A new OC chipset for a CPU that matches a 2700x board is available from Aorus under the B450 model.
A new OC chipset for a CPU that matches a 2700x board is available from Aorus under the B450 model.
Hi everyone, hope you're doing well. I'm a beginner with OC, so I read some online tutorials about overclocking my Ryzen CPUs. Here is what I have: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X. For cooling: upHere RGB LED Liquid CPU Cooler (120mm PWM). RAM: Ballistix Sport LT BLS8G4D240FSE, which has two DDR4 sticks at 2400 MT/s with a total of 16 GB. GPU: Zotac Nvidia GeForce GTX 2060 SUPER with 8GB. Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS.
I want to talk to you about this: Is it worth trying to overclock the 2700X that is usually stable in all cores around 4000 GHz? I turned off Cool & Quiet and turned on Core Performance Boost from the BIOS. Cool & Quiet was a good idea, but I turned it off because it kept my CPU at about 3900 GHz while I worked hard, and during idle periods, that feature caused huge temperature spikes (going from around 38 C to 55 C), which I don't like. Core Performance Boost changed things: before it was stable at 3700 GHz, now it stays at a stable 4000 GHz all the time when I'm working hard, so that's why I turned it on. So... in the BIOS changing the multiplier feels familiar because of many tutorials I've seen, but my new system has different settings to adjust voltage: Dynamic Vcore (DVID), Dynamic Vcore SOC (DVID), and DRAM Voltage (CH A/B). I don't know how to use these carefully yet. The only thing I know is that you can change the value to give the Vcore a + something or a -something, like +0.3V or -0.3V. Has anyone tried this before? Is there a good tutorial for working with this system? I saw sometimes during Cool & Quiet periods my CPU clock hit 4170 GHz; my dream is to see if it's possible to have stable speeds of 4170 GHz or higher without major problems. Sorry if I rambled too much, but I preferred to write everything down here. See ya!
I actually value your reply a lot. When people read tons of posts and guides, it's really easy to get lost in the wrong place. If you face the same thing later on, I'll give more specifics. My BIOS settings look like this right now:
If you're just playing games or not really, really needing a 10% jump in all cores but less on single ones, buying an X chip is probably wasting your money. Its main thing is the higher PBO boost compared to standard chips. This feature can cut down on frequency and voltage when you aren't using it. If you don't have good cooling, that might push your system to its limits.
I appreciate your reply because when we look at so many posts and guides, it's easy to just give up. If someone else asks the same question, I will add more details here. My BIOS settings are like this: I turned on Precision Boost Overdrive in the BIOS by following these steps. In Peripherals, go to AMD CBS, then XFR Enhancement, click Accepted, and make sure Precision Boost Overdrive is enabled. Now my speed goes up to a steady 4175 MHz while working hard without me needing to overclock anything extra.
Many people have learned about Ryzen and found that having Auto boost turned on works well, so you don't really need to worry about trying to force a higher clock speed manually (OC). Most chips can handle the same amount of power for all cores at one high frequency if they use their auto boost feature correctly. Some of the good points with a permanent OC include getting better performance across many cores and not worrying as much about temperature limits since you can keep temps under 65c or 62c, even when using high boost settings which usually stay within 80 degrees Celsius. The cutoff temperatures are around 90 to 95c. Voltages might be stable but you could also adjust them using features like LLC or by adding a small positive or negative offset. However, there are some downsides: if the OC level isn't high enough to match what Auto boost does on single cores, your single-core speed will drop slightly. Also, most of these chips run hotter than they used to before, so you need better cooling to keep them safe. The factory cooler usually isn't strong enough to help much with a real OC. That being said, many people feel Ryzen can be a bit jittery or unstable when it's not doing anything, but it actually reacts fast and boosts cores quickly for simple tasks like opening an app, which means you won't notice any lag.
Thank you so much for this interesting info. Speaking about CPU MHz I have another, maybe stupid, question: Why the CPU frequency decreases when I start a heavy process? For example: IDLE 4175-4200 MHz GAME 4075-4100 MHz Is it normal? Why is not the opposite with a higher frequency during a heavy process? Obviously I still have all the same settings I already wrote about.
One reason could be that some games don't need a lot of computer processing power or another thing is the temperature. When your computer works too hard on a game, it uses more electricity which makes the heat go up. If the heat gets too high at 62-65 degrees Celsius while using PBO and 70s with manual settings, the system will slow down to protect itself.
One reason is because of how much power and heat PBO allows before things break down. The system just won't let every core go higher when there is too much work to do. I have a 3700X with an all-core set to 4.3ghz in the manual overclock mode. But if I turn on Maxed out PBO, all cores only bounce between 4.2 and 4.32ghz depending on what game you run, and hit as high as 4.12ghz when doing heavy tasks. For my needs, forcing a fixed frequency was better because it kept temps lower and helped frame times in some games even though PBO showed higher boost clocks. So whether to use a manual OC or PBO depends on your situation. And you have to be okay if you can get a good all-core frequency at the start.
I found my ASUS x470 with Auto OC at level 2 and PB turned on, so the voltages were going up to 1.57 volts while gaming, which was too high for me even after crashing a couple times. With Manual OC set to stable 4.275ghz, I get steady voltages between 1.4125 and 1.4187 volts and temps are much more consistent. It still drops the clocks when idle but temps stay max at 58c while gaming and drop to 27-35c when idle with the Ryzen jump (don't we all love explaining this to Intel fans!!!). So that is what works for me, but every system is different and a b450 might not handle stable all cores overing 4.2ghz.
That was also my view too, and it made sense because I used ThrottleStop for a while. Thanks so much for explaining your situation. I really appreciate how important the temps are since 2700X and other CPUs usually get hot spikes. I tried to fix this but didn't care enough at first until I saw that running games or doing heavy work makes the temps drop back down to normal levels. So, I prefer to overclock only when I make a profit like more than 15% to 20%. Maybe I don't get it... What do you mean by "Auto OC lvl2"? Is there another feature I missed? Catching up, here are some questions for you: Have you overclocked using a stable or dynamic voltage (in the BIOS)? If I wanted to try overclocking myself, what would you suggest me to follow? Some of my friends gave me 3D Marks for testing? Is it good to check that? Thanks so much, I'm learning tons and growing better. It's really hard to find people who want to share their stories or ideas like you. Maybe it looks easy but trust me... it isn't!