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546007
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09-03-2018, 07:29 PM
#21
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546007
09-03-2018, 07:29 PM #21

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ForeverPixel
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09-03-2018, 07:29 PM
#22
The chiplet concept mainly serves enterprise solutions. We observed similar patterns with Zen 5. Chiplet-based designs carry the server-level AVX-512 support, while consumer-grade APUs lack this feature. Regardless of speed, these chips are built for enterprise needs. It was only by chance that it became useful for gaming. If not, they likely wouldn’t have targeted consumers. For the consumer market, yes—it helped. I relied on socketed models to tell new APUs from upcoming non-socketed ones. Server CPUs may offer more channels, but bandwidth remains constrained by core count increases. The balance shifts only when you choose the least powerful configurations. Adding cache slightly alters this dynamic. Various workloads follow distinct usage patterns. My focus is on prime number calculations, which benefit from high bandwidth without needing massive capacity. It’s frustrating needing large-capacity chips for high bandwidth; a big cache would resolve that. I don’t believe anyone outside gaming saw it as broadly useful for consumers. The cache does assist in Epyc products, with different tiers involved.
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ForeverPixel
09-03-2018, 07:29 PM #22

The chiplet concept mainly serves enterprise solutions. We observed similar patterns with Zen 5. Chiplet-based designs carry the server-level AVX-512 support, while consumer-grade APUs lack this feature. Regardless of speed, these chips are built for enterprise needs. It was only by chance that it became useful for gaming. If not, they likely wouldn’t have targeted consumers. For the consumer market, yes—it helped. I relied on socketed models to tell new APUs from upcoming non-socketed ones. Server CPUs may offer more channels, but bandwidth remains constrained by core count increases. The balance shifts only when you choose the least powerful configurations. Adding cache slightly alters this dynamic. Various workloads follow distinct usage patterns. My focus is on prime number calculations, which benefit from high bandwidth without needing massive capacity. It’s frustrating needing large-capacity chips for high bandwidth; a big cache would resolve that. I don’t believe anyone outside gaming saw it as broadly useful for consumers. The cache does assist in Epyc products, with different tiers involved.

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JosPay12
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09-03-2018, 07:29 PM
#23
Could be useful for GPU folding... still uncertain.
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JosPay12
09-03-2018, 07:29 PM #23

Could be useful for GPU folding... still uncertain.

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JJAwesome8078
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09-03-2018, 07:29 PM
#24
AMD has also verified complete overclocking potential for Ryzen 9000 X-3D processors without requiring a particular high-end motherboard. This certainly puts pressure on Intel in the short term—especially for enthusiast gaming CPUs. However, I’m confident Intel will eventually return with a strong comeback, just like AMD did with Ryzen.
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JJAwesome8078
09-03-2018, 07:29 PM #24

AMD has also verified complete overclocking potential for Ryzen 9000 X-3D processors without requiring a particular high-end motherboard. This certainly puts pressure on Intel in the short term—especially for enthusiast gaming CPUs. However, I’m confident Intel will eventually return with a strong comeback, just like AMD did with Ryzen.

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Pjoppe
Junior Member
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09-03-2018, 07:29 PM
#25
Are you facing heating problems? If previous versions couldn't be pushed further because of temperature limits, perhaps it's time to address that issue? I'm not a specialist, but this is just guesswork. I'm really looking forward to reading the feedback once it's released ^^
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Pjoppe
09-03-2018, 07:29 PM #25

Are you facing heating problems? If previous versions couldn't be pushed further because of temperature limits, perhaps it's time to address that issue? I'm not a specialist, but this is just guesswork. I'm really looking forward to reading the feedback once it's released ^^

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