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AMD is deciding whether to make the OEM version available now or delay it until later.

AMD is deciding whether to make the OEM version available now or delay it until later.

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XLegolas44X
Junior Member
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03-27-2021, 01:27 PM
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Upon discovering that Ryzen 4000G APUs and R9 12C/24T AM4 CPUs are now sold only through OEM channels with retail versions, I realized this was quite surprising. Was it really unexpected? Didn't DIY PC Builders contribute by purchasing large quantities of Ryzen CPUs to revive AMD? Of course, since I'm a DIY enthusiast, if I were running a CPU/GPU business I would strive to both preserve the desktop ecosystem and boost the appeal of do-it-yourself builds.
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XLegolas44X
03-27-2021, 01:27 PM #1

Upon discovering that Ryzen 4000G APUs and R9 12C/24T AM4 CPUs are now sold only through OEM channels with retail versions, I realized this was quite surprising. Was it really unexpected? Didn't DIY PC Builders contribute by purchasing large quantities of Ryzen CPUs to revive AMD? Of course, since I'm a DIY enthusiast, if I were running a CPU/GPU business I would strive to both preserve the desktop ecosystem and boost the appeal of do-it-yourself builds.

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xX_IceyWolf_Xx
Senior Member
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03-28-2021, 06:34 PM
#2
5000G Series APUs are launching soon. AMD earns from OEMs, and they aren't prioritizing the DIY market much despite our support. Still, I hope 4000G is limited to DIY only—it's quite frustrating.
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xX_IceyWolf_Xx
03-28-2021, 06:34 PM #2

5000G Series APUs are launching soon. AMD earns from OEMs, and they aren't prioritizing the DIY market much despite our support. Still, I hope 4000G is limited to DIY only—it's quite frustrating.

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ItzCh3nTi_YT
Member
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04-16-2021, 02:40 AM
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OEM makers dominate the PC market share. Consider a company purchasing hundreds of computers for its office instead of just one CPU. The more you engage with a business, the greater your influence becomes. These CPUs may start with low production numbers but will quickly attract high demand from OEMs, as contracts become extremely lucrative for AMD. Regarding DIY builders saving AMD, it might be accurate—but they received significant value without expecting it. PC builders didn’t purchase these chips out of kindness, and AMD wasn’t selling them for free. Understanding this helps remind us that businesses aren’t always aligned with our interests.
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ItzCh3nTi_YT
04-16-2021, 02:40 AM #3

OEM makers dominate the PC market share. Consider a company purchasing hundreds of computers for its office instead of just one CPU. The more you engage with a business, the greater your influence becomes. These CPUs may start with low production numbers but will quickly attract high demand from OEMs, as contracts become extremely lucrative for AMD. Regarding DIY builders saving AMD, it might be accurate—but they received significant value without expecting it. PC builders didn’t purchase these chips out of kindness, and AMD wasn’t selling them for free. Understanding this helps remind us that businesses aren’t always aligned with our interests.

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RRadaa
Junior Member
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04-16-2021, 08:39 AM
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I hope AMD brings out the Ryzen 9 5900 for home builders. 12 cores and 24 threads, with a lower TDP thanks to slower base clocks. Ideal. Regarding the 5000G GPUs, I get why AMD is holding off (if they drop now you’ll see the new Ryzen 7 5700G priced at $800, but I’d love to see them available today).
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RRadaa
04-16-2021, 08:39 AM #4

I hope AMD brings out the Ryzen 9 5900 for home builders. 12 cores and 24 threads, with a lower TDP thanks to slower base clocks. Ideal. Regarding the 5000G GPUs, I get why AMD is holding off (if they drop now you’ll see the new Ryzen 7 5700G priced at $800, but I’d love to see them available today).

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evilmeerkatt
Junior Member
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04-22-2021, 04:20 AM
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It could be said that at least the OEMs are certain AMD delivers products to customers who are satisfied and likely to keep purchasing from them in the future. There’s no need for reselling, as the items go straight to computer manufacturers, which is another advantage.
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evilmeerkatt
04-22-2021, 04:20 AM #5

It could be said that at least the OEMs are certain AMD delivers products to customers who are satisfied and likely to keep purchasing from them in the future. There’s no need for reselling, as the items go straight to computer manufacturers, which is another advantage.

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NinjaPenguinMC
Junior Member
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05-01-2021, 11:13 PM
#6
I understand you're concerned about businesses not being your ally. However, it seems you're wondering if AMD might offer both OEM and retail options when products are released.
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NinjaPenguinMC
05-01-2021, 11:13 PM #6

I understand you're concerned about businesses not being your ally. However, it seems you're wondering if AMD might offer both OEM and retail options when products are released.

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05-03-2021, 06:19 PM
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They might sell out quickly if they release a CPU for DIY, and the community would likely react negatively.
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le_marseillais
05-03-2021, 06:19 PM #7

They might sell out quickly if they release a CPU for DIY, and the community would likely react negatively.

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miknes123
Senior Member
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05-04-2021, 06:27 PM
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I believe AMD made a smart comeback. We only chose their products because they offered strong value at competitive prices. If the offerings didn’t meet expectations or didn’t justify the cost compared to Intel, we wouldn’t have acted. If I owned AMD, I’d focus on strategies that maximize profit, usually through partnerships with OEMs. Currently, keeping manufacturing costs high aligns with that approach.
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miknes123
05-04-2021, 06:27 PM #8

I believe AMD made a smart comeback. We only chose their products because they offered strong value at competitive prices. If the offerings didn’t meet expectations or didn’t justify the cost compared to Intel, we wouldn’t have acted. If I owned AMD, I’d focus on strategies that maximize profit, usually through partnerships with OEMs. Currently, keeping manufacturing costs high aligns with that approach.

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MegaRieta
Junior Member
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05-12-2021, 09:45 AM
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No, Intel doesn't do this. I swear I got my Retail i5-4670 about one to two months after the Haswell release.
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MegaRieta
05-12-2021, 09:45 AM #9

No, Intel doesn't do this. I swear I got my Retail i5-4670 about one to two months after the Haswell release.

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Rafa
Member
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05-15-2021, 08:47 AM
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They came back to the market. I didn't choose AMD this time since others did. I picked them for their IPC gains, faster clocks, and improved boost performance.
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Rafa
05-15-2021, 08:47 AM #10

They came back to the market. I didn't choose AMD this time since others did. I picked them for their IPC gains, faster clocks, and improved boost performance.

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