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Avoid pushing this processor beyond its limits—Cinebench encountered an issue.

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AnalogClock
Junior Member
15
12-29-2023, 10:14 AM
#1
I’ve studied a lot and tried to understand, but still feel confused about some parts. After several attempts and sticking closely to an older manual, I managed to get by, though only partially. I realized I need to know the chip’s power consumption when under load, and use that as a starting point for my overclock. The issue is it draws around 1.4 volts easily, and once it hits above that it starts crashing in Cinebench—maybe I should push it to 1.45V? That doesn’t make much sense. (P.S.) Important settings: I don’t think this will work. I might try 4.0, but it probably won’t help much with PBO anyway, so it seems pointless. It probably isn’t a good chip for overclocking after all. I’m not sure what the right limits are for the LLC stage, and I haven’t even touched the SOC yet (maybe that’s the missing piece).
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AnalogClock
12-29-2023, 10:14 AM #1

I’ve studied a lot and tried to understand, but still feel confused about some parts. After several attempts and sticking closely to an older manual, I managed to get by, though only partially. I realized I need to know the chip’s power consumption when under load, and use that as a starting point for my overclock. The issue is it draws around 1.4 volts easily, and once it hits above that it starts crashing in Cinebench—maybe I should push it to 1.45V? That doesn’t make much sense. (P.S.) Important settings: I don’t think this will work. I might try 4.0, but it probably won’t help much with PBO anyway, so it seems pointless. It probably isn’t a good chip for overclocking after all. I’m not sure what the right limits are for the LLC stage, and I haven’t even touched the SOC yet (maybe that’s the missing piece).

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MCFirefly94
Junior Member
38
12-29-2023, 01:22 PM
#2
It's unclear which CPU you're referring to, as no details were provided. Could you clarify the model or specifications?
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MCFirefly94
12-29-2023, 01:22 PM #2

It's unclear which CPU you're referring to, as no details were provided. Could you clarify the model or specifications?

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PayPay2K16
Junior Member
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12-29-2023, 03:20 PM
#3
If your CPU is in your BIOS (R5 3600) and you're using an MSI B450 non-MAX board as indicated by the BIOS images, it’s best to skip overclocking. These boards have limited code to get the system up and running, let alone run at higher speeds. It’s more efficient to rely on PBO for better performance without the hassle of manual tweaking. Most of the time, PBO achieves higher frequencies than overclocking unless you invest significant time adjusting settings to align with the hardware. Additionally, these boards lack many features, making it unlikely to match PBO’s results even after extensive adjustments.
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PayPay2K16
12-29-2023, 03:20 PM #3

If your CPU is in your BIOS (R5 3600) and you're using an MSI B450 non-MAX board as indicated by the BIOS images, it’s best to skip overclocking. These boards have limited code to get the system up and running, let alone run at higher speeds. It’s more efficient to rely on PBO for better performance without the hassle of manual tweaking. Most of the time, PBO achieves higher frequencies than overclocking unless you invest significant time adjusting settings to align with the hardware. Additionally, these boards lack many features, making it unlikely to match PBO’s results even after extensive adjustments.

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Eroski
Junior Member
39
12-30-2023, 10:33 PM
#4
It's great you're thinking about upgrades! The B350 really stands out, though it can be quite unpredictable—settings vary a lot and things can go in unexpected directions. I’d probably stick with PBO for now since it’s reliable. Looking for a solid mid-range option under $200, maybe a model around the B550 range? Reading reviews could help narrow it down.
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Eroski
12-30-2023, 10:33 PM #4

It's great you're thinking about upgrades! The B350 really stands out, though it can be quite unpredictable—settings vary a lot and things can go in unexpected directions. I’d probably stick with PBO for now since it’s reliable. Looking for a solid mid-range option under $200, maybe a model around the B550 range? Reading reviews could help narrow it down.

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01-12-2024, 11:22 AM
#5
MSI B350 boards seem to lack Zen 2 support. I was puzzled that it even starts with PBO when my MSI X370 struggled at 1700 with a 1000. If I pushed overclocking, I had to restart twice without using fastboot to let the changes take effect and keep the CPU clock stable around 1.5GHz. The TUF B550M-Plus is a solid choice for around $160. Generally, most B550 models are reliable, so choose one that matches your style and check reviews before buying.
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WhyYouSoDarude
01-12-2024, 11:22 AM #5

MSI B350 boards seem to lack Zen 2 support. I was puzzled that it even starts with PBO when my MSI X370 struggled at 1700 with a 1000. If I pushed overclocking, I had to restart twice without using fastboot to let the changes take effect and keep the CPU clock stable around 1.5GHz. The TUF B550M-Plus is a solid choice for around $160. Generally, most B550 models are reliable, so choose one that matches your style and check reviews before buying.

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Max846
Senior Member
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01-23-2024, 03:46 AM
#6
It seems the issue is likely with the board, not the overclock. Consider using a solid model like the Tomahawk Max or B550, or a Pro variant. You don’t need high voltage for such low frequencies.
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Max846
01-23-2024, 03:46 AM #6

It seems the issue is likely with the board, not the overclock. Consider using a solid model like the Tomahawk Max or B550, or a Pro variant. You don’t need high voltage for such low frequencies.

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ReborntoKill
Posting Freak
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01-30-2024, 02:51 PM
#7
The B550 Tomahawk is an excellent board. I own a Gigabyte x570 Elite, and I'm equally satisfied with it, priced just under $200. The Elite performs well with my 3600 and my wife's as well. Look into various reviews or read up on different boards. Choose the features you need (like number of M.2 slots, built-in Wi-Fi, LAN chip, etc.), set a budget, and then search for a board offering the best VRM design and quality components. Buildzoid provides many helpful motherboard review videos.
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ReborntoKill
01-30-2024, 02:51 PM #7

The B550 Tomahawk is an excellent board. I own a Gigabyte x570 Elite, and I'm equally satisfied with it, priced just under $200. The Elite performs well with my 3600 and my wife's as well. Look into various reviews or read up on different boards. Choose the features you need (like number of M.2 slots, built-in Wi-Fi, LAN chip, etc.), set a budget, and then search for a board offering the best VRM design and quality components. Buildzoid provides many helpful motherboard review videos.

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pedro_tkf
Senior Member
643
01-30-2024, 04:32 PM
#8
I was checking that option, it looks okay but there are quite a few gigabytes problems. Plus, there aren't many choices for the matx part, honestly… The issue is usually the tiny details that aren't explained well—like the TUF mentions "all pwm fan headers," which is fine, but I have two DC fans and I'm not sure they'll work together. Asking three people gives five different answers, which is a bit confusing. Right now, what matters most to me are memory and CPU overclocking, full fan control from BIOS, and the ability to resize bar support. If I buy a new board but can't use those features, it would be a real hassle. So yeah, it's often the small stuff that gets left out in the description. Yeah, that’s what I thought… o.o
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pedro_tkf
01-30-2024, 04:32 PM #8

I was checking that option, it looks okay but there are quite a few gigabytes problems. Plus, there aren't many choices for the matx part, honestly… The issue is usually the tiny details that aren't explained well—like the TUF mentions "all pwm fan headers," which is fine, but I have two DC fans and I'm not sure they'll work together. Asking three people gives five different answers, which is a bit confusing. Right now, what matters most to me are memory and CPU overclocking, full fan control from BIOS, and the ability to resize bar support. If I buy a new board but can't use those features, it would be a real hassle. So yeah, it's often the small stuff that gets left out in the description. Yeah, that’s what I thought… o.o

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Grggles
Member
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02-17-2024, 04:18 PM
#9
I haven’t noticed a motherboard lacking PWM headers that can’t manage DC fans, spanning from budget options under $50 to higher-end models around $500. This suggests you probably don’t need concern about that issue. The TUF board isn’t the top choice for overclocking, but the MSI Tomahawk edges it out at a similar price point; however, since the Tomahawk isn’t available in mATX, the TUF should work just fine. I wouldn’t be surprised if you can manage all fan control through the BIOS, and there should be four dedicated lanes for the top M.2 slot—no lanes should be disabled. It also supports resizable BAR, though based on my experience it offers limited benefit for NVIDIA and may cause some instability (at least with my current setup).
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Grggles
02-17-2024, 04:18 PM #9

I haven’t noticed a motherboard lacking PWM headers that can’t manage DC fans, spanning from budget options under $50 to higher-end models around $500. This suggests you probably don’t need concern about that issue. The TUF board isn’t the top choice for overclocking, but the MSI Tomahawk edges it out at a similar price point; however, since the Tomahawk isn’t available in mATX, the TUF should work just fine. I wouldn’t be surprised if you can manage all fan control through the BIOS, and there should be four dedicated lanes for the top M.2 slot—no lanes should be disabled. It also supports resizable BAR, though based on my experience it offers limited benefit for NVIDIA and may cause some instability (at least with my current setup).

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DYLARK01
Member
199
02-17-2024, 06:10 PM
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Meet the msi b350m mortar then It *can* control them, but not on all headers - even though it lets you choose "DC" in the mobo, DC fans will just run at 100% on those headers… pwm works no problem… hence Im asking, but I see it shouldnt be an issue then. Ah, ok, it isnt something I want to do right away, but it would be nice to have the option. Oh, also I just noticed my mobo still has PPT limit set to 1000w lol That happened when i set PBO to "motherboard" controlled yesterday, but I since then reverted that setting several times, or so I thought… Thats why this mobo is trash lol, it "forgets" things and you cant rely on what it says in settings either… I think probably just a full CMOS reset is going to fix that, hopefully…
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DYLARK01
02-17-2024, 06:10 PM #10

Meet the msi b350m mortar then It *can* control them, but not on all headers - even though it lets you choose "DC" in the mobo, DC fans will just run at 100% on those headers… pwm works no problem… hence Im asking, but I see it shouldnt be an issue then. Ah, ok, it isnt something I want to do right away, but it would be nice to have the option. Oh, also I just noticed my mobo still has PPT limit set to 1000w lol That happened when i set PBO to "motherboard" controlled yesterday, but I since then reverted that setting several times, or so I thought… Thats why this mobo is trash lol, it "forgets" things and you cant rely on what it says in settings either… I think probably just a full CMOS reset is going to fix that, hopefully…