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AMD Ryzen APU featuring Vega graphics suitable for World of Warcraft and music creation?

AMD Ryzen APU featuring Vega graphics suitable for World of Warcraft and music creation?

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grr_face1
Member
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03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
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I don’t consider myself a dedicated PC gamer; I simply enjoy playing video games on my computer occasionally, typically through World of Warcraft. As a beginner in PC assembly, I’ve decided to construct a personal computer primarily intended for music creation – one that can also smoothly operate World of Warcraft. I’ve recently begun researching components and the process of building a PC itself.

I realize there are numerous elements involved, including monitor specifications, memory speed and storage capacity, hard drive performance and format, power supply wattage, and overclocking capabilities. However, my primary focus is:

1. Compact size – I strongly dislike large towers and extensive PC footprints on my desk. My music production equipment requires ample workspace, so I’m aiming for a small-form factor PC utilizing an APU/CPU with exceptional integrated graphics and devoid of a discrete graphics card, all mounted on a miniature ITX motherboard.

2. Moderately powerful hardware capable of running games like World of Warcraft at medium to high settings and quality.

I have some inquiries:

Can AMD’s Ryzen APU/CPU line, featuring integrated Vega graphics, adequately manage World of Warcraft without a separate graphics card? Should I consider switching to Intel’s Core i series instead? Does Intel even produce a Core i processor with integrated graphics, aside from the older Intel HD Graphics models used by Apple in their Mac Minis?

Will a basic AMD Ryzen with Vega graphics suffice for my needs, or should I opt for the highest-tier AMD Ryzen Vega model? What constitutes an optimal value-for-money CPU with integrated graphics currently available on the market? Is AMD’s Ryzen series my only viable option for a PC with integrated graphics?

Please forgive the numerous questions; I’m new to building my own computers.
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grr_face1
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #1

I don’t consider myself a dedicated PC gamer; I simply enjoy playing video games on my computer occasionally, typically through World of Warcraft. As a beginner in PC assembly, I’ve decided to construct a personal computer primarily intended for music creation – one that can also smoothly operate World of Warcraft. I’ve recently begun researching components and the process of building a PC itself.

I realize there are numerous elements involved, including monitor specifications, memory speed and storage capacity, hard drive performance and format, power supply wattage, and overclocking capabilities. However, my primary focus is:

1. Compact size – I strongly dislike large towers and extensive PC footprints on my desk. My music production equipment requires ample workspace, so I’m aiming for a small-form factor PC utilizing an APU/CPU with exceptional integrated graphics and devoid of a discrete graphics card, all mounted on a miniature ITX motherboard.

2. Moderately powerful hardware capable of running games like World of Warcraft at medium to high settings and quality.

I have some inquiries:

Can AMD’s Ryzen APU/CPU line, featuring integrated Vega graphics, adequately manage World of Warcraft without a separate graphics card? Should I consider switching to Intel’s Core i series instead? Does Intel even produce a Core i processor with integrated graphics, aside from the older Intel HD Graphics models used by Apple in their Mac Minis?

Will a basic AMD Ryzen with Vega graphics suffice for my needs, or should I opt for the highest-tier AMD Ryzen Vega model? What constitutes an optimal value-for-money CPU with integrated graphics currently available on the market? Is AMD’s Ryzen series my only viable option for a PC with integrated graphics?

Please forgive the numerous questions; I’m new to building my own computers.

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BaseHorn
Junior Member
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03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#2
I believe that's a reasonable assessment. Around 2012, I experimented with an AMD E350 motherboard as a home theater PC. It could handle World of Warcraft at low to medium settings with a resolution of 1164x862. That particular board likely operated at a TDP of 18 watts. (It was purely for experimentation, as I still possessed a separate gaming computer.)

The Ryzen 5 2400G is, in effect, akin to an RX550—utilizing your system memory instead of GDDR5. Few other integrated graphics solutions can match its performance.

Nearly all contemporary consumer processors feature built-in graphics capabilities. There were a handful of initial exclusions, and occasionally, chips with graphics disabled altogether. The more robust integrated Intel graphics, the Iris Pro, are typically only found in BGA-soldered configurations. A few older models from the very limited 5th generation Broadwell chips represented an exception.

Currently, no desktop components surpass Intel’s HD620 and HD630 graphics levels in terms of performance. While adequate for some light gaming, they don't come close to the power of Ryzen APUs.

I plan to assemble a compact system for testing later. Fitting everything within the small form factor can take some time.

And I nearly missed something crucial. Intel and AMD collaborated, integrating Vega graphics into certain processors. It appears these are primarily limited to NUCs at this time, and they are considerably costly.
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BaseHorn
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #2

I believe that's a reasonable assessment. Around 2012, I experimented with an AMD E350 motherboard as a home theater PC. It could handle World of Warcraft at low to medium settings with a resolution of 1164x862. That particular board likely operated at a TDP of 18 watts. (It was purely for experimentation, as I still possessed a separate gaming computer.)

The Ryzen 5 2400G is, in effect, akin to an RX550—utilizing your system memory instead of GDDR5. Few other integrated graphics solutions can match its performance.

Nearly all contemporary consumer processors feature built-in graphics capabilities. There were a handful of initial exclusions, and occasionally, chips with graphics disabled altogether. The more robust integrated Intel graphics, the Iris Pro, are typically only found in BGA-soldered configurations. A few older models from the very limited 5th generation Broadwell chips represented an exception.

Currently, no desktop components surpass Intel’s HD620 and HD630 graphics levels in terms of performance. While adequate for some light gaming, they don't come close to the power of Ryzen APUs.

I plan to assemble a compact system for testing later. Fitting everything within the small form factor can take some time.

And I nearly missed something crucial. Intel and AMD collaborated, integrating Vega graphics into certain processors. It appears these are primarily limited to NUCs at this time, and they are considerably costly.

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onezeny
Member
186
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#3
An Intel Hades Canyon featuring integrated Vega G or Vega GH graphics:
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Machine-NUC...B07BR5GK1V
These are packaged systems, requiring you to add storage and memory yourself, as well as an operating system, or choose pre-configured options for those components.
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onezeny
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #3

An Intel Hades Canyon featuring integrated Vega G or Vega GH graphics:
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Machine-NUC...B07BR5GK1V
These are packaged systems, requiring you to add storage and memory yourself, as well as an operating system, or choose pre-configured options for those components.

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SkylanderAlex
Member
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03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#4
It seems that focusing on larger components is increasing the cost significantly. How much are you hoping to spend in total?

This configuration represents a budget-friendly option, offering a reasonable amount of space. You could upgrade to an R3 2200G processor if you believe that enhancement is worthwhile. Additional storage capacity can also be easily added.

Here’s a PCPartPicker component list:

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G – 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard:
Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 – ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance LPX – 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
Samsung 970 Evo – 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Case:
Silverstone SG05B-USB3.0 (Black) Mini ITX Desktop Case with 300W Power Supply ($110.00 @ Amazon)
Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $676.75 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and available discounts)

This list was generated by PCPartPicker on 2019-02-13 at 17:43 EST-0500.

Smaller, more compact cases exist that can further reduce the dimensions; however, these tend to be considerably pricier, often ranging from $150 to $200 or more. Furthermore, you would then need to acquire a smaller power supply and potentially invest in a higher-end cooler.
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SkylanderAlex
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #4

It seems that focusing on larger components is increasing the cost significantly. How much are you hoping to spend in total?

This configuration represents a budget-friendly option, offering a reasonable amount of space. You could upgrade to an R3 2200G processor if you believe that enhancement is worthwhile. Additional storage capacity can also be easily added.

Here’s a PCPartPicker component list:

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G – 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard:
Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 – ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance LPX – 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
Samsung 970 Evo – 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Case:
Silverstone SG05B-USB3.0 (Black) Mini ITX Desktop Case with 300W Power Supply ($110.00 @ Amazon)
Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $676.75 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and available discounts)

This list was generated by PCPartPicker on 2019-02-13 at 17:43 EST-0500.

Smaller, more compact cases exist that can further reduce the dimensions; however, these tend to be considerably pricier, often ranging from $150 to $200 or more. Furthermore, you would then need to acquire a smaller power supply and potentially invest in a higher-end cooler.

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Milad_PvP
Member
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03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#5
Thank you for providing the component list. It was extremely helpful as a reference to determine compatible parts.
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Milad_PvP
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #5

Thank you for providing the component list. It was extremely helpful as a reference to determine compatible parts.

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JBeast2014
Member
169
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#6
To achieve optimal performance for music production, it’s recommended to utilize a computer system featuring a motherboard that supports USB C 3.1 Gen 2 or Thunderbolt 3 connectivity. This configuration is particularly beneficial for producers who require extremely rapid data transfer speeds when recording audio and playing back music, especially with an Audio Interface utilizing Thunderbolt 3 or USB C technology.
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JBeast2014
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #6

To achieve optimal performance for music production, it’s recommended to utilize a computer system featuring a motherboard that supports USB C 3.1 Gen 2 or Thunderbolt 3 connectivity. This configuration is particularly beneficial for producers who require extremely rapid data transfer speeds when recording audio and playing back music, especially with an Audio Interface utilizing Thunderbolt 3 or USB C technology.

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Brendy
Junior Member
18
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#7
A 250 gigabyte solid-state drive feels somewhat inadequate for me, considering my extensive collection of virtual instruments, audio samples, and musical content used in music production. I anticipated a 500 gigabyte M.2 SSD would be the most suitable choice, as my existing hard drive is nearly completely full and currently utilizes a 256 gigabyte solid-state drive.
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Brendy
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #7

A 250 gigabyte solid-state drive feels somewhat inadequate for me, considering my extensive collection of virtual instruments, audio samples, and musical content used in music production. I anticipated a 500 gigabyte M.2 SSD would be the most suitable choice, as my existing hard drive is nearly completely full and currently utilizes a 256 gigabyte solid-state drive.

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croc517552
Junior Member
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03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#8
I’m attempting to construct a personal computer utilizing the absolute lowest specifications conceivable, with the aim of accommodating all my computing activities and games as previously described. Could I realistically assemble a system for $500 that would deliver acceptable video quality for World of Warcraft and reasonably efficient audio production performance?
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croc517552
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #8

I’m attempting to construct a personal computer utilizing the absolute lowest specifications conceivable, with the aim of accommodating all my computing activities and games as previously described. Could I realistically assemble a system for $500 that would deliver acceptable video quality for World of Warcraft and reasonably efficient audio production performance?

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03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#9
Here’s a revised version of your text:

A combination case and power supply unit is typically more affordable than purchasing them individually, so a pre-packaged system would likely be the most efficient choice. However, I have concerns about these bundled offerings because manufacturers often select lower-quality power supplies to reduce expenses, which can lead to frequent computer malfunctions and considerable problems, particularly when gaming. Regarding music creation, power supply reliability isn't a major concern as long as the unit provides sufficient wattage to handle peak performance of all components. In music production, limitations are generally determined by factors like memory capacity and speed, storage drive performance, and processor capabilities.
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HelloItsMeDaro
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #9

Here’s a revised version of your text:

A combination case and power supply unit is typically more affordable than purchasing them individually, so a pre-packaged system would likely be the most efficient choice. However, I have concerns about these bundled offerings because manufacturers often select lower-quality power supplies to reduce expenses, which can lead to frequent computer malfunctions and considerable problems, particularly when gaming. Regarding music creation, power supply reliability isn't a major concern as long as the unit provides sufficient wattage to handle peak performance of all components. In music production, limitations are generally determined by factors like memory capacity and speed, storage drive performance, and processor capabilities.

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OFEK1
Member
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03-09-2025, 09:21 PM
#10
Likely, you’ll be satisfied with an option costing approximately $500.

I advise against purchasing a case and power supply as a single unit, as the inexpensive power supplies tend to be poor quality and have a short lifespan, potentially damaging other parts.

Regarding your questions about Thunderbolt or USB Type C, numerous current motherboards incorporate a Type C port or a connector for one. Thunderbolt is generally reserved for higher-end motherboards.

Let me know if this information proves useful!
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OFEK1
03-09-2025, 09:21 PM #10

Likely, you’ll be satisfied with an option costing approximately $500.

I advise against purchasing a case and power supply as a single unit, as the inexpensive power supplies tend to be poor quality and have a short lifespan, potentially damaging other parts.

Regarding your questions about Thunderbolt or USB Type C, numerous current motherboards incorporate a Type C port or a connector for one. Thunderbolt is generally reserved for higher-end motherboards.

Let me know if this information proves useful!

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