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Sabretooth2003
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11-30-2025, 03:21 PM
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Sabretooth2003
11-30-2025, 03:21 PM #11

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Mrod02
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11-30-2025, 09:49 PM
#12
Sure, I noticed that tone. MCE and BLCK aren't exactly the same, but they do have some connections.
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Mrod02
11-30-2025, 09:49 PM #12

Sure, I noticed that tone. MCE and BLCK aren't exactly the same, but they do have some connections.

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MrKeffieKeffer
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12-21-2025, 06:55 PM
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I haven't watched them in a long time, and without revisiting I'm not sure that is right, with the limitation I don't have experience of "recent" Intel generations. My newest is 8th gen. At least up to that point, MCE basically set the multipliers for all cores to equal the single core speed, and jacked up voltage to hope it will be stable. This is technically an overclock. Intel CPUs used to be binned so that all cores could in theory do the max single core turbo clock, but they choose not to do it at the same time. AMD's approach was more aggressively targeted, and not all cores are expected to reach the single core turbo speed. Most enthusiast level motherboards (Z chipset) when combined with k CPUs, MCE off, would still run unlimited power limit by default. This is NOT an overclock. Altering power limit (even to unlimited) without manually changing voltages or clocks is not an overclock, and still considered within spec by Intel. With the latest gen, Intel have confused matters somewhat by adding Turbo Boost Max 3.0, which operates more AMD style in that only specific cores might reach a higher frequency. There's also Thermal Velocity Boost, which if the operating conditions allow, will boost even higher again. I think these two wont be enabled if you run MCE, but again, I've not tried. Only "traditional" single core turbo clocks make sense for MCE since it is trying to get all cores up, not just one or two.
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MrKeffieKeffer
12-21-2025, 06:55 PM #13

I haven't watched them in a long time, and without revisiting I'm not sure that is right, with the limitation I don't have experience of "recent" Intel generations. My newest is 8th gen. At least up to that point, MCE basically set the multipliers for all cores to equal the single core speed, and jacked up voltage to hope it will be stable. This is technically an overclock. Intel CPUs used to be binned so that all cores could in theory do the max single core turbo clock, but they choose not to do it at the same time. AMD's approach was more aggressively targeted, and not all cores are expected to reach the single core turbo speed. Most enthusiast level motherboards (Z chipset) when combined with k CPUs, MCE off, would still run unlimited power limit by default. This is NOT an overclock. Altering power limit (even to unlimited) without manually changing voltages or clocks is not an overclock, and still considered within spec by Intel. With the latest gen, Intel have confused matters somewhat by adding Turbo Boost Max 3.0, which operates more AMD style in that only specific cores might reach a higher frequency. There's also Thermal Velocity Boost, which if the operating conditions allow, will boost even higher again. I think these two wont be enabled if you run MCE, but again, I've not tried. Only "traditional" single core turbo clocks make sense for MCE since it is trying to get all cores up, not just one or two.

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Manik68
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12-26-2025, 08:38 PM
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It seems you're looking for a thorough and thoughtful response. I'm here to help with any questions or clarifications you might have.
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Manik68
12-26-2025, 08:38 PM #14

It seems you're looking for a thorough and thoughtful response. I'm here to help with any questions or clarifications you might have.

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