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A possible bottleneck?

A possible bottleneck?

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Pandaswipe
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07-21-2016, 12:55 PM
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“I'm hoping to connect with this community and learn from others.

I’m experiencing performance issues in various games – Jedi Fallen Order, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, even older titles like Assassin’s Creed 2 – which I believe is due to a CPU bottleneck. My system consists of an i5-3470 processor, a GTX 970 graphics card, and 8GB of RAM.

I’m noticing that my CPU usage consistently hits 80-90% while my GPU usage remains at 50-60%, resulting in fluctuating frame rates across all games I play.

Is it possible for a bottleneck to affect even older games, regardless of their age? If so, what specific upgrades would you recommend to address this issue?”
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Pandaswipe
07-21-2016, 12:55 PM #1

Here’s a revised version of your text, aiming for clarity and conciseness:

“I'm hoping to connect with this community and learn from others.

I’m experiencing performance issues in various games – Jedi Fallen Order, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, even older titles like Assassin’s Creed 2 – which I believe is due to a CPU bottleneck. My system consists of an i5-3470 processor, a GTX 970 graphics card, and 8GB of RAM.

I’m noticing that my CPU usage consistently hits 80-90% while my GPU usage remains at 50-60%, resulting in fluctuating frame rates across all games I play.

Is it possible for a bottleneck to affect even older games, regardless of their age? If so, what specific upgrades would you recommend to address this issue?”

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Chickenwang24
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07-21-2016, 03:03 PM
#2
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Upgrading your computer can significantly improve performance. Consider an Intel Core i7-3770 or i7-3770K processor – these offer a noticeable speed boost compared to an i5 like the 3470. You’ll likely see around a 40% increase in benchmark scores, effectively eliminating lag from older systems. These processors are commonly available on eBay for approximately $70 used. Referencing benchmark tests (like those linked) demonstrates this performance gain clearly.
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Chickenwang24
07-21-2016, 03:03 PM #2

Here’s the rewritten text, focusing on clarity and conciseness:

Upgrading your computer can significantly improve performance. Consider an Intel Core i7-3770 or i7-3770K processor – these offer a noticeable speed boost compared to an i5 like the 3470. You’ll likely see around a 40% increase in benchmark scores, effectively eliminating lag from older systems. These processors are commonly available on eBay for approximately $70 used. Referencing benchmark tests (like those linked) demonstrates this performance gain clearly.

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rando2
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07-21-2016, 11:30 PM
#3
When I first looked at your CPU and GPU I thought it was maybe "borderline bottleneck".....and being your usages are what they are....I'm thinking you CPU might be holding back your GPU....so I'd be looking at a different CPU. I'd also be considering upping the RAM to 16 GB. What motherboard are you running?
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rando2
07-21-2016, 11:30 PM #3

When I first looked at your CPU and GPU I thought it was maybe "borderline bottleneck".....and being your usages are what they are....I'm thinking you CPU might be holding back your GPU....so I'd be looking at a different CPU. I'd also be considering upping the RAM to 16 GB. What motherboard are you running?

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bear7001
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07-23-2016, 11:14 AM
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What sort of settings are you using? Try and increase settings in order to push more load onto the GPU. Generally CPU usage increases with higher framerate and GPU increases with settings and resolution.
I would also monitor your RAM usage. 16GB is starting to become the bare minimum in most games with RAM usage easily exceeding 8 these days.
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bear7001
07-23-2016, 11:14 AM #4

What sort of settings are you using? Try and increase settings in order to push more load onto the GPU. Generally CPU usage increases with higher framerate and GPU increases with settings and resolution.
I would also monitor your RAM usage. 16GB is starting to become the bare minimum in most games with RAM usage easily exceeding 8 these days.

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Tavado
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07-23-2016, 04:12 PM
#5
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“To ensure optimal gaming performance, it’s crucial to have sufficient processing power. Currently, with only four cores and eight threads, your system struggles to handle modern games effectively. This limitation causes bottlenecks as the processor can't fully utilize its potential. To resolve this, upgrading to a more powerful CPU is recommended. A cost-effective solution would be to purchase an Intel i7 processor compatible with your existing motherboard – for example, an i7-3770 offers a significant improvement over four cores/eight threads. Alternatively, you could invest in a complete system upgrade including a new CPU (like a Ryzen 5 2600), a compatible motherboard (a B450 chipset would be suitable), and 16GB of DDR4 RAM. These upgrades will dramatically improve gaming experiences by providing the necessary processing power for demanding titles.”
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Tavado
07-23-2016, 04:12 PM #5

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Here’s a revised version of the text:

“To ensure optimal gaming performance, it’s crucial to have sufficient processing power. Currently, with only four cores and eight threads, your system struggles to handle modern games effectively. This limitation causes bottlenecks as the processor can't fully utilize its potential. To resolve this, upgrading to a more powerful CPU is recommended. A cost-effective solution would be to purchase an Intel i7 processor compatible with your existing motherboard – for example, an i7-3770 offers a significant improvement over four cores/eight threads. Alternatively, you could invest in a complete system upgrade including a new CPU (like a Ryzen 5 2600), a compatible motherboard (a B450 chipset would be suitable), and 16GB of DDR4 RAM. These upgrades will dramatically improve gaming experiences by providing the necessary processing power for demanding titles.”

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KJohnson56
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07-23-2016, 04:52 PM
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This would be happening no matter what combination you have, some scenes are easier than others meaning that some scenes will have more FPS than others.
That's also one of the reasons that devs lock FPS to 60 or even 30 sometimes so that the difference in FPS isn't that glaring.
If you don't want a FPS lock you can easily increase the usage on the GPU by increasing resolution or quality which should decrease the fluctuation.
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KJohnson56
07-23-2016, 04:52 PM #6

This would be happening no matter what combination you have, some scenes are easier than others meaning that some scenes will have more FPS than others.
That's also one of the reasons that devs lock FPS to 60 or even 30 sometimes so that the difference in FPS isn't that glaring.
If you don't want a FPS lock you can easily increase the usage on the GPU by increasing resolution or quality which should decrease the fluctuation.

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RubyMine
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07-24-2016, 01:28 AM
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RubyMine
07-24-2016, 01:28 AM #7

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MegaDisco
Senior Member
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07-25-2016, 05:23 PM
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So I did that, my GPU usage did increase to the 70s, but my CPU usage still remained considerably higher, hardly fluctuating below 100.
I'll also monitor my ram usage and give an update asap.
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MegaDisco
07-25-2016, 05:23 PM #8

So I did that, my GPU usage did increase to the 70s, but my CPU usage still remained considerably higher, hardly fluctuating below 100.
I'll also monitor my ram usage and give an update asap.

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EthanLG
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07-27-2016, 09:16 AM
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That’s a really astute observation! You're absolutely right to question the significance of comparing a Ryzen 7 3700X (Zen 2) and a Ryzen 5 3600. Both are third-generation, so the performance gap isn’t as dramatic as between different generations. The 3700X *does* have an advantage due to its higher core count and slightly faster clock speeds, but the difference won't be huge in everyday tasks.

To summarize: The 3700X is a better choice if budget allows for the extra cores/threads which would benefit more intensive workloads like video editing or running multiple applications simultaneously. However, the 3600 still offers excellent value and performance for most users.
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EthanLG
07-27-2016, 09:16 AM #9

That’s a really astute observation! You're absolutely right to question the significance of comparing a Ryzen 7 3700X (Zen 2) and a Ryzen 5 3600. Both are third-generation, so the performance gap isn’t as dramatic as between different generations. The 3700X *does* have an advantage due to its higher core count and slightly faster clock speeds, but the difference won't be huge in everyday tasks.

To summarize: The 3700X is a better choice if budget allows for the extra cores/threads which would benefit more intensive workloads like video editing or running multiple applications simultaneously. However, the 3600 still offers excellent value and performance for most users.

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http_pink_shi
Junior Member
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07-27-2016, 09:30 AM
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Here’s the rewritten text, focusing on clarity and conciseness:

Upgrading your computer can significantly improve performance. A good option is an Intel Core i7-3770 or i7-3770K processor. These processors offer a substantial speed boost – approximately 40% – compared to an i5. You can find them used on eBay for around $70. Benchmarking tests show the i7-3770 consistently outperforms the i5-3470, as demonstrated by these links: [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...GHz&id=822](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...GHz&id=822) and [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...+@+3.40GHz](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...+@+3.40GHz).
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http_pink_shi
07-27-2016, 09:30 AM #10

Here’s the rewritten text, focusing on clarity and conciseness:

Upgrading your computer can significantly improve performance. A good option is an Intel Core i7-3770 or i7-3770K processor. These processors offer a substantial speed boost – approximately 40% – compared to an i5. You can find them used on eBay for around $70. Benchmarking tests show the i7-3770 consistently outperforms the i5-3470, as demonstrated by these links: [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...GHz&id=822](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...GHz&id=822) and [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...+@+3.40GHz](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...+@+3.40GHz).

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