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BSD stability and reliability vs Linux

BSD stability and reliability vs Linux

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Emmy149
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07-17-2024, 06:41 PM
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BSD is often seen as less stable than Linux because it has a different history and development path. Both are Unix-like, but their origins and community focus differ. Testing reliability involves comparing real-world usage, stability reports, and community support rather than just naming. The person who created Linux also contributed to BSD, which doesn’t mean they were equally committed to both systems.
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Emmy149
07-17-2024, 06:41 PM #1

BSD is often seen as less stable than Linux because it has a different history and development path. Both are Unix-like, but their origins and community focus differ. Testing reliability involves comparing real-world usage, stability reports, and community support rather than just naming. The person who created Linux also contributed to BSD, which doesn’t mean they were equally committed to both systems.

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VitoSEXY
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07-18-2024, 08:46 PM
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Linux shares similarities with Unix yet remains distinct from it. It originated as a quick adaptation of Minix, which itself was a modified version of Unix. From what I know: BSD stands for Berkeley System Designs. At the time, Berkeley referred to the university in Berkeley, California. Unix belonged to a company that favored affordable labor and open development. A group at Berkeley would modify and enhance Unix due to its strong technical talent. One day they discovered they had completely rewritten all of Unix, making it their own. They unintentionally released it under the BSD license, which came before the GNU public license that Linux uses today. It was more permissive. Later, the original company filed a lengthy lawsuit that spanned years. The only way Linux came to exist was because BSD was involved in legal trouble, and there was another unexpected corporate misstep involving Minix’s developers, who could legally create a copy of Minix within a short timeframe. That Scandinavian student Linus Thorvalds accomplished it. Thus, Linux was born.
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VitoSEXY
07-18-2024, 08:46 PM #2

Linux shares similarities with Unix yet remains distinct from it. It originated as a quick adaptation of Minix, which itself was a modified version of Unix. From what I know: BSD stands for Berkeley System Designs. At the time, Berkeley referred to the university in Berkeley, California. Unix belonged to a company that favored affordable labor and open development. A group at Berkeley would modify and enhance Unix due to its strong technical talent. One day they discovered they had completely rewritten all of Unix, making it their own. They unintentionally released it under the BSD license, which came before the GNU public license that Linux uses today. It was more permissive. Later, the original company filed a lengthy lawsuit that spanned years. The only way Linux came to exist was because BSD was involved in legal trouble, and there was another unexpected corporate misstep involving Minix’s developers, who could legally create a copy of Minix within a short timeframe. That Scandinavian student Linus Thorvalds accomplished it. Thus, Linux was born.

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megapixel74
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07-18-2024, 10:46 PM
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Linux is closely related to Unix, not identical. It doesn’t copy every line of Unix code but mimics its functionality most of the time. Millions of developers contribute, so its strength isn’t solely due to one person. Distributions such as Debian offer much more than just the Linux kernel. The same team didn’t create both Linux and FreeBSD. It likely originated from Torvalds writing it for personal enjoyment. Its popularity grew because of strong community involvement from the start and GNU’s search for a GPL-compliant kernel when HURD wasn’t available. If BSD had avoided legal issues, it might have gained more traction today, though other factors also played a role.
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megapixel74
07-18-2024, 10:46 PM #3

Linux is closely related to Unix, not identical. It doesn’t copy every line of Unix code but mimics its functionality most of the time. Millions of developers contribute, so its strength isn’t solely due to one person. Distributions such as Debian offer much more than just the Linux kernel. The same team didn’t create both Linux and FreeBSD. It likely originated from Torvalds writing it for personal enjoyment. Its popularity grew because of strong community involvement from the start and GNU’s search for a GPL-compliant kernel when HURD wasn’t available. If BSD had avoided legal issues, it might have gained more traction today, though other factors also played a role.

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sfajar
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07-20-2024, 09:12 PM
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The writer’s reasoning differs from what I initially thought but isn’t entirely out of reach. Minix was primarily seen as a learning aid for students studying Unix at schools lacking access to real systems due to Unix’s private ownership. Originally, Minix was also privately owned, though with less strict control. Understanding its beginnings and licensing history might clarify this perspective. I learned that Minix was developed similarly to DOS for the dominant 8-bit platform of the era (whose name I don’t recall). From a theoretical standpoint more than practical use, another operating system emerged as a direct challenge to the main microprocessor OS by exploiting a legal loophole. The mistakes in Minix came during the company’s decline; it wasn’t profitable for years. Eventually, Linux took over and diverged significantly from Minix today. The evolution of free operating systems is deeply connected to patent law, influencing how patents are submitted and prompting the filing of numerous patents simultaneously—something not seen before with DOS or BSD. Edited May 3, 2020 by Bombastinator Further reflections on patent law and DOS
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sfajar
07-20-2024, 09:12 PM #4

The writer’s reasoning differs from what I initially thought but isn’t entirely out of reach. Minix was primarily seen as a learning aid for students studying Unix at schools lacking access to real systems due to Unix’s private ownership. Originally, Minix was also privately owned, though with less strict control. Understanding its beginnings and licensing history might clarify this perspective. I learned that Minix was developed similarly to DOS for the dominant 8-bit platform of the era (whose name I don’t recall). From a theoretical standpoint more than practical use, another operating system emerged as a direct challenge to the main microprocessor OS by exploiting a legal loophole. The mistakes in Minix came during the company’s decline; it wasn’t profitable for years. Eventually, Linux took over and diverged significantly from Minix today. The evolution of free operating systems is deeply connected to patent law, influencing how patents are submitted and prompting the filing of numerous patents simultaneously—something not seen before with DOS or BSD. Edited May 3, 2020 by Bombastinator Further reflections on patent law and DOS

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KizuPvP
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07-21-2024, 02:06 PM
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Minix3, the version Torvalds refined his coding abilities, remains available! https://www.minix3.org According to my knowledge, it was originally created by a university professor to demonstrate solid programming techniques (and Unix expertise). It caught the interest of other educators, leading to its recognition by Torvalds. As a demonstration, he developed an alternative kernel for Minix3, which later attracted attention from someone with unconventional views on software, commonly referred to by their initials: RMS, eventually incorporated into his new free OS. The rest is now history.
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KizuPvP
07-21-2024, 02:06 PM #5

Minix3, the version Torvalds refined his coding abilities, remains available! https://www.minix3.org According to my knowledge, it was originally created by a university professor to demonstrate solid programming techniques (and Unix expertise). It caught the interest of other educators, leading to its recognition by Torvalds. As a demonstration, he developed an alternative kernel for Minix3, which later attracted attention from someone with unconventional views on software, commonly referred to by their initials: RMS, eventually incorporated into his new free OS. The rest is now history.

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Eulfy
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07-23-2024, 11:20 AM
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This might be more precise. I reviewed the entries with brief histories; it seems a book was referenced again in 1987. A common issue with these topics is how far back we can trace them. “It all began when Johnny hit me back” remains a recurring concern. I’m unsure if 1987 marks the start, but that’s where the description on the Minix3 site picks up. Unix predates that by a wide margin, so it’s possible. I gathered information from programmers who were BSD experts working on an early, now-lost private BSD release focused on security. There were others emphasizing compatibility. It might have been open source and evolved into some well-known BSDs like freeBSD, netBSD, OpenBSD, OSX, and possibly more. My data goes before OSX entirely—maybe there was some exaggeration. BSDs gained longevity partly because Apple adopted them and occasionally released updates. OSX is derived from a BSD lineage. Edited May 3, 2020 by Bombastinator
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Eulfy
07-23-2024, 11:20 AM #6

This might be more precise. I reviewed the entries with brief histories; it seems a book was referenced again in 1987. A common issue with these topics is how far back we can trace them. “It all began when Johnny hit me back” remains a recurring concern. I’m unsure if 1987 marks the start, but that’s where the description on the Minix3 site picks up. Unix predates that by a wide margin, so it’s possible. I gathered information from programmers who were BSD experts working on an early, now-lost private BSD release focused on security. There were others emphasizing compatibility. It might have been open source and evolved into some well-known BSDs like freeBSD, netBSD, OpenBSD, OSX, and possibly more. My data goes before OSX entirely—maybe there was some exaggeration. BSDs gained longevity partly because Apple adopted them and occasionally released updates. OSX is derived from a BSD lineage. Edited May 3, 2020 by Bombastinator