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9950X features high-speed memory with optimized timing specifications.

9950X features high-speed memory with optimized timing specifications.

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SFcoralsnake
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10-20-2023, 08:04 AM
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I’m assembling a system and initially considered a 7960x, but decided the PCI lanes on the 9950X would suffice. When checking the verified memory list for the X870e AI TOP board, only ECC options like 5600MT with specific timings were confirmed. Around 20% of my usage will be gaming, so I’m concerned whether speed and timing might become a limitation.
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SFcoralsnake
10-20-2023, 08:04 AM #1

I’m assembling a system and initially considered a 7960x, but decided the PCI lanes on the 9950X would suffice. When checking the verified memory list for the X870e AI TOP board, only ECC options like 5600MT with specific timings were confirmed. Around 20% of my usage will be gaming, so I’m concerned whether speed and timing might become a limitation.

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ivangutman
Junior Member
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10-20-2023, 08:27 AM
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I evaluated the memory performance tests using the 9950X. Let me know if the results are significant enough for you. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-...amd-zen-5/
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ivangutman
10-20-2023, 08:27 AM #2

I evaluated the memory performance tests using the 9950X. Let me know if the results are significant enough for you. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-...amd-zen-5/

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KriGen39
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10-20-2023, 09:30 AM
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You're likely seeking maximum reliability with ECC modules. These tend to run slower than high-performance ones because of their standard speeds and timing settings. Anything that's overclocked like XMP/EXPO goes against stability, though they usually function properly. A quick thought: ECC support is mostly determined by the motherboard, which I hadn't found at the moment. I'll check Gigabyte next.
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KriGen39
10-20-2023, 09:30 AM #3

You're likely seeking maximum reliability with ECC modules. These tend to run slower than high-performance ones because of their standard speeds and timing settings. Anything that's overclocked like XMP/EXPO goes against stability, though they usually function properly. A quick thought: ECC support is mostly determined by the motherboard, which I hadn't found at the moment. I'll check Gigabyte next.

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zMadeus
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10-21-2023, 10:05 PM
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It seems the MB or memory controller might be the issue, especially with ECC memory in TRX50 systems. I tend to skip XMP and XPO for stability, but on my old 5900x I saw big differences—Fortnite felt smooth at 60 FPS when enabled, but lagged heavily when disabled.
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zMadeus
10-21-2023, 10:05 PM #4

It seems the MB or memory controller might be the issue, especially with ECC memory in TRX50 systems. I tend to skip XMP and XPO for stability, but on my old 5900x I saw big differences—Fortnite felt smooth at 60 FPS when enabled, but lagged heavily when disabled.

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MrsSupess
Junior Member
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10-22-2023, 07:00 AM
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It isn't that the MB or IMC that's the issue with getting fast ECC, it's the fact that no one makes unbuffered ECC with good XMP profiles that I'm aware of. There is the option of manually overclocking your own ECC kit assuming you get one from SK Hynix, since even the unbinned stuff they put in 5600 CL46 kits does do 6000 CL30 pretty reliably. Then you'd have the best of both worlds, the performance of an XMP kit with the error checking of the ECC kits. There isn't a reason that ECC kits can't have XMP/EXPO on them, it's just that they don't make them for unbuffered ECC for whatever reason. For registered ECC (what TRX50 uses), there is actually a few kits made, but they just don't exist on the unbuffered setups.
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MrsSupess
10-22-2023, 07:00 AM #5

It isn't that the MB or IMC that's the issue with getting fast ECC, it's the fact that no one makes unbuffered ECC with good XMP profiles that I'm aware of. There is the option of manually overclocking your own ECC kit assuming you get one from SK Hynix, since even the unbinned stuff they put in 5600 CL46 kits does do 6000 CL30 pretty reliably. Then you'd have the best of both worlds, the performance of an XMP kit with the error checking of the ECC kits. There isn't a reason that ECC kits can't have XMP/EXPO on them, it's just that they don't make them for unbuffered ECC for whatever reason. For registered ECC (what TRX50 uses), there is actually a few kits made, but they just don't exist on the unbuffered setups.

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ImEternity
Junior Member
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10-23-2023, 09:02 AM
#6
AM4 Zen was known for its slower RAM performance, which likely impacted overall speed. Higher-end cards would have fared better in this regard. DDR5-5600 offers solid speeds even at JEDEC standards, making it a strong choice unless you're playing at very low resolutions or settings.
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ImEternity
10-23-2023, 09:02 AM #6

AM4 Zen was known for its slower RAM performance, which likely impacted overall speed. Higher-end cards would have fared better in this regard. DDR5-5600 offers solid speeds even at JEDEC standards, making it a strong choice unless you're playing at very low resolutions or settings.

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westmountwild
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10-28-2023, 07:14 AM
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ECC wasn't widely available on mainstream consumer hardware for a while, and even today it remains rare. While some CPUs support it, without proper motherboard compatibility it offers little value. Most users won’t invest extra for ECC since it’s not common. Pushing over supported speeds for overclocking doesn’t really add much if you’re focused on stability. There might be a niche competitive market, but it’s unclear if there’s a pressing need. For moderate performance, XMP/EXPO kits usually work without major issues. In most cases, reliability is more important than peak speed. I’ve used a 6000C30 kit with my 7800X3D and it performed well. I’ve only experienced a couple of mysterious crashes in the past six months, possibly linked to recent hardware changes. No system is completely faultless. Prioritize stability over maximum performance.
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westmountwild
10-28-2023, 07:14 AM #7

ECC wasn't widely available on mainstream consumer hardware for a while, and even today it remains rare. While some CPUs support it, without proper motherboard compatibility it offers little value. Most users won’t invest extra for ECC since it’s not common. Pushing over supported speeds for overclocking doesn’t really add much if you’re focused on stability. There might be a niche competitive market, but it’s unclear if there’s a pressing need. For moderate performance, XMP/EXPO kits usually work without major issues. In most cases, reliability is more important than peak speed. I’ve used a 6000C30 kit with my 7800X3D and it performed well. I’ve only experienced a couple of mysterious crashes in the past six months, possibly linked to recent hardware changes. No system is completely faultless. Prioritize stability over maximum performance.

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Appeal7
Junior Member
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10-28-2023, 08:00 AM
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Generally aiming for near-stable performance is preferred in competitive environments, and ECC doesn't significantly hinder that goal. I believe XMP speeds with ECC offer advantages because they help fix any instability caused by higher speeds and tighter timing (provided you don’t face IMC problems). It might even be marginally better than non-ECC setups since stability testing becomes simpler—most systems should alert you if an error is corrected. The main drawback is the increased cost, making it less valuable for most workstation applications beyond a few specialized cases.
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Appeal7
10-28-2023, 08:00 AM #8

Generally aiming for near-stable performance is preferred in competitive environments, and ECC doesn't significantly hinder that goal. I believe XMP speeds with ECC offer advantages because they help fix any instability caused by higher speeds and tighter timing (provided you don’t face IMC problems). It might even be marginally better than non-ECC setups since stability testing becomes simpler—most systems should alert you if an error is corrected. The main drawback is the increased cost, making it less valuable for most workstation applications beyond a few specialized cases.

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Froyo_
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10-31-2023, 08:57 AM
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I considered ECC as a path toward greater stability. However, adding offsets without ECC usually slows things down if RAM speeds and timing match standard configurations. Besides the price, I still believe the main issue is insufficient explicit support for mobile processors, limiting our ability to test it thoroughly. The OP about MBO card mentioned isn’t clearly supported on the product page, so we can't be sure it fully enables ECC features. In the worst scenario, many boards might run ECC RAM without actually using its full capabilities.
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Froyo_
10-31-2023, 08:57 AM #9

I considered ECC as a path toward greater stability. However, adding offsets without ECC usually slows things down if RAM speeds and timing match standard configurations. Besides the price, I still believe the main issue is insufficient explicit support for mobile processors, limiting our ability to test it thoroughly. The OP about MBO card mentioned isn’t clearly supported on the product page, so we can't be sure it fully enables ECC features. In the worst scenario, many boards might run ECC RAM without actually using its full capabilities.