting Freak
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05-07-2022, 12:06 PM
#3
Check your system settings and ensure they match the recommended specifications. Next, try updating your graphics drivers or reinstalling them if necessary. If the issue persists, consider running a hardware diagnostic test.
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JamesHond7
05-07-2022, 12:06 PM #3

Check your system settings and ensure they match the recommended specifications. Next, try updating your graphics drivers or reinstalling them if necessary. If the issue persists, consider running a hardware diagnostic test.

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Panda_1738
Junior Member
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05-22-2022, 03:50 PM
#4
50/50... maybe it's not related to RAM at all... (incorrect bios or window configurations, outdated game mechanics, any issue beyond memory problems) What confirms it's not a RAM issue? I've tried another setup. The next steps would involve resetting the CMOS, possibly updating the BIOS, restarting or reinstalling Windows, and reverting to default settings for both OS and hardware—ensuring no overclocking or underclocking, sticking to the default configurations.
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Panda_1738
05-22-2022, 03:50 PM #4

50/50... maybe it's not related to RAM at all... (incorrect bios or window configurations, outdated game mechanics, any issue beyond memory problems) What confirms it's not a RAM issue? I've tried another setup. The next steps would involve resetting the CMOS, possibly updating the BIOS, restarting or reinstalling Windows, and reverting to default settings for both OS and hardware—ensuring no overclocking or underclocking, sticking to the default configurations.

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finn2203
Junior Member
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05-26-2022, 01:16 PM
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You're looking for ways to fine-tune your system further. Based on your recent tests, consider adjusting the micro-data clock (FCLK), clock speed (UCLK), and sub-timings manually. These changes can sometimes resolve minor instability. Also, ensure your BIOS is up to date, as newer versions often include performance improvements. Since you're using a tray CPU, check if the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) is functioning correctly—this might be the root cause of those persistent 0.1% stutters. If possible, try different voltages or Power Down Mode settings to see if they affect the behavior.
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finn2203
05-26-2022, 01:16 PM #5

You're looking for ways to fine-tune your system further. Based on your recent tests, consider adjusting the micro-data clock (FCLK), clock speed (UCLK), and sub-timings manually. These changes can sometimes resolve minor instability. Also, ensure your BIOS is up to date, as newer versions often include performance improvements. Since you're using a tray CPU, check if the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) is functioning correctly—this might be the root cause of those persistent 0.1% stutters. If possible, try different voltages or Power Down Mode settings to see if they affect the behavior.

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Stara_Rerna
Junior Member
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06-08-2022, 03:22 AM
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Hello! Are there any background processes active? Have you performed a DDU or SFC/DISM? Checked Task Manager during gameplay to identify resource-heavy tasks? Adjust the CPU graph view to show per-core performance.
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Stara_Rerna
06-08-2022, 03:22 AM #6

Hello! Are there any background processes active? Have you performed a DDU or SFC/DISM? Checked Task Manager during gameplay to identify resource-heavy tasks? Adjust the CPU graph view to show per-core performance.

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iPhan
Member
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06-09-2022, 02:03 PM
#7
In the video you mentioned, the 3060 reaching 97% usage likely caused the stuttering.
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iPhan
06-09-2022, 02:03 PM #7

In the video you mentioned, the 3060 reaching 97% usage likely caused the stuttering.

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OmqDace
Posting Freak
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06-10-2022, 04:32 PM
#8
Hello everyone, I’ve finally resolved the issue. After reviewing the Event Viewer, it became clear the problem stemmed from Wi-Fi and likely audio drivers. Even without Windows updates enabled, the system continued attempting background updates. Xbox Game Bar also generated errors even when disabled, and BIOS logs showed some issues. While gameplay was generally smooth, I experienced sudden drops and micro-stutters. Disabling Wi-Fi, Audio, and Bluetooth in the BIOS reduced these drops by about 90%, leaving only occasional micro-stutters. Each drop triggered a new error log in the Event Viewer at that moment. After restarting and launching the game, the errors subsided, allowing smooth play. Initially, I thought the RAM was faulty, so I downclocked it to the default 4800 MHz, but the Wi-Fi card errors remained. Now I’ve enabled the DOCP 1 profile at 6400 MHz with FCLK set to 2133, and it’s functioning properly. The remaining micro-stutters are caused by the Xbox Bar and Windows services I mentioned earlier. I’ve attached screenshots and a video that helped pinpoint the problem. If I had checked the Event Viewer earlier, I would have fixed it much sooner. Notably, the person in the video faces the same issues despite having a high-end system with a Ryzen 9800X3D, G.Skill DDR5 6000 MHz, and an RTX 5090.
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OmqDace
06-10-2022, 04:32 PM #8

Hello everyone, I’ve finally resolved the issue. After reviewing the Event Viewer, it became clear the problem stemmed from Wi-Fi and likely audio drivers. Even without Windows updates enabled, the system continued attempting background updates. Xbox Game Bar also generated errors even when disabled, and BIOS logs showed some issues. While gameplay was generally smooth, I experienced sudden drops and micro-stutters. Disabling Wi-Fi, Audio, and Bluetooth in the BIOS reduced these drops by about 90%, leaving only occasional micro-stutters. Each drop triggered a new error log in the Event Viewer at that moment. After restarting and launching the game, the errors subsided, allowing smooth play. Initially, I thought the RAM was faulty, so I downclocked it to the default 4800 MHz, but the Wi-Fi card errors remained. Now I’ve enabled the DOCP 1 profile at 6400 MHz with FCLK set to 2133, and it’s functioning properly. The remaining micro-stutters are caused by the Xbox Bar and Windows services I mentioned earlier. I’ve attached screenshots and a video that helped pinpoint the problem. If I had checked the Event Viewer earlier, I would have fixed it much sooner. Notably, the person in the video faces the same issues despite having a high-end system with a Ryzen 9800X3D, G.Skill DDR5 6000 MHz, and an RTX 5090.