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Are there others stuck with AMD AM4 who don’t want to upgrade to AM5 due to the memory shortage problem?

Are there others stuck with AMD AM4 who don’t want to upgrade to AM5 due to the memory shortage problem?

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Vyse72
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01-03-2023, 06:59 PM
#11
Things are still unclear since we're not AMD, but the demand looks significant. Linus mentioned the AI bubble collapse won't quickly resolve the RAM shortage. We might face at least another year of this challenge, which is likely to get worse each day. If I owned AMD, I'd consider using older stock and reworking Zen 3 again. There are many DDR4 and AM4 boards available right now.
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Vyse72
01-03-2023, 06:59 PM #11

Things are still unclear since we're not AMD, but the demand looks significant. Linus mentioned the AI bubble collapse won't quickly resolve the RAM shortage. We might face at least another year of this challenge, which is likely to get worse each day. If I owned AMD, I'd consider using older stock and reworking Zen 3 again. There are many DDR4 and AM4 boards available right now.

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Blue_Fox_Lady
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01-04-2023, 03:17 AM
#12
Eh, in a "realistic" setup this really isn't the case. Check out these benchmarks: Splitgate does have bad 1% lows on the single-channel setup, but when you're stuttering due to hitting RAM and CPU limits you can often just set a lower frame cap to alleviate the pressure on the system and then the stuttering will subside. Regardless, in demanding modern games I'm actually limited by my 2070 Super the vast majority of the time. For example, recently I've played: -Immortals of Aveum -Horizon: Forbidden West -Alan Wake 2 -The Callisto Protocol -Ghostwire Tokyo -Guardians of the Galaxy In all of these games the only time I noticed my system becoming significantly CPU-bound was the hub area in Immortals of Aveum. So overall it's probably not worth it (especially considering the problem might be my CPU's memory controller and not the motherboard).
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Blue_Fox_Lady
01-04-2023, 03:17 AM #12

Eh, in a "realistic" setup this really isn't the case. Check out these benchmarks: Splitgate does have bad 1% lows on the single-channel setup, but when you're stuttering due to hitting RAM and CPU limits you can often just set a lower frame cap to alleviate the pressure on the system and then the stuttering will subside. Regardless, in demanding modern games I'm actually limited by my 2070 Super the vast majority of the time. For example, recently I've played: -Immortals of Aveum -Horizon: Forbidden West -Alan Wake 2 -The Callisto Protocol -Ghostwire Tokyo -Guardians of the Galaxy In all of these games the only time I noticed my system becoming significantly CPU-bound was the hub area in Immortals of Aveum. So overall it's probably not worth it (especially considering the problem might be my CPU's memory controller and not the motherboard).

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The_Prinnce
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01-06-2023, 02:46 AM
#13
Relocated to CPUs, motherboards, and memory systems
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The_Prinnce
01-06-2023, 02:46 AM #13

Relocated to CPUs, motherboards, and memory systems

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vanessab12
Junior Member
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01-24-2023, 10:50 AM
#14
I definitely wouldn't be making the leap if I had a functional AM4 platform. I LOVE my first-gen AM5, but I upgraded from an ancient (4790k) platform before this mess. If I had something remotely modern (probably 10th gen Intel/ryzen 3000) I'd be waiting it out. With a 5600 I might try to flip the CPU towards a 5800 or 5900 since you're probably looking at two more years and there's an easy upgrade path... But you'll be fine where you are.
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vanessab12
01-24-2023, 10:50 AM #14

I definitely wouldn't be making the leap if I had a functional AM4 platform. I LOVE my first-gen AM5, but I upgraded from an ancient (4790k) platform before this mess. If I had something remotely modern (probably 10th gen Intel/ryzen 3000) I'd be waiting it out. With a 5600 I might try to flip the CPU towards a 5800 or 5900 since you're probably looking at two more years and there's an easy upgrade path... But you'll be fine where you are.

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V4L3N73
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01-31-2023, 07:55 PM
#15
In the PH, AM5 DDR5 offers a more budget-friendly option compared to a 5700x3D. A 9600 and a reasonable motherboard price match a used 5700x3D. DDR5 is marginally more expensive than DDR4.
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V4L3N73
01-31-2023, 07:55 PM #15

In the PH, AM5 DDR5 offers a more budget-friendly option compared to a 5700x3D. A 9600 and a reasonable motherboard price match a used 5700x3D. DDR5 is marginally more expensive than DDR4.

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MikeDragon159
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02-08-2023, 02:23 AM
#16
Running a 5800x3d with 32GB RAM, 2TB NVMe and an RTX 3070 meets my current gaming requirements (upgrade card possible next generation). For a second PC aimed at 3D CAD modeling and video editing, I need at least 64GB RAM up to 128GB. Switching to another AM4 configuration restricts future upgrades, especially with rumors about Zen 7 still using AM5. That means I might settle for 16GB, 24GB or 32GB and later add more RAM.
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MikeDragon159
02-08-2023, 02:23 AM #16

Running a 5800x3d with 32GB RAM, 2TB NVMe and an RTX 3070 meets my current gaming requirements (upgrade card possible next generation). For a second PC aimed at 3D CAD modeling and video editing, I need at least 64GB RAM up to 128GB. Switching to another AM4 configuration restricts future upgrades, especially with rumors about Zen 7 still using AM5. That means I might settle for 16GB, 24GB or 32GB and later add more RAM.

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liamlxe
Junior Member
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02-09-2023, 05:42 AM
#17
I'm sticking with my AM4 setup right now mainly because the memory situation makes a platform change out of budget. I'll likely wait until the Zen 6/7 release to see if RAM prices stabilize and then consider upgrading to something more advanced on the AM5 for better value than what's available now. The desire to upgrade is there, but the current DDR5 pricing is really discouraging.
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liamlxe
02-09-2023, 05:42 AM #17

I'm sticking with my AM4 setup right now mainly because the memory situation makes a platform change out of budget. I'll likely wait until the Zen 6/7 release to see if RAM prices stabilize and then consider upgrading to something more advanced on the AM5 for better value than what's available now. The desire to upgrade is there, but the current DDR5 pricing is really discouraging.

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JakeusMeakus
Junior Member
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02-15-2023, 03:56 AM
#18
I'm also using an AM4 board not because of RAM costs, but simply because I needed it for a while and that decision was made before prices rose. My system requirements aren't high, so an AM4 will suffice for now. I'm pleased I purchased 64 GB (two 32 GB units) before the price increase. The same configuration now costs nearly nine times what I paid in May. I wish I had more of it, but that's just how things are since my ability to predict trends is limited. I'll make do with enough AM4 parts to build at least two other systems here, but since I'm running only one, this will keep me going as long as it lasts.
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JakeusMeakus
02-15-2023, 03:56 AM #18

I'm also using an AM4 board not because of RAM costs, but simply because I needed it for a while and that decision was made before prices rose. My system requirements aren't high, so an AM4 will suffice for now. I'm pleased I purchased 64 GB (two 32 GB units) before the price increase. The same configuration now costs nearly nine times what I paid in May. I wish I had more of it, but that's just how things are since my ability to predict trends is limited. I'll make do with enough AM4 parts to build at least two other systems here, but since I'm running only one, this will keep me going as long as it lasts.

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