Can someone clarify how two 8-Pin PCIe ports can deliver 600 watts?
Can someone clarify how two 8-Pin PCIe ports can deliver 600 watts?
Pin count doesn't matter much. The main clue is that it isn't technically PCIe. ASUS seems to be suggesting you connect an EPS12V cable in one of their ports. An 8-pin EPS12V can deliver up to 336W. It also uses 4x12V lines, unlike PCIe which uses 3, no matter the pin setup.
I can't figure out how to get a picture here... But the PSU has 8 ports labeled CPU/VGA/PCIe. Those are all 8-pin. The other ports are 6 pin, and the MB ports. Nothing is labeled EPS12V, if that matters. And no way do I trust a marketing department's claims...
CPU is EPS12V. Marketing promoting the 600W cable isn't something they can be honest about. If the power supply fails because someone actually used the cable with an RTX 4090, that would be a legal issue. It's not as if Intel or AMD are making claims about a CPU reaching up to 5.0GHz without mentioning it only occurs during single-core tasks. They can still demonstrate the CPU can achieve that speed, and it wouldn't be considered a legal problem for multi-core workloads.
If you haven't contacted ASUS support yet, please do so. Obtain a response directly from the manufacturer.
And if you still don't trust their claims, it's best to replace the PSU with a new one.
The PSU wouldn't fail because it was underpowered. That's what I understand. I spoke with them, but they didn't link me to anyone familiar with PSUs. It's not about doubting someone who claims to know something—it's about challenging someone who makes vague statements. As a lawyer, I don't accept assumptions or ads. The person who avoided connecting me wasn't knowledgeable enough to be credible; he'd be a poor witness. For instance, he didn't mention that the port supplies over 150 watts, just said it was an EPSD12V port. How do we distinguish between a 150-watt and a 300+ watt port?
We should conclude this discussion here.
Without having the PSU or professional testing tools, we can't provide the answer you're seeking as a lawyer. It relies on assumptions we can't verify, and even if possible, what counts as proof would be unclear.
What are you trying to understand? You seem upset. I’m sorry.
I’m not trying to test you. I just want to know what this unit does. Could someone explain it to me? You mentioned it’s over 300 watts. That makes sense. So, how can I tell if that’s the case? And why wouldn’t the person with the right knowledge share this information clearly? Well, the ASUS representative didn’t seem to understand these power supply ports. Even when I asked for advice from an expert, they couldn’t have helped by just pointing out the details in the manual.
I’ve been working on this for several days now. I haven’t found any explanation or reference that clarifies whether these are 150-watt or 300-watt ports. Could you point me to a place where I can learn about the different power outputs from each port? And why isn’t this ROG unit explaining it? I’m not trying to challenge you, just looking for guidance.
Your introduction raises several interesting points.
A 6 pin connector is limited to 75 watts, yet it features three positive wires similar to an 8 pin connector. How can an 8 pin provide 150 watts?
If you examine the Seasonic model, it has a pigtail on each 8 pin connector. This pigtail connects one 8 pin connector to another at the end of the cable, but it is rated for 225 watts using the pigtail that links to a single 8 pin connector on the PSU.
How is this feasible?
Unless you have detailed information about the wire gauge in the cable and the internal wiring of the PSU, you can only rely on the manufacturer's specifications.
In this particular scenario.
PCIe® Gen 5.0 Ready
Each ROG Thor 1200 W Platinum II PSU comes with a 16-pin PCIe® cable capable of delivering up to 600 watts to PCIe® Gen 5.0 graphics cards. Prepare for the future of power delivery.
The claim of 600 watts on the cable is accurate.
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EDIT. For what ASUS claims over the phone or elsewhere, that’s another story personally—I would never purchase any ASUS product. I’d just pay sales tax without the extra ASUS branding for usually lower-quality products with scammers offering support and warranty.
And why would people—who truly understand—refuse to share this? Well, as I mentioned earlier, the ASUS representative was completely unaware of these PSUs.
All ASUS support staff seem to lack knowledge about these items.
This model could come with additional expenses and might include some unnecessary features, yet it remains a solid power supply.
You are still being charged an extra tax for an ASUS tax on a PSU you can get at a lower price with the same quality.
Most PSU manufacturers are now willing to build a PSU according to the specifications requested by buyers, allowing them to choose the components used.
This situation has been ongoing for some time.
Seasonic is producing this product, and the first listed option is the price or ASUS tax.
Cons
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Too expensive
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Not as efficient as competitors
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The operating temperature is set very high
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Large in size
EDIT No personal bias, just the fact that anyone purchasing an ASUS product seems to be overpaying for a company with poor customer service—often you receive the same issue or are charged extra even after returning it.
From the OP’s experience with ASUS support and product understanding].
And why would those who truly understand it not share this information? Well, as I mentioned, the ASUS representative was completely unaware of these PSU details.