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Attempting to maximize performance on my Ryzen 7 2700x

Attempting to maximize performance on my Ryzen 7 2700x

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Keysythes
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08-26-2018, 04:37 AM
#11
We're reaching the end of the AM4 CPU line. The next generation will be Zen 4 on AM5, which is likely to be significantly pricier (motherboard, CPU, memory) if AMD only introduces it with DDR5 support that's currently being reported. In this case, a Ryzen 5000 CPU would be the most suitable option for this board. Although it may not support PCIe Gen 4, it hasn't been proven to negatively impact gaming performance. You could wait for DDR5 memory prices to drop alongside the rest of the market. A solid gaming upgrade on this board would be either a 5600X or 5700X. The top-tier gaming CPU available is the 5800X3D, but it comes with a reasonable price if you manage to find it. It should function well with your system.
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Keysythes
08-26-2018, 04:37 AM #11

We're reaching the end of the AM4 CPU line. The next generation will be Zen 4 on AM5, which is likely to be significantly pricier (motherboard, CPU, memory) if AMD only introduces it with DDR5 support that's currently being reported. In this case, a Ryzen 5000 CPU would be the most suitable option for this board. Although it may not support PCIe Gen 4, it hasn't been proven to negatively impact gaming performance. You could wait for DDR5 memory prices to drop alongside the rest of the market. A solid gaming upgrade on this board would be either a 5600X or 5700X. The top-tier gaming CPU available is the 5800X3D, but it comes with a reasonable price if you manage to find it. It should function well with your system.

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SnazzyMeow
Junior Member
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08-26-2018, 02:27 PM
#12
You're using a Ryzen processor instead of an Intel one. Even if the system runs properly, there aren't many similarities between these two types of CPUs. They behave differently, think in unique ways, and react differently. Applying a static overclock to a Ryzen is unlikely to benefit anyone. This applies not only to the hardware but also to you as the user—Ryzen's clock speeds vary, and achieving better performance often comes from lower clocks rather than higher speeds. A strong static overclock might even reduce overall performance compared to a more balanced dynamic setting.

Consider using Clocktuner2, created by 1usmus with contributions from Linus, Buildzoid, and experienced Amd overclockers. It offers straightforward guidance and tutorials. You can also use Dram Calculator to optimize your RAM settings, as Ryzen systems benefit significantly from faster memory operation. Just keep in mind that neither tool works universally; your specific CPU and RAM configuration will influence the results. Expect adjustments to be necessary for each setup.
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SnazzyMeow
08-26-2018, 02:27 PM #12

You're using a Ryzen processor instead of an Intel one. Even if the system runs properly, there aren't many similarities between these two types of CPUs. They behave differently, think in unique ways, and react differently. Applying a static overclock to a Ryzen is unlikely to benefit anyone. This applies not only to the hardware but also to you as the user—Ryzen's clock speeds vary, and achieving better performance often comes from lower clocks rather than higher speeds. A strong static overclock might even reduce overall performance compared to a more balanced dynamic setting.

Consider using Clocktuner2, created by 1usmus with contributions from Linus, Buildzoid, and experienced Amd overclockers. It offers straightforward guidance and tutorials. You can also use Dram Calculator to optimize your RAM settings, as Ryzen systems benefit significantly from faster memory operation. Just keep in mind that neither tool works universally; your specific CPU and RAM configuration will influence the results. Expect adjustments to be necessary for each setup.

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pokesegachao
Member
199
09-01-2018, 02:03 AM
#13
Thank you both for the helpful details. It seems things are improving since I switched from OC to PBO and increased my CPU fan speeds. This appears to be a solid improvement at the moment. I've previously used the DRAM Calculator but it didn't work well. I own four 8GB 3000Mhz Corsair RAM sticks. Based on what I've observed, using multiple sticks can slow things down, though I'd like to understand if that's the case. With just two sticks, they were stable at 3200 MHz, but now I'm struggling to exceed 2933 MHz for some reason.
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pokesegachao
09-01-2018, 02:03 AM #13

Thank you both for the helpful details. It seems things are improving since I switched from OC to PBO and increased my CPU fan speeds. This appears to be a solid improvement at the moment. I've previously used the DRAM Calculator but it didn't work well. I own four 8GB 3000Mhz Corsair RAM sticks. Based on what I've observed, using multiple sticks can slow things down, though I'd like to understand if that's the case. With just two sticks, they were stable at 3200 MHz, but now I'm struggling to exceed 2933 MHz for some reason.

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gnilrets1224
Junior Member
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09-08-2018, 05:28 AM
#14
I had been using a 2700X for several years on an X370 Taichi. It never really stood out in terms of stability and power under an overclock as much as it performed when left alone. On my machine, PBO also didn’t cause any trouble. I think the issue lies more with the design of that generation’s Taichi rather than its raw power, since the Taichi from that era is praised for strong performance. In your situation, I’m pretty sure the main limitation is beyond just cooling.

Stock cooler and/or cheaper tower coolers won’t be ideal if you want to push more out of a 1+ generation refresh—essentially a tweaked, factory-optimized chip with minor improvements. Of course, they’re still solid and functional, but their factory settings were well-suited for reliable performance.

Side note—I can’t overclock RAM past 29xx-3000 on an X4 as well.
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gnilrets1224
09-08-2018, 05:28 AM #14

I had been using a 2700X for several years on an X370 Taichi. It never really stood out in terms of stability and power under an overclock as much as it performed when left alone. On my machine, PBO also didn’t cause any trouble. I think the issue lies more with the design of that generation’s Taichi rather than its raw power, since the Taichi from that era is praised for strong performance. In your situation, I’m pretty sure the main limitation is beyond just cooling.

Stock cooler and/or cheaper tower coolers won’t be ideal if you want to push more out of a 1+ generation refresh—essentially a tweaked, factory-optimized chip with minor improvements. Of course, they’re still solid and functional, but their factory settings were well-suited for reliable performance.

Side note—I can’t overclock RAM past 29xx-3000 on an X4 as well.

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cobra_9041
Member
65
09-08-2018, 09:01 AM
#15
That's accurate. The method most motherboards use to connect RAM sockets varies, and some perform better with different approaches, though they may struggle with dual sticks.
In your case, it's a balance: matching the memory clock speed to the capacity. When handling large data arrays, this remains significantly superior to relying on virtual memory.
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cobra_9041
09-08-2018, 09:01 AM #15

That's accurate. The method most motherboards use to connect RAM sockets varies, and some perform better with different approaches, though they may struggle with dual sticks.
In your case, it's a balance: matching the memory clock speed to the capacity. When handling large data arrays, this remains significantly superior to relying on virtual memory.

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sparklyfruit
Junior Member
15
09-08-2018, 12:59 PM
#16
The Ryzen 2000 series and earlier models had some issues with RAM, mainly due to Fclock/Mclock and Uclock working together. This affected speeds, especially for A2/B2 slots which offered near-infinite rates, while A1/B1 slots had a default of 2133MHz. Using four sticks at 2133MHz worked well, even with 2400MHz sticks. The situation changed around 2666MHz, where most manufacturers still managed, but some faced problems with low-grade silicon, poor timings, and high voltages. By reaching 2933MHz, many options became limited, mainly due to a 266Hz derivative, which was similar to a 3000MHz version at 200Hz but more stable. At 3200MHz, performance improved significantly, offering better stability and higher-grade silicon for optimal tuning. Only a few people could successfully achieve 4 sticks at 3200MHz on older generations, unless they were very fortunate. Also, the importance of RAM rank was clear—single-rank RAM like Trident-Z with Samsung B-die performed much better than dual-rank options. Most 8Gb and higher sticks are single-rank, while 16Gb+ typically require dual-rank. Getting a stable 32Gb at 2933MHz would usually lead to settling around 2666MHz instead.
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sparklyfruit
09-08-2018, 12:59 PM #16

The Ryzen 2000 series and earlier models had some issues with RAM, mainly due to Fclock/Mclock and Uclock working together. This affected speeds, especially for A2/B2 slots which offered near-infinite rates, while A1/B1 slots had a default of 2133MHz. Using four sticks at 2133MHz worked well, even with 2400MHz sticks. The situation changed around 2666MHz, where most manufacturers still managed, but some faced problems with low-grade silicon, poor timings, and high voltages. By reaching 2933MHz, many options became limited, mainly due to a 266Hz derivative, which was similar to a 3000MHz version at 200Hz but more stable. At 3200MHz, performance improved significantly, offering better stability and higher-grade silicon for optimal tuning. Only a few people could successfully achieve 4 sticks at 3200MHz on older generations, unless they were very fortunate. Also, the importance of RAM rank was clear—single-rank RAM like Trident-Z with Samsung B-die performed much better than dual-rank options. Most 8Gb and higher sticks are single-rank, while 16Gb+ typically require dual-rank. Getting a stable 32Gb at 2933MHz would usually lead to settling around 2666MHz instead.

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